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Genzler Amplification Club

Sooooooo, sad times! The super inexpensive BA210 cabs I was drooling over were sold before I could unload my Mesa cab. BUT there is a BA12 really close to me for a reasonable price. Can someone do scribe the sonic differences between the 210 and 112, please? Is one 112 enough for a band?

depends on the head as well - driving one with a 350 I’m at about half volume - with my 800 - quarter volume. I prefer two cabs though for over all tone. If you have a louder band you may need to go another quarter turn!
 
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That's my other thought. A series 2 BA12 on top would probably make everything sound really good!

Here's the venue, although it stretches way behind where the picture was taken:

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I don't know where that venue is, but I can't imagine youd be doing a show there without a capable FOH and monitor system, in which case you really won't need much amp on stage. I've actually had some experiences on large stages/big venues where any significant stage volume from my amp is a hinderance since its firing from behind and clashing with the monitors in front or to the side.
 
My rig for Zeppelin tonight. The Acoustic I don’t own, guitar player owns it and works, but tonight is just a prop. Believe me, I’m much happier playing my 410-112 stack.

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The Bass Array cabinets are an absolute blessing in the live situation. I went from an outdoor patio to a very busy honky tonk to a small blues club and the BA410-3 V1 delivered fat bass tone everywhere. Heat and questionable power gave me a small heart attack when my Magellan 800’s power led stayed red and she didn’t fire up. I unplugged it from the outlet for a minute and it fired right up after that and kicked butt all night. There were guest bassists tonight so I got to hear the tone from every part of the bar and it was just lush sounding everywhere. I have one hundred percent confidence in using this BA410-3 in any live situation I may encounter with my trio. I don’t think it will run out of steam before it just hurts the ol ears.

Thanks Jeff for making my gigging super easy!
 
The Bass Array cabinets are an absolute blessing in the live situation. I went from an outdoor patio to a very busy honky tonk to a small blues club and the BA410-3 V1 delivered fat bass tone everywhere. Heat and questionable power gave me a small heart attack when my Magellan 800’s power led stayed red and she didn’t fire up. I unplugged it from the outlet for a minute and it fired right up after that and kicked butt all night. There were guest bassists tonight so I got to hear the tone from every part of the bar and it was just lush sounding everywhere. I have one hundred percent confidence in using this BA410-3 in any live situation I may encounter with my trio. I don’t think it will run out of steam before it just hurts the ol ears.

Thanks Jeff for making my gigging super easy!


Suggestion: I have one, and I know Joeykun (Joe Pettengill) runs one too. A Furman power conditioner. Designed specifically for shtuff like this.
The Greatest Bar in Boston (yaeh, that's the real name) is an old building with questionable wiring, my 'bars' on the Furman never hit 'green' there but my rig and pedalboard never hiccup.
There's a place in Maine where a heavy draw occasionally trips the breakers. Every time I'd hot the octaver the thing would trip. Last year it did it 5x in one show. The Furman saved the rig and pedalboard.

I have one of the MG800 rig and one for the EA iAMP Classic rig. There are plenty of pics on Joe's profile with his too. @Joeykun
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Here is my Magellan 350 and NC-115 doing some sub work this weekend.
Good to see one of the few NC-115T cabs shown in the wild holding down the low end. I'd really like to A/B the NC-115T with the Subway 115. Has anyone played both who could compare the two? I'm very familiar with and like the Faital 15PR400 driver used in the Subway, but prefer the taller shape and inset handles of the NC-115T and like the tone Nate Navarro gets in this demo.

 
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Good to see one of the few NC-115T cabs shown in the wild holding down the low end. I'd really like to A/B the NC-115T with the Subway 115. Has anyone played both who could compare the two? I'm very familiar with and like the Faital 15PR400 driver used in the Subway, but prefer the taller shape and inset handles of the NC-115T and like the tone Nate Navarro gets in the demo.
Nu Classic 115T - Genzler Amplification
I have never played through a subway cab in a live mix or anywhere outside of a music store. I have however tried the Genzler gear side-by-side with the subway series, although it wasn’t the new Nu Classic series cabs at the time. The only advice I can offer is that the tone and build quality will be top notch no matter which one you choose. For me, I prefer the size and shape of the Genzler cab from an ergonomic/logistical standpoint because the fit perfectly in my vehicle. Cabinet dimensions affect overall tone, so that’s something you will have to personally figure out for yourself. Aesthetically speaking, I only *slightly* prefer the mesh grille cloth to Mesa’s metal grille, however, the Mesa cabs look extremely clean as well (and may be more durable in the long run). I transport mine in my vehicle, so the size and shape of the box is more important to me then the grille cloth material, but if I were throwing them in a touring trailer with everyone’s gear, the opposite might be true. It’s worth pointing out that the Genzler cab covers are extremely heavy duty and durable, but they will add $100 to the purchase price. No bad choice here.
 
Survey says? I’m in love with the 15/210 combo. More than enough power on tap to shake the stage (if necessary) and the two tens add a little more punch.

Now take this with a very large grain of salt as I’m assessing these during a live festival setting with substantial PA support but I don’t think the 210 will do what you’re seeking, @PhishPhan22, as I’d characterize the difference between the 15 and the 210 as very similar in sound with the 210 voiced a little higher and the bloom delivering more quickly. The 10” punchiness is there. I don’t know if the crossover point with the arrays is the same between the 15 and the 210 but I didn’t notice anything different on the top end or overall tone between the two. It just adds a slightly quicker initial punch. But wow! I love the two of them paired. Quick. Deep. Clear.

I ran the DI off the Magellan 800 head again with the 4otF still set in first gear for a nice light breakup when I dig in and the FOH guy told me between our sets that he wished all bass players played setups that sounded as good as this. He said he didn’t have to do hardly anything on his end and he liked having the cabs fill in the space between the PA subs. Just amazing kit.
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So, from now on, I think I’m going to run the 15 for small gigs as I like the deep extension of that cab. And frankly it’s the quickest and punchiest 15 I’ve ever played. Big stages get the full treatment.

Ya know over an all these years later I still never made the move an I think my hard head is finally learning that if I just get like a Pre/Q maybe some dirt. Or preamp pedal the the 2 15” won’t be far off as I think.will
They be diff yes, sure will but like I’ve been wrecking my head lately. An I’m learning a poweful EQ with HPF and LPF can do a lot. An maybe I make the move on two 10s but I think I’ve been given to much tonal account for speaker size thinking just getting 10s will fix my cut issue an growl an maybe they will but I think maybe I should try the pedal route an Eq an then preamps or things like this to try until I’m more knowledgeable. I think I put far too much into speaker size. Dotn get me wrong. I know 2x15 is a lot for like a little 300 venue but I’m learning alot more about EQn hopefully I can fix it a little.
 
Suggestion: I have one, and I know Joeykun (Joe Pettengill) runs one too. A Furman power conditioner. Designed specifically for shtuff like this.
The Greatest Bar in Boston (yaeh, that's the real name) is an old building with questionable wiring, my 'bars' on the Furman never hit 'green' there but my rig and pedalboard never hiccup.
There's a place in Maine where a heavy draw occasionally trips the breakers. Every time I'd hot the octaver the thing would trip. Last year it did it 5x in one show. The Furman saved the rig and pedalboard.

I have one of the MG800 rig and one for the EA iAMP Classic rig. There are plenty of pics on Joe's profile with his too. @Joeykun View attachment 5135170 View attachment 5135171

The only Furman that can deal with over and under voltage and keep things really under control are the voltage regulator models. I used to use the AR-15 back in the day when running voltage sensitive Lexicon units in the mountain towns of Colorado. The current version is: Furman P-1800 AR Voltage Regulator / Power Conditioner The cheapest model available now is this one: Furman M-8X AR 15A Voltage Regulator

Most of the Furman boxes are glorified power strips, so make sure you get one that is going to do what you want.
 
Just got the Magellan 800. The 212T should be here Thursday. Does or has anyone run the Magellan 212T (31”X16”X19”) with the 12T-V (19.625”X14.5”X16”) on top? Website says they’re different widths & depths. I don’t think my OCD could handle the symmetrical difference. I’m hoping it’s a typo error & they’re the same width and depth.
 
Just got the Magellan 800. The 212T should be here Thursday. Does or has anyone run the Magellan 212T (31”X16”X19”) with the 12T-V (19.625”X14.5”X16”) on top? Website says they’re different widths & depths. I don’t think my OCD could handle the symmetrical difference. I’m hoping it’s a typo error & they’re the same width and depth.
Don't have a 12T-V, but recently running a 212T with a BA12-3-SLT is some kind of "magic". However, it fails the OCD test.

Just shut your eyes and enjoy :D
 

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