Get off my LAWN! "Grumpy Old Farts"

[alaskaleftybass]

Thanks Will. The M283fdw is at the top of my list. The lower cost Neverstop is interesting as well but I worry with the drum not being in the cartridge like many are. If it gets scratched it could be expensive to replace. Both are new to the market so the latest technology.

Will check out the other model mentioned.


HP Neverstop Laser MFP 1202W

The more expensive HP also does duplex printing, while the M283 doesn't. I've been OCD obsessing about whether I should get the 283 or the more expensive one since they both share the same cartridges. I'm almost convinced to spend the extra $120 because I do use duplexing and often scan double sided documents. Also, how often does someone buy a laser printer anyway?

I've had an HP All In One laser printer for around 10 years now, such that its "toolbox" of software functions is no longer supported by the Macintosh OS or HP, so I rely on the Mac's built-in capabilities. But it works fine, and back then it was only about $200 or so bucks. I'm stunned to see color LaserJet AIOs for so little now.

Agreed. I know just a half dozen years ago we were paying up to $1,200 for HP's that are slower than the ones today that Beans is looking at. Where they get you is the toner. And I think HP solved that by adding some sensing chip to detect if the cartridges aren't authentic HP. Luckily for me if I bought a set of color toners I wouldn't go through it for at least 3 years by my estimation.

P.S. Apple stuff is so smart. I had a MacBook for a short time and it automatically went out and sniffed out the wireless printer on our home network. Also would have found a networked hard drive attached to the wi fi router if we had one...

 

[Charlie Tango]

The more expensive HP also does duplex printing, while the M283 doesn't. I've been OCD obsessing about whether I should get the 283 or the more expensive one since they both share the same cartridges. I'm almost convinced to spend the extra $120 because I do use duplexing and often scan double sided documents. Also, how often does someone buy a laser printer anyway?



Agreed. I know just a half dozen years ago we were paying up to $1,200 for HP's that are slower than the ones today that Beans is looking at. Where they get you is the toner. And I think HP solved that by adding some sensing chip to detect if the cartridges aren't authentic HP. Luckily for me if I bought a set of color toners I wouldn't go through it for at least 3 years by my estimation.

P.S. Apple stuff is so smart. I had a MacBook for a short time and it automatically went out and sniffed out the wireless printer on our home network. Also would have found a networked hard drive attached to the wi fi router if we had one...

Having spent the last 13 years of my career in the IT shop, I can tell you that the "LEX" in "duplexer" is the same "LEX" as in "complexity," which it adds. In commercial use the duplexer mechanism can make for headaches for the users when it breaks, which makes headaches for the IT staff because they have to listen to the users whinge about their department printer being down for a day or two. We finally wised up and stopped buying printers with duplexers, which made our help desk phone ring less. I don't have any experience with one for in personal use, and I've been away from employment for over seven years, so it may be that it would be no issue at all. I think for 120 scoots, your situation might just make it worthwhile to check out.

 

[alaskaleftybass]

Having spent the last 13 years of my career in the IT shop, I can tell you that the "LEX" in "duplexer" is the same "LEX" as in "complexity," which it adds. In commercial use the duplexer mechanism can make for headaches for the users when it breaks, which makes headaches for the IT staff because they have to listen to the users whinge about their department printer being down for a day or two. We finally wised up and stopped buying printers with duplexers, which made our help desk phone ring less. I don't have any experience with one for in personal use, and I've been away from employment for over seven years, so it may be that it would be no issue at all. I think for 120 scoots, your situation might just make it worthwhile to check out.

Good words of experience, @Charlie Tango . Fortunately printers have become more robust especially in the duplexing area. I just bought a new HP for my office for personal use and the thing is a beast. It handles up to 50 pages of scanning and does it fast. I'm getting lazy in my old age-- I'm not sure I want to take 10 pages at home, scan them, then feed them back into the scanner glass (one at a time) and scan the second side. First world problems LOL!

 

[spiritbass]

Not even printing music notation?

Gone are the days of fun with printers and copper anti-static tinsel.


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I used to have these on the offset printing press that I've been operating for years. Doing fine without it for quite a while. The duplex function is quite manual (I flip the sheets end-for end for the second pass).

 

[beans-on-toast]

Good words of experience, @Charlie Tango . Fortunately printers have become more robust especially in the duplexing area. I just bought a new HP for my office for personal use and the thing is a beast. It handles up to 50 pages of scanning and does it fast. I'm getting lazy in my old age-- I'm not sure I want to take 10 pages at home, scan them, then feed them back into the scanner glass (one at a time) and scan the second side. First world problems LOL!

Sounds like you have specialized scanninng needs. I mostly scan printed invoices so I can have a digital copy, they come in all sizes and couldn't be done automatically. I wonder about the 600 dots per inch and 256 grays scanning resolution. Most of the time 300dpi/256 is enough but with my flatbed I sometimes use 2400dpi/millions of colors. But they may have a software that improves the quality.

 

[Charlie Tango]

Good words of experience, @Charlie Tango . Fortunately printers have become more robust especially in the duplexing area. I just bought a new HP for my office for personal use and the thing is a beast. It handles up to 50 pages of scanning and does it fast. I'm getting lazy in my old age-- I'm not sure I want to take 10 pages at home, scan them, then feed them back into the scanner glass (one at a time) and scan the second side. First world problems LOL!

Whoa, that's speedy. I don't *need* a printer, but performance like that makes the GAS needle twitch a little.

 

[Jeff Scott]

...millions of colors.

Try the microdot...............

 

[beans-on-toast]

Try the microdot...............

Those are so cool, infringing on double naught spy territory. Imagine a halftone image made up of microdots.

The HP printer that I’m looking at has 600 x 600dpi. They use something called ImageREt 3600 technology that varies the size of the dot and overlays CMY colors to produce the equivalent of 3600dpi. I’ll believe it when I see it but somehow I have my doubts.

 

[Jeff Scott]

I was referring to a different kind of microdot..............

 

[GwenOnBass]

I was referring to a different kind of microdot..............

 

[bobyoung53]

It's nice to see places reopening. On Sunday I passed by an A&W and noticed that they are open again for takeout. I thought, Oh Boy, onion rings! Went to the takeout window to place an order. The kid inside says, you can only place an order and pay via their A&W app. So I sayz, I don't have my phone, can't I just tell you what I want and pay with my tap card? Apparently not, there's a new commandment. Thou shalt use thy app.

Of course, now I grump at them and won't use their app out of spite. I wish that they had a virtual tip jar, I'd leave a few choice words.

That's ridiculous, they must have a web site you could send a few choice words to.

 

[bobyoung53]

I was referring to a different kind of microdot..............

We were talking about Owsley Stanley and his wares in the 60's thread today.

 

[mikeoso]

We were talking about Owsley Stanley and his wares in the 60's thread today.

where is this 60s thread?

 

[bobyoung53]

where is this 60s thread?

Bassists of the 60's

Bassists of the '60's Club.

 

[GonePlaid]

That's ridiculous, they must have a web site you could send a few choice words to.

Yes, but. Ya need an app to find the website

 

[BargeOn]

I Tired
There's a nap for that.

 

[GwenOnBass]

Yes, but. Ya need an app to find the website

Nothing perfect manners won't address. A handwritten, thoughtful note in your best hand always gets the attention of corporate.

 

[bobyoung53]

Nothing perfect manners won't address. A handwritten, thoughtful note in your best hand always gets the attention of corporate.

Somehow I don't think Beans was thinking along those lines though.

 

[GonePlaid]

Sitting at the PC(or wherever)with nothing to do? Google "idontworkherelady" and prepare to be amused/stunned.

 

[GwenOnBass]

We are not really certain how it is those beings whose Prime Directive is "Be as annoying as possible" were admitted to the Federation. Quarantine would be on the director's desk now for signing, but the Annoyers are insisting to speak with management.