It's nice to have dreams but that one is more than I'd want to pay. There are two Persian carpet stores that I walk by on the way to the grocery. There wouldn't be any problem spending that sort of coin there.
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Get off my LAWN! "Grumpy Old Farts"
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It's nice to have dreams but that one is more than I'd want to pay. There are two Persian carpet stores that I walk by on the way to the grocery. There wouldn't be any problem spending that sort of coin there.
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The feeling of freedom is to me is when all my belongings fit in my car.
"Trouble ahead trouble behind and you know that notion just crossed my mind"
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That's a big car. Not only would it hold all your belongings, but Odin's as well.
Especially these days...
It looks like I will be in the market for a new water heater soon. The one I have is natural gas and the pilot light has decided to go out, on occasion. I could replace the thermocouple and get a few months more out of it, probably, but I am getting too old and out of shape to be crawling around on the floor just to put off the inevitable. The tankless, "on demand" seem like a good option but they cost almost three times more than a conventional one. Does anyone have experience with them and are they worth the price difference? I know that I can do the labor removing/replacing the one I have but the tankless one would (I think) require some plumbing work which I thoroughly detest. Any suggestions?
I know this isn't the proper place for this but I didn't feel it deserved its own thread and I feel like there is enough accumulated experience here for some help/advice.
I know this isn't the proper place for this but I didn't feel it deserved its own thread and I feel like there is enough accumulated experience here for some help/advice.
Besides plumbing, keep in mind that they require eel-eck-triss-e-tee to operate. Traditional hot water tanks do not, something to think about during power outages for any extended periods of time.
Not only do they require electricity, but a lot of it. Pretty sure you will need a 220V service line pulled in.
Edit: Does a water heater need a dedicated circuit?
Electric water heaters require a 240-volt dedicated circuit, which serves only the water heater and no other appliances or devices. The circuit wiring typically includes a 30-amp double-pole breaker and 10-2 non-metallic (NM) or MC cable.
Edit: Does a water heater need a dedicated circuit?
Electric water heaters require a 240-volt dedicated circuit, which serves only the water heater and no other appliances or devices. The circuit wiring typically includes a 30-amp double-pole breaker and 10-2 non-metallic (NM) or MC cable.
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Rather than buy, is it possible to rent to own? Are there government grants for the unit related to energy savings?
You want gas over electricity, it heats faster. The down side is it is expensive to install. Long term, you'll save.
There is one issue that I've heard of, if the unit is in the basement and the tap is up a floor or two, water can be cold till it travels from the unit up to the tap. There is a fix where they recirculate water. The video provides a good summary.
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I'm on public water (no well pump) and genuinely appreciate the things I do not need to provide power for when the electricity goes out. A gas hot water heater and all gas cooking are just a few less things to worry about. At least where I live I don't believe there has been a single incident of "no gas" despite numerous power outages over the last 7 decades.
I meant to add that my motorhome, although bigger than a car, is our pod/bubble to escape our California fires and anything else that may come our way. And, here I thought I was only buying it for recreation
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Newer gas water heaters do not have a pilot. The new one we put in a few years ago has spark ignition. No battery changing or power required. It probably has a lithium-ion battery in the control box.
You might search around on home improvement forums for feedback on tankless.
Newer gas water heaters do not have a pilot. The new one we put in a few years ago has spark ignition. No battery changing or power required. It probably has a lithium-ion battery in the control box.
You might search around on home improvement forums for feedback on tankless.
Back on the RV side, it's a lot better than the old days when wind or setting up required matches or lighters to get the pilot light going. Now, piezo spark ignition covers the fridge, furnace and water heater automatically while I can sit and enjoy my wine
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All of the above are true. My Daughter and SIL wanted to replace a traditional water heater with a tankless. They bought the unit, without consulting me, and wanted me to connect it. They had 240 volts to the old unit, on a 30 amp breaker. They had 10 gauge wire to the box. After checking the specs, on the new tankless unit, I had to break the bad news, that the existing wiring, and breaker were not sufficient to carry the higher amperage needed for the tankless unit. After getting a quote from an electrician, to do the re-wiring, they returned the tankless, and went back to the standard water heater. I don't remember the exact amperage requirement, but it would have required a minimum of 8ga wiring, run approximately 100' to the unit, with 50 amp breaker, which their existing panel box could not accommodate without an upgrade. YMMV
They work off of milliamperes. No battery or other power source, just static electricity. Almost like phantom power.
Thanks for all the responses. After reading them and thinking about it I will be going with a water heater much like what I already have. I don't foresee any problems as long as the old one will drain. The last time I changed one (different house) the tank had so much rust and buildup in it it would not drain. After much wailing, cursing, and gnashing of teeth, I got it outside and installed the new one with no problems. I found a new one that is the right size and will be under $500. If I get three or more, I can save about $27 on each unit but I'm going to pass on that.
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If you will mark your calendar, and drain your new water heater at least twice a year (more if you have hard water) it will last longer, and be easier to replace when it's time. Just be sure to turn it off first, or you will burn out the heating elements.
Many manufacturers, offer lifetime warrantees now, check customer reviews, and go with the most reliable/best rated warranty. I have had mine almost 20 years and have had to replace both heating elements, but it cost me nothing out of pocket.
Man, you're good. Very creative mind, too.
Also, follow the instructions for changing the anode within the tank. This stops it from rusting internally. This should be done every 4 to 5 years.
It's a good idea to install the new tank on a plastic pan to contain any water if there's a small leak.
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