Get off my LAWN! "Grumpy Old Farts"

[ric426]

Wether you know it or not,.you may be on your way to become a Luthier.

I wish you the best!

Thanks, but I don't anticipate going pro with it. There are far more skills that I don't have than the ones I do have. I do my own refret jobs, etc., but I wouldn't want to do it on someone else prized instrument. It's just a retirement hobby and I found a long time ago that when you have to make money with a hobby it's not fun anymore. I've assembled quite a few basses over the years and made a couple from scratch, but wouldn't want to take orders for them. I make what I like.

 

[Al Kraft]

Thanks, but I don't anticipate going pro with it. There are far more skills that I don't have than the ones I do have. I do my own refret jobs, etc., but I wouldn't want to do it on someone else prized instrument. It's just a retirement hobby and I found a long time ago that when you have to make money with a hobby it's not fun anymore. I've assembled quite a few basses over the years and made a couple from scratch, but wouldn't want to take orders for them. I make what I like.

...just because you don't do something for money doesn't mean you're not a true professional at it...something your pictures clearly prove!

 

[BadExample]

Al, ever worked around Trojans? I worked side by side with the PAF's Trojan squadron on several occasions. I'm always on the lookout for footage, but it seems non-existential... However, in my last search, I ran across the most beautiful sideslip landing I've ever seen:



How sweet is that? Floats down like a balloon, and just the tiniest puff of smoke from the tires. I have never some across a photo of the T-28 in all it's glory as I recall seeing it in Cebu (Mactan Island) and Palawan in the Philippines. They had e-seats, break open canopies, and full loaded and ready Gatling guns on the wing stations. I have graphic memories if tools all over the deck, hours of trying to get one to run, then sputter, then finally start and take off and give us an acrobatic show to remember. Pilots had cocoa nuts for gonads.

 

[Al Kraft]

Al, ever worked around Trojans? I worked side by side with the PAF's Trojan squadron on several occasions. I'm always on the lookout for footage, but it seems non-existential... However, in my last search, I ran across the most beautiful sideslip landing I've ever seen:



How sweet is that? Floats down like a balloon, and just the tiniest puff of smoke from the tires. I have never some across a photo of the T-28 in all it's glory as I recall seeing it in Cebu (Mactan Island) and Palawan in the Philippines. They had e-seats, break open canopies, and full loaded and ready Gatling guns on the wing stations. I have graphic memories if tools all over the deck, hours of trying to get one to run, then sputter, then finally start and take off and give us an acrobatic show to remember. Pilots had cocoa nuts for gonads.

Never worked with those aircraft Jon, but it looks like a really sweet bird. Come to think of it, I'm pretty sure there is one on a pole doing gate guard duty at Joint Base Anacostia-Bolling...I was just there two weeks ago.

That video has some very impressive flying in what I take given the landing were some rather challenging wind conditions. I've seen good AV-8 and helo drivers that couldn't have made it down more gracefully, and certainly not in an aircraft that had all manually rigged flight controls. It sounded like a Wright 1820 radial engine (pretty distinctive even on a recording) which would have certainly given it more than decent performance and I'd imagine a top speed close to 300 Kts.

 

[BadExample]

Sweat birds IMO. 9 cyl radials... Amazing to watch. I'll have to see if I have pics worth scanning. They were used in Viet Nam, Cambodia and Louse pre US involvement. Official involvement that is. Really neat birds!

 

[Old P Bass Guy]

Thanks, but I don't anticipate going pro with it. There are far more skills that I don't have than the ones I do have. I do my own refret jobs, etc., but I wouldn't want to do it on someone else prized instrument. It's just a retirement hobby and I found a long time ago that when you have to make money with a hobby it's not fun anymore. I've assembled quite a few basses over the years and made a couple from scratch, but wouldn't want to take orders for them. I make what I like.

I totally understand.

 

[BadExample]

I totally understand.

Me too. If I try to make money doing something I enjoy, it seems to become a job and something I don't enjoy really fast. I'm wired to slave away at a regular job

 

[Ken Morgan]

what is wrong with you guys? All this talk of working with Trojans, and not one condom joke? Not one UCLA joke?

Jeez.. boring. I’ve been in graveyards that were more fun

 

[BadExample]

Not my fault brother Ken. I laid down the bait and no one grabbed it.

I'm off work today. I think I'll see if I can find some 1980's pics I took of (well used) Filipino Trojans to scan and post. You'll like those bro.

 

[Stumbo]

what is wrong with you guys? All this talk of working with Trojans, and not one condom joke? Not one UCLA joke?

Jeez.. boring. I’ve been in graveyards that were more fun

I condomn you for your impertinence! Graveyards aren't for GOF's(yet).

 

[Ken Morgan]

Pffft... I paid my dues, I feel,like I’ve been stiffed

 

[BadExample]

Bless you Ken. From your past posts, I have a butt feeling you've already been condom-ed. Maybe even condom-ed yourself.

 

[BadExample]

Oops, uh, gut feeling

 

[SoulReflection]

Not my fault brother Ken. I laid down the bait and no one grabbed it.

I'm off work today. I think I'll see if I can find some 1980's pics I took of (well used) Filipino Trojans to scan and post. You'll like those bro.

Some people with collect anything, and well used at that . Then they brag about it....

 

[BadExample]

Well used Trojans for @Ken Morgan

@Al Kraft These were all carrier launchable... of course only the NAVAIR version had tailhooks to make that not a one-way mission. Talked to my brother, and he was one class late to get to fly these babies in training.

 

[BadExample]

If anyone finds these photo's disturbing, please let me know. I can find another way to share them. I really don't want to turn anyone off from the GOF thread.

F-5's are historically significant, because they were the first aircraft developed exclusively to help poorer nations defend themselves. Thai RAF had buttloads of them, and maintained them to perfection.

Two seater to the left, a "trainer," was pretty rare back then, now probably few in service.

The Thai RAF also had them in cammy garb.

The Thai's had so many of these and kept them in perfect shape.

 

[ric426]

what is wrong with you guys? All this talk of working with Trojans, and not one condom joke?

I choose to think that we're much more mature and refined to stoop to that level.
But then, I'm fairly delusional.

 

[SoulReflection]

If anyone finds these photo's disturbing, please let me know. I can find another way to share them. I really don't want to turn anyone off from the GOF thread.

F-5's are historically significant, because they were the first aircraft developed exclusively to help poorer nations defend themselves. Thai RAF had buttloads of them, and maintained them to perfection.

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Two seater to the left, a "trainer," was pretty rare back then, now probably few in service.

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The Thai RAF also had them in cammy garb.

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The Thai's had so many of these and kept them in perfect shape.

I don't find them disturbing at all. In fact, I find the history very interesting, much more so than the thought of looking at your used Trojans .

 

[BadExample]

much more so than the thought of looking at your used Trojans .

Well, that is sort of a cloudy view!

 

[ric426]

If anyone finds these photo's disturbing, please let me know. I can find another way to share them. I really don't want to turn anyone off from the GOF thread.

I can only speak for myself, but I've loved planes and all things aviation related all my life, so I welcome this stuff. Plus I like hearing about significant parts of folks personal history with aviation. I don't recall the T-28 Trojan, so I enjoyed being (re)introduced to it. Can't wait until my grandson is old enough to appreciate a trip to the Air Force Museum at Wright-Patterson! I made sure I got to be the one to turn him onto planes and he's pretty enthusiastic about them. No matter what he's doing, if he hears a plane he drops everything to watch it.

My dad was a hydraulic engineer with Vickers and in the early '60's we moved to Switzerland for a couple years while he worked on some special project with a lot of time in England as well. I remember him telling me about VTOL aircraft and the things that were being developed for it. We found out much later that he was involved in the R&D for what was to become the Harrier. In the last part of his life he lived in Fond Du Lac WI, where the national aerobatics competitions were held a mile from his house and a short drive to Oshkosh where the EAA fly-in is held every year. I got to go to it with him a year or two before he died. I'm glad we got to share that.