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Get off my LAWN! "Grumpy Old Farts"
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Al Kraft
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- May 2, 2016
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I think it's a bit like any product area. People occasionally come up with supposedly better mousetraps and sometimes they catch on big time in the mainstream, other times they only get a cult following, and some things miss the mark with everyone. In the field of high tech almost all advances involve smaller and lighter for reasons that make sense economically and often in other ways like enabling more capability with less demand on weight, size, and/or power trade space when integrated into a system.
Generically speaking, "industrial, heavy iron" designs were great for their day and offered some inherent robustness and longevity that many new, lightweight technologies can't match. On the other hand, some of the new tech offers capabilities that eclipses the old in ways that would have been hard to swallow as believable science fiction when the old stuff was designed. I generally like the more industrial age designs because I grew up with that, but I tend to actually use more new tech stuff in my daily life.
Not sure what part of the equation breaks down...like you, I’ve always suspected the heavy iron played a role no transistors or algorithms can match (yet?). Perhaps the impurities of obsolescence are what I find most appealing? Ever so slight sag inherent with analog devices in general?
I’m sure others know scientific research showing this stuff...
I’m sure others know scientific research showing this stuff...
I hate waking up out front. Too danged much street noise to sleep in, then there's the kid cutting across MY LAWN who always says something dumb like, "Mommy, is that man dead?" Back yard is way more peaceful.
Exactly...wife asks me how I slept, I tell her “like a baby”
She says “I know. You cried have the night and pooped your pants twice”
She says “I know. You cried have the night and pooped your pants twice”
Ken, like your new avatar. It seems to imply you have never been used. Hmmmm, you sure that's accurate?
I'm thinking one tech changes, there are several factors in play. Customers desires yes. @agedhorse actually has pulled us a few times to find out what we want on an amp. Availability of parts for sure. Old stuff gets hard to find once the part has been discontinued. I've been involved in alternate parts sourcing with modification, and those engineering dollars go into the wind. Then, to increase or even maintain sales, or remain in the lead, you have to do something better than everyone else, or do something different and desirable. There are probably other factors as well. IMO in a cost sensitive company, nothing is going to be redesigned unless it has to or promises increased profit by less cost of goods sold or increased sales. The big dawgs have more leeway on spending money on something that may or may not make it to market.
Now, lets keep @alaskaleftybass in our hearts and minds today as he returns home. I expect we will hear from him soon. He might not be able to go back to work for a while, or set sail for IN, but I expect he'll be crossing the quarterdeck to board the GOF soon.
I'm thinking one tech changes, there are several factors in play. Customers desires yes. @agedhorse actually has pulled us a few times to find out what we want on an amp. Availability of parts for sure. Old stuff gets hard to find once the part has been discontinued. I've been involved in alternate parts sourcing with modification, and those engineering dollars go into the wind. Then, to increase or even maintain sales, or remain in the lead, you have to do something better than everyone else, or do something different and desirable. There are probably other factors as well. IMO in a cost sensitive company, nothing is going to be redesigned unless it has to or promises increased profit by less cost of goods sold or increased sales. The big dawgs have more leeway on spending money on something that may or may not make it to market.
Now, lets keep @alaskaleftybass in our hearts and minds today as he returns home. I expect we will hear from him soon. He might not be able to go back to work for a while, or set sail for IN, but I expect he'll be crossing the quarterdeck to board the GOF soon.
But did she let you... oh never mind, don't want to get us scolded again so soon. Well, I guess I don't want me scolded.
I'm fine with either Bro. SR... read it as you likeIs that 'scolded' or 'schooled'...my eyesight isn't what it used to be...
Guess I better check in this weekend. Yup , I'm all here. Went up to the family farm today for some recoil therapy. For the record , it takes four one gallon milk jugs to catch a hollowpoint. No further comment on that statement is allowed so keep it cool everyone. Probably won't be checking in next weekend. Gonna be a little busy. Gig Fri night , gig Sat. night and a rehearsal with my new band on Sunday to include the 20 or so new songs that I have had to learn for it. Got most of them down pretty good and I have next week to polish them up. First gig with them is next month. Oh yeah , gonna be trying out my new rig this weekend. PF 500 with my just recieved Ampeg 2 12. If it doesn't cut it I will have the trusty old 8 10e in the back of the truck. Don't think I'm going to need it though. Been playing around with the new 2 12 in the basement and it seems plenty loud.
Now for the really bad news. It looks like I'll be pulling the last tomatoes of the season off of my plants tomorrow. (Heavy sigh) No more home growns till next June.
Now for the really bad news. It looks like I'll be pulling the last tomatoes of the season off of my plants tomorrow. (Heavy sigh) No more home growns till next June.
I'm fine with either Bro. SR... read it as you like
Thanks, Bro BE and, please, get un-dirty from that toilet
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Good to see ya here, friend. I hear once winter catches on big plastic coffee "cans" left out to freeze water in them can be fun on the farm.Guess I better check in this weekend. Yup , I'm all here. Went up to the family farm today for some recoil therapy. For the record , it takes four one gallon milk jugs to catch a hollowpoint. No further comment on that statement is allowed so keep it cool everyone. Probably won't be checking in next weekend. Gonna be a little busy. Gig Fri night , gig Sat. night and a rehearsal with my new band on Sunday to include the 20 or so new songs that I have had to learn for it. Got most of them down pretty good and I have next week to polish them up. First gig with them is next month. Oh yeah , gonna be trying out my new rig this weekend. PF 500 with my just recieved Ampeg 2 12. If it doesn't cut it I will have the trusty old 8 10e in the back of the truck. Don't think I'm going to need it though. Been playing around with the new 2 12 in the basement and it seems plenty loud.
Now for the really bad news. It looks like I'll be pulling the last tomatoes of the season off of my plants tomorrow. (Heavy sigh) No more home growns till next June.
Alcohol kills germs. I was just in the tank... but I still feel dirty even after washing up. Dirty inside. So now that man-work is done, I'm cleaning up my insides as well.Thanks, Bro BE and, please, get un-dirty from that toilet
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When I was a kid, my dad's large collection of all colors of spray paint all sprung leaks. Coincidentally, the trees out back all turned psychedelic at the same time.
Yes sir! No drinking out of clear plastic bottles and no rubbing stuff from the brown glass bottles all over me!Be safe...don't get the two alcohols mixed up.
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