Playing a passive p bass? Yes? Usually a single slightly muddy sound. On my active eq baases, sound is clean.
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Getting big fat thud tones in big resonant rooms
- Thread starter JimmyM
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play like you want it really bad <== I need some further clarification / details on this please!!
Thanks,
Tim
Thanks,
Tim
Make up your own definition
Maybe it's a technique or hand placement thing, maybe it's just an attitude, maybe something else entirely...find out what works best for you.
Got it. So it's not necessarily a physical thing, but more of a state of mind. I can handle that.Make up your own definition
It can be that too, sure. If you think in those terms like that's your goal, you'll likely do other things that make it happen.
IMHO it's more about studying the problem and experimenting to figure out what works for you. Perhaps we can share what works for us, but there is no guarantee that our approach will work for you. So, basically you need to find your own unique path.
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everyone knows that those are optimally effective when coupled with photon torpedoes.......
Just heard from Steve, and he registered on here and is getting a feel for the place and posting, so it looks like we'll be hearing his own perspective about what he does in the NF. I'm very excited to have lured him on here since I'm a huge Lovin' Spoonful fan and have been since I was 5. So don't blow it for me
Yep, I can't do what Steve does so I cheat a little bit
But I think that how he does it on gear with tones you'd never think were suitable for that sound is something we can all learn from.
Well hey, he has told me he really likes my playing, but I think I probably used fuzz a little too much for his tastesYou might be surprised. How we perceive our own playing tends to deceive us a bit.
I use palm muting to shorten my clean tone note ring out with dead ground rounds and a pick.
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Just want to say this thread is really getting into some essential tone production concepts. Very good stuff discussed here so far. This kind of discussion only on TB (not available in stores). Thanks!
Both Herbie Flowers and Brian Odgers had a nice treble plectrum attack with a really warm resonance at one point. As far as I know, both were using jazz basses dialled all the way up, into either Watkins Dominator or a tiny custom made tube combo amp who's name escapes me, because the guy never put his name on his amps. They were almost always unnamed until closer to the end of his run.
Dee Murray also had a pretty good "click" when he wanted to.
None of those amps had tweeters, but many of them could produce a satisfying attack "crack", I'm sure helped by the metallic dust-caps on the speakers they used.
Dee Murray also had a pretty good "click" when he wanted to.
None of those amps had tweeters, but many of them could produce a satisfying attack "crack", I'm sure helped by the metallic dust-caps on the speakers they used.
It's 90% experience. I've been playing guitar since the early 80s, and bass for a few years. On guitar, I haven't been lost in a mix in decades. There practically no amp that's underpowered, and few bandmates that are too loud. Singing, I can make my voice into an overannunciating foghorn if I have to. On bass, I'm nowhere near that because I don't have as much control. The little technical tricks that make the mids jump out or mute the string in the middle of a riff without you even noticing are still a bit foreign to me on bass.
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You can tell by the shadow of the E string on the fretboard in this photo how high the action was on Jamerson's bass. Youch!
Glad to hear Steve Boone is still active. He was great on the Lovin' Spoonful's albums. He and Joe Butler worked well together.
About 12 years ago, I recorded a three song EP with my brother (singer/songwriter), live in studio. It was a pretty famous studio, belonging to Swedish band Soundtrack of Our Lives, so lots of old/expensive gear.
Anyway. Instead of recording with my own bass, my very brand conscious brother insisted I record with the studio's old Fender Jazz bass, which was in such a poor state that they'd literally duck taped over the frets from the neck joint and up. When I asked them why, they said "those frets don't sound good anyway", and nobody cared enough to have it set up, give it a fret level or new strings.
The interesting thing is, you can still hear it is me playing on the recording. My style, touch and timing very much shined through the fact that I was playing a bass I wasn't comfortable with.
Anyway. Instead of recording with my own bass, my very brand conscious brother insisted I record with the studio's old Fender Jazz bass, which was in such a poor state that they'd literally duck taped over the frets from the neck joint and up. When I asked them why, they said "those frets don't sound good anyway", and nobody cared enough to have it set up, give it a fret level or new strings.
The interesting thing is, you can still hear it is me playing on the recording. My style, touch and timing very much shined through the fact that I was playing a bass I wasn't comfortable with.
Hi Jimmy 
It is easier to send a flat pre signal to the board and to blame the sound guy when the result is bad!
I' ve seen that go wrong so many times. And it was rarely the sound guy 's fault!
Two guitarist 's with their bedroom sounds + a keyborder who
uses the fattest sounds he has with a heavy left hand… and of course the drums aren' t tuned!
Add a flat D.I. bass signal and wait for the miracle to happen…
I think I posted this before, but I am too lazy to search.
Nobody ever asked a guitarist to plug his guitar into a D.I. box and to give a flat and dry signal to the board
and just let the sound tech do the job.
Nobody ever asked a keyboarder to use only one sound for the full gig.
Why not? That' s obvious. Because it is wrong! Guitarists and keyboarders are responsible for their sounds.
So are we (bassists)! IMO
Why should we delegate our responsibilities to the sound tech? Let them do our job?
Let them play producers?
No way!
greetings
Wise
It is easier to send a flat pre signal to the board and to blame the sound guy when the result is bad!
I' ve seen that go wrong so many times. And it was rarely the sound guy 's fault!
Two guitarist 's with their bedroom sounds + a keyborder who
uses the fattest sounds he has with a heavy left hand… and of course the drums aren' t tuned!
Add a flat D.I. bass signal and wait for the miracle to happen…
I think I posted this before, but I am too lazy to search.
Nobody ever asked a guitarist to plug his guitar into a D.I. box and to give a flat and dry signal to the board
and just let the sound tech do the job.
Nobody ever asked a keyboarder to use only one sound for the full gig.
Why not? That' s obvious. Because it is wrong! Guitarists and keyboarders are responsible for their sounds.
So are we (bassists)! IMO
Why should we delegate our responsibilities to the sound tech? Let them do our job?
Let them play producers?
No way!
greetings
Wise
