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Gibson Apparently In Trouble.

Misquotation: “Reports of my death have been greatly exaggerated”
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The expression derives from the popular form of a longer statement by the American writer, Mark Twain, which appeared in the New York Journal of 2 June 1897: ‘The report of my death was an exaggeration’. The correction was occasioned by newspaper accounts of Twain’s being ill or dead. At the time, Twain’s cousin James Ross Clemens was seriously ill in London, and appears that some reports confused him with Samuel Langhorne Clemens (Mark Twain).
 
I've never been a fan of Gibson, aside from their Acoustics and a few obscure guitars that never made much traction in the market, but this article is pretty much ridiculous. Especially the thing about turning people away because you cant replace the pickups because of the circuit board. Any tech worth his salt should be able to do that easily, even if the leads were soldered directly to the board. Same goes with the capacitors. Replacing the circuit board with a more traditional set up is no big deal either, and shouldn't cost more than about 20 bucks.

This is nothing but a slam article against Gibson, it should be taken with a grain of salt.
 
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I will also share a personal experience with Gibson which put me off pretty badly.

I acquired a used Tobias Growler and it was missing the truss rod cover that attaches at the heel of the neck.

I called Gibson and after an inordinately long amount of time on hold, I got to a customer service rep who was completely nasty. Acted as though he was bothered I called. Went something like this:

Me: Hi I am looking for the TR cover to a Gibson made Tobias Growler. Can you help me.

Gibson Rep: No you have to call an Epiphone dealer.

Me: Well thanks but I just spoke with Guitar Center who sold me the bass and they hadn't a clue about getting the part so I called you.

Gibson Rep: Well you have to call them.

Me: Well could you please tell me what the part number is? I tried an internet search and found nothing. And they don't have any idea about where to look and what to look for.

Gibson Rep: [Exhales a smug bothered laugh and then curtly replies]: Sure. Hold on.

I was then on hold for 10 minutes and eventually gave up.

I hear stories like this all the time. It is not uncommon for downtrodden employees suffering emotional abuse at work to become passive aggressive like this. It is only human. While I was annoyed that this guy treated me as if he couldn't be bothered, it actually upset me more to experience first hand just what everyone has been talking about in terms of the environment over there.

Add to that, everything I read and hear through friends who are in the MI business suggests that people much prefer older Gibsons. As it is the used guitar market accounts for the same dollar volume as the new guitar market. Now assuming most of that gear is non vintage and is sold for less than the street price of a new piece of gear that means that more used guitars are selling every year than new ones. Thank about that for a second.

Even Rome fell. Gibson buyers are enthusiasts and many including some of my close friends are aficionados which means that they have high standards. If Gibson isn't meeting them and listening to the horrible things their customers are saying about their guitars, they have real problems. They may not go out of business but they are only hurting themselves.
 
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I can't say I've ever been a fan of any of their basses, but I think 90% of the stoner/doom bands I listen to use Gibson guitars. Now whether or not they are playing new ones or old ones is up for debate. They really have their own tone. If I was in the market for a guitar I'd look for a used LP Studio.
 
Henry has a mental illness. Read here. Very common in business sadly. Seen it many times.

Narcissistic personality disorder - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

"Very common in business sadly. Seen it many times"... Really? The article even says it's 1% of the population.

I've interacted with a bunch of people who are basically autonomous and functioning at the top of their particular game, and while a lot of them can be a pain, this Wkipedia article paints a caricature of a cartoon-being that I've never encountered. Can you cite any examples of this "Very common" business person?
 
Misquotation: “Reports of my death have been greatly exaggerated”
tumblr_inline_mlcn8rlpnS1qz4rgp.jpg


The expression derives from the popular form of a longer statement by the American writer, Mark Twain, which appeared in the New York Journal of 2 June 1897: ‘The report of my death was an exaggeration’. The correction was occasioned by newspaper accounts of Twain’s being ill or dead. At the time, Twain’s cousin James Ross Clemens was seriously ill in London, and appears that some reports confused him with Samuel Langhorne Clemens (Mark Twain).
Reminds me of this one:
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"Seen it many times"... Really? The article even says it's 1% of the population.

I've interacted with a bunch of people who are basically autonomous and functioning at the top of their particular game, and while a lot of them can be a pain, this Wkipedia article paints a caricature of a cartoon-being that I've never encountered. Can you cite any examples of this person?

Ok a few things in response to your comments.

First if you read closely the article also says that it is much more common in males which would suggest off the bat that more than 1% of males have it and less than 1% of females have it assuming an evenly distributed male/female population.

Second, there are many more males in the very highest ranking roles than females. I am sorry to say that and I promise I am not saying this to be un-PC but overall it is true.

Third, I have spoken with shrinks about it who tend to observe that some of the grandiose behavior presented with NPD can be perceived as "swagger" and rewarded in business. Do some google searches and you can find some compelling articles.

So the concentration of these types in the executive suite is more common than you would think.

People tend to be skeptical because this is called a "personality disorder" and most if not all of these people are exceptionally high functioning. But if you think about it in the simplest terms, an adult who regularly demonstrates emotional volatility has some sort of a problem. Indeed this is considered to share the spectrum with Borderline Personality Disorder which is much more widely recognized by the public but also harder for people to identify in their everyday lives.

As for my experience I prefer not to share. I haven't a clever screen name that hides my identity.

The article I posted simply describes all of the ways it presents. It doesn't mean that everyone presents all the same ways and there are varying degrees of severity but there are definitely patterns. Plus there is plenty for you to read that could give a much more concise or detailed explanation than I could, if you care to read more about this.
 
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I had a pointy haired boss a couple times. Is being a pointy haired boss a personality disorder? Just asking...

As far as Gibson guitars and bass guitars, I gravitate back to them over time for some reason. I even like the 2013 EB I picked up second hand very much. It's got some questionable aesthetic and finish choices on it, but it plays well, sounds good, and feels good in my hands. The fret ends could use a polish, but that's about it as far as playability. It doesn't have any kind of automatic tuners. Those would be a deal breaker, so if I want another Thunderbird one of these days, it will be an older one. Actually, that goes for any Gibson or anything else. Automatic tuning is the answer to a question nobody asked. Henry may or may not be the problem, but my guess is that Gibson will survive him.

Gibson, Fender, and all the rest may not survive changing tastes in musical instruments over the next 20 to 50 years, though.
 
Ok a few things in response to your comments.

First if you read closely the article...

As for my experience I prefer not to share. I haven't a clever screen name that hides my identity....

Okay, if you say so.

"Very common in business sadly. Seen it many times..." is a pretty broad, bold, and indicting statement not to be willing to back up with anything but nebulous and nameless anecdotes however.

I actually have a BA in Psychology. Not that it proves anything or makes me very smart.
 
About 8 years ago I worked for a Gibson Acoustic Dealer in Berkeley, CA (The Fifth String).

My pals who owned the joint were pushed around by Gibson more than any other retailer they carried and they were forced to layout huge amounts of cash to purchase ridiculously high priced instruments just to be a certified Gibson Acoustic Dealer... Many didn't sell for years. Also, Gibson would not permit this shop or any of it's Original Acoustic Instrument (OAI) Dealers to publically publish prices for any of these guitars, mandolins, banjos or dobros. This same set of conditions/restrictions was placed upon Elderly Instruments, Mandolin Brothers, FQMS, Janet Davis and a few other notable national dealers.

I don't think it was Gibson's doing that my pals were forced to close their store - but the Gibson issue was a contributing factor.
 
One other thought comes to mind:

When I worked for that Berkeley Guitar Store I was asked to travel to Anaheim to go to NAMM and make purchases of instruments from Saga, Martin and Gibson. At the time I was a web developer who would do inventory control, floor and web based guitar sales for this instrument retailer in Berkeley. Not a very high ranking reality and the pay was not enough to cover my crazy SF Mortgage.

Long story short, I wound up at an offsite Gibson Dinner where they feted there Original Acoustic Instrument Dealers. People who attended included Henry J & Big Joe of Gibson, Stan Jay of Mandolin Bros, Stan Werbin of Elderly and several other important American dealers.

Since I was so low ranking in the midst of all these muckety-mucks at some point during the dinner I openly stated that the Gibson Pricing strategy was ridiculous. From not allowing dealers to publish pricing to just asking crazy and unrealistic prices for Gibson products. (Their mandolins and banjos run from about 8 to 25 grand.) I also said that everyone I know in the Bay Area was running away from anything they madee other than vintage stuff.

Finally I told the room - and directed my spiel to Henry J - this Joke:
Q: What's the best kind of pickup to put on a Gibson Banjo?
A: An F150....

(At the time that was a fresh joke nobody had heard before...)