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GK MB 200: Part Two

I'm thinking about getting rid of my Yamaha BBT500H and getting an MB200.

I'd be running it through my LDS 3-way 1x12", which is an 8 ohm cab (I always had dreams of adding another, but haven't needed to yet).

The BBT puts out 250 watts at 8ohms, and I've never had problems having enough volume. I'm concerned that the MB200 with 140 watts @ 8 ohms would be way underpowered.

Any thoughts?
 
TheEmptyCell said:
I'm thinking about getting rid of my Yamaha BBT500H and getting an MB200.

I'd be running it through my LDS 3-way 1x12", which is an 8 ohm cab (I always had dreams of adding another, but haven't needed to yet).

The BBT puts out 250 watts at 8ohms, and I've never had problems having enough volume. I'm concerned that the MB200 with 140 watts @ 8 ohms would be way underpowered.

Any thoughts?

From what I've read those LDS cabs are pretty almost fearful efficient you'd probably be ok.
 
Not too impressed with the customer service/warranty stuff...

I e-mailed 11 days ago & received "The tech has received it and is working on it right now." I e-mailed 2 days ago and got "for status update call this number & extension", so I called today and tech said, "they haven't looked at it yet, but will put it on top of the pile."

Here I am a month later with no amp. I kinda wish I would have just sent it back & paid the restock fee now... :crying:
 
Do you run them in series or parallel?

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They certainly sound good when they are not buzzing/hissing (mine seems to be behaving!)

140W in to 8 ohms or 200W in to 4 Ohms. That 200W in to a speaker which is highly efficient (maybe 103 dB/W as a pair of drivers) is enough for most people. You need a generous cab volume so you don't need to crank up the low end and plenty of cone area for output. It counts more than pure watts.

If you want big sound from the smaller lower efficiency speaker though, you may hit the watts limit of the amp easily. Use it with a BFM horn or multi HO style driver array and you should be ok!
 
The MB200 has now become my main amp. I've used it on 3 gigs with 3 different bands and in countless rehearsals. I've run it through my Avatar TB153, Bergantino AE112, SWR 2x10 and Eden 1x15. I've never run the amp past about 11:00 on the dial and usually run the EQ at noon. I'm loving the tone and the fact that this amp fits in my gigbag. Has to be the best value in bass gear at the moment.
 
The MB200 has now become my main amp. I've used it on 3 gigs with 3 different bands and in countless rehearsals. I've run it through my Avatar TB153, Bergantino AE112, SWR 2x10 and Eden 1x15. I've never run the amp past about 11:00 on the dial and usually run the EQ at noon. I'm loving the tone and the fact that this amp fits in my gigbag. Has to be the best value in bass gear at the moment.

+1 agreed. It is a good value product (unless you are one of the unlucky ones - have faith people - there are good ones out there!)

Thinking of trying it with a twin 3012HO cab at gigs using hybrid loading. I think it would be enough.
 
Hi, all. In post #958 of the old thread (and a few that follow it). I mentioned some problems I was having with my new MB200. Worst was the D.I. It was unusably noisy -- not like "bad D.I." noisy, but the worst, loudest single-coil hum you've ever heard. Totally unusable live, let alone for any kind of recording. Soundmen wouldn't touch the D.I. This was pre-EQ and post-EQ. Made no difference. The amp was a little noisier than I thought it should be through a cab as well -- not unusable by any means, just kind of hissy. I just figured it was a hissy amp, but people here seemed to think that was out of the ordinary, too.

So, I sent it to GK and requested a replacement. Waited almost a month, then got it back one day. According to the paper that came with it, the following work was done: Replaced one resistor.

I was going to a jam that night and took the MB200 along (same club I tried it at before). It was noisier through the cab if anything (enough to bug me), but the sound guy said he could make do with the signal from the D.I. When I got home, I tried using the amp as a front-end for a recording and got the same, horrible, unusably buzzy sound. I tried three other heads with the same cables and running from the same outlet and got clean, usable signals from all. I shelved the GK in disgust and hadn't used it again until tonight. (I was busy with numerous projects at work, so I wasn't playing out much, and I'd just picked up a Mesa Walkabout that was getting most of my play time/attention.)

So, tonight, I try it as a front end for recording and... the signal is pretty clean. Play it through a cab -- a little hissy like before, but certainly usable. Then I try the D.I. post-EQ (with all knobs set flat) and the signal drops dramatically -- doesn't even show up on the level meter. I mess around and find that the GAIN knob (which is also the master volume on this little amp) is affecting the D.I. level. There's barely any signal, unless the thing is CRANKED, and even then it's substantially less than the pre-EQ level. I tried with a speaker hooked up and without, and repeated it several times to be sure. (I also made sure I wasn't confusing the pre/post EQ positions of the switch.)

Tell me this isn't supposed to be the case! The D.I. on the Walkabout is affected by the Master Volume, but I expect this, and it's supposed to be a unique case. None of my other amps are this way, and it's not a desirable feature for playing live or recording at home!

I'm about to write GK again, ship the amp back again, but want to be sure I'm not crazy first. I'm glad (sort of -- I'd have liked the problem to manifest itself for the GK techs) that the signal has magically cleaned itself up, but things still seem backwards, and I'm not confident playing the thing out.

Thoughts? Suggestions? If the warranty's one year, then I've got just over a month left to straighten it out!
 
Email [email protected] and CC [email protected] about your troubled amp. Include the whole story and troubles since getting it back. The DI level should be a little hotter post-EQ if anything. Jason is the Lead Tech and Brian is Artist Relations. :)

Thank you. Brian is the guy who replied to my initial email (to "[email protected]") but I will take your suggestion to email Jason as well and include my most recent experiences with the amp.
 
Emailed Jason, cc'ed Brian. Basically quoted what I posted above, and pointed them to this thread. I also mentioned that there's a lot that I like about the amp otherwise, and would love to use it as a backup/practice/small-gig/basic preamp if I could have confidence in its functioning.
 
Good work. RAG here on TB is the last resort (doubt you will need to PM him) . Production just moved back to the US plant for all amps and cabs after the end of last year. Things are getting settled down some in California, so I have little doubt the good people at G-K will get you sorted out. :)
 
The MB200 has now become my main amp. I've used it on 3 gigs with 3 different bands and in countless rehearsals. I've run it through my Avatar TB153, Bergantino AE112, SWR 2x10 and Eden 1x15. I've never run the amp past about 11:00 on the dial and usually run the EQ at noon. I'm loving the tone and the fact that this amp fits in my gigbag. Has to be the best value in bass gear at the moment.

Would you please brief me on how it sounds through your AE112?
 
Good work. RAG here on TB is the last resort (doubt you will need to PM him) . Production just moved back to the US plant for all amps and cabs after the end of last year. Things are getting settled down some in California, so I have little doubt the good people at G-K will get you sorted out. :)

Being able to get an American made amp (like my Genz and Mesa) would feel good. Not that there's anything wrong with stuff made elsewhere (love my Japanese P/J, and some of my favorite people are imports!), but it'd be cool.