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Global Warming - It's Our Fault

#181
Once again I post this quote. Nobody here would even consider that the earth is a ball of toxic crud belching filth and poisons onto and into itself.

Of what consequence would human activity be if tomorrow 100 new and many dormant volcanoes burst forth in a massive event?

"Thus, water emerging from the hottest parts of some hydrothermal vents can be a supercritical fluid, possessing physical properties between those of a gas and those of a liquid.[2][3] Besides being superheated, the water is also extremely acidic, often having a pH value as low as 2.8 – approximately that of vinegar.": http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydrothermal_vent[/QUOTE]

What if these thermal vents doubled tomorrow as result of a tectonic event?
 
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#183
Floyd Eye said:
By the way, we have been fracking since the 40s.;)
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True. That's when the technology was first developed.

However, with so much easily-accessible oil at that time there wasn't much economic incentive to do it on more than pilot-scale projects.

Now, with current oil prices around $100/barrel, there is much economic incentive to do fracking on a much larger scale and in locations that were previously uneconomical to drill.

Interestingly, fracking has been linked to increased seismic activity.
 
#184
slobake said:
There are concerns about possible contamination by hydraulic fracturing fluid both as it is injected under high pressure into the ground and as it returns to the surface To mitigate the impact of hydraulic fracturing to groundwater, the well and ideally the shale formation itself should remain hydraulically isolated from other geological formations, especially freshwater aquifers. In 2009 state regulators from at least a dozen states have also stated that they have seen no evidence of the hydraulic fracturing process polluting drinking water. In May 2011, former U.S. EPA administrator Lisa Jackson (appointed by President Barack Obama) has said on at least two occasions that there is either no proven case of direct contamination by the hydraulic fracturing process, or that the EPA has never made a definitive determination of such contamination. By August 2011 there were at least 36 cases of suspected groundwater contamination due to hydraulic fracturing in the United States. In more recent congressional testimony in April 2013, Dr. Robin Ikeda, Deputy Director of Noncommunicable Diseases, Injury and Environmental Health at the CDC listed several sites where EPA had documented contamination.[In several cases EPA has determined that hydraulic fracturing was likely the source of the contamination.
Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydraulic_fracturing
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There have been a few cases where negligence has caused spills of fracking fluid being transported FROM a frack site. Not a single documented case of a well or a body of ground water being contaminated by fracking. Not a single one dude, believe me, natural gas is what pays my bills, I am up on this stuff.

There was one guy who famously took video of the water from his faucet catching fire. He of course was some sort of activist and there is also video of him and about 20 other activists sitting around his house when he received the letter from the EPA stating that his well was perfectly fine and had been temporarily contaminated by a pocket of naturally occurring methane gas. This ass threw a fit like a little girl.


Like I said earlier, there has been fracking in the US since as early as the teens and it has been a regular practice since the 40s and there is not a single documented case where fracking has been proven to be the cause of a contaminated well or water table. This is a manufactured crisis by people with an agenda, period.
 
#185
NWB said:
True. That's when the technology was first developed.

However, with so much easily-accessible oil at that time there wasn't much economic incentive to do it on more than pilot-scale projects.

Now, with current oil prices around $100/barrel, there is much economic incentive to do fracking on a much larger scale and in locations that were previously uneconomical to drill.

Interestingly, fracking has been linked to increased seismic activity.
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Linked by whom and where is the proof? This is pure BS dreamed up by agenda driven pyschos who will not be happy until all viable sources of energy are unatainable by everyday people.
 
#190
Floyd Eye said:
There have been a few cases where negligence has caused spills of fracking fluid being transported FROM a frack site. Not a single documented case of a well or a body of ground water being contaminated by fracking. Not a single one dude, believe me, natural gas is what pays my bills, I am up on this stuff.
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Are you saying that you don't trust the CDC or are you saying the the contamanation they talk about was not caused by a leak?
 
#193
slobake said:
Are you saying that you don't trust the CDC or are you saying the the contamanation they talk about was not caused by a leak?
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Well since you mention it, I don't trust them, but more to the point, I would like you to show me where they have proved one single case of it. Or linked any evidence whatsoever other than speculation on their part.

By the way, the CDC lobbied to have gun violence listed as an epidemic. ;)
 
#196
NWB said:
The Ohio State Geological Survey and the US Geological Survey. Not completely proven as of yet, but there has been a strong correlation between fracking activities and seismic activity in the state of Ohio.

I guess the geologists have an environmental agenda too.
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Depends. As always, follow the money.

Link me a source please.

( I am aware of what you are referring to by the way and I fully understand that you cannot actually link a source. lol)
 
#200
jazzy grille said:
It's pretty simple.

Higher CO2 levels in the air has been repeatedly proven to increase ambient air temps.

Fossil fuels are essentially carbon that is trapped underground. Every time we pull it out of the ground and burn it the carbon is released back into the atmosphere. As a civilization we are carbon positive, even counting in vegetative consumption of carbon emissions.

Change will be hard. Old money beats new money every time.
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With every possible respect anything that involves the trillions upon trillions of data points that make up a second of what happens in the smallest fraction of the three dimensional reality that is our atmosphere is not "really simple" .

B I feel that it would be a much broader look at oil to say it's energy stored stably until we release it.

Our civilization? Not always. The ancients used olive oil to heat their houses. Considering the level of cultivation it was possible that they, being part of civilization, might have been carbon negative.

The option to go carbon negative is there. It will require leadership vision and sacrifice.
 

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