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Go big or go home

I used to play through a Sunn Coliseum head into two Peavey 215 cabs. Then I got old.



That's a gross oversimplification, but accurate nonetheless.
Yep. When you're young, the mantra is, "what the most gear that I can bring to a gig and get away with". When you're older, it's "what's the least amount of gear that I can bring to a gig and get away with".
 
Backline is the holy grail. Tonight's gig, I have to bring a bass and whatever head I want out of my collection. The SVT cab will await my arrival. I'd frankly rather go ampless, but it's a multi-band bill and most of them are not set up for that.

Probably going to bring my MB500 just to grind the OP. I'll take pics of my little 3 pound head on top of a 170+ pound cabinet. I do know one thing: it won't sound wimpy. That GK head never does.
 
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I have the SVT with 16- 10s , I used to play with 2 x 18" Folded horns too. This rig will hold its own with these rigs. (may not go to max volume, but they hold their own) 42.5 lbs, no roadie no SVT.
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also i just noticed that they were coin-operated!

did geddy make the roadies pay to get their laundry done?

I don't think it was a roadie....I think "VIP" guests get to put quarters in them. I did see someone come out and do that. Also, there were special shirts in the dryers that they would throw out into the audience.

Similarly, when the backline was the chicken roasters, a "guest" would come out and baste the chickens.

I did a quick search for video, but didn't find any.
 
With the growing number of threads directed towards going direct and lightweight amps I think it’s about time for a thread which brings us back to some punch-you-in-the-chest reality and why some of us will never let go of the heavy iron.

So why full-sized stage amps when running into a FOH system can get you just as loud? In my opinion, the answer to this question is what separates the boys from the men with regards to your sound. Somewhere along the way, the lure of minimalist setups has fooled guitarist and bassists into giving up their beloved stage possessions… namely their amplifiers. In some cases, giving them up totally, and in others trading them for stage monitor versions of their amplifiers. This was done under the thought that ‘it sounds just as good out front’. Well guess what? No, no it doesn’t. It doesn’t in a small bar, and it doesn’t in a concert venue. And, your live playing might take a dive as well. First off, just like cymbals and snare drums real amplifiers reverberate off the walls and ceiling – even in large venues. These reflections come at you in a multi-directional fashion and carry not only realistic characteristics of the amp but also the ‘color’ of the venue which you are playing in. And, it sounds awesome! This akin to a real band vs. a DJ or band in a box. Sound which is originated or largely amplified by the FOH is generally coming from isolated points left and right. And, this is done without the benefit of studio processing where mic placement, reverb, delay and compression have been strategically used to give the illusion of reality. Combine the sound projection coming from a glorified stereo with a flat mix and you are no aural competition for the real deal. Most people may not be able to put their finger on it, but they can tell the sound is kind of… meh, lacking excitement. Well, how about full-sized ‘light weight’ amps? I’m sorry to say, but there is a certain ‘heft’ to the sound of the old school gear. For many reasons it’s the heavy components in transformers, speakers, and cabinets that just can’t be beat when you want the best sound without compromise. In the end, I am certainly not telling anyone what gear you should use – use whatever makes you happy. But, if you’d like some straight talk on how to go directly to some world class sound, go for classic gear. Gear that is sized right for your stage and venue when using the FOH for reinforcement – not your primary sound source. Lean towards tube or solid-state amps with reputations of being work horses. You don’t need to over do it with speaker cabinets, but, bring enough so that your cabinets have plenty of head room to support your sound. There’s a reason why so many touring bass players use 2 4x10’s or an 8x10. Do you need that? No. Will it give you amazing authority, touch sensitivity and headroom? Absolutely. Gear that is undersized takes away your feel. Again, none of this is necessary. But if you’ve reached the point where you and your band just need a great sound than hopefully this helps you find your way. Lastly, while hefty amps and speaker cabinets do play and sound great in all sized venues, they can ruin your hearing and give you tinnitus. This is some serious stuff my brothers. Regardless of your amp size, you should have controlled stage volume and use in ears. Rock on!
You can't even grasp the concept of paragraphs and punctuation. How could this awful mess you posted have any validity at all?
 
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I take the SVT and 810 everywhere I can. At home I run both in stereo or wet/dry and it’s amazing.

just happy to see a thread about big cans get the typical my 4 pound amp and single 10 is just as cool as your heavy tube head treatment. Not everybody plays music to be a bar cover band and totally depend on a DI for their tone.
Right on!
 
Did a sub gig once. Regular guy uses a Trace rack rig into 2 Trace 4x10's. Was told he takes almost an hour to setup. I brought a Genz 4x10 and a Shuttle 6.0. Setup in 10 minutes. They looked at me and said "is that it?". Stage was full of bass.

I've had a very similar experience on many, many gigs.
I roll in with my CN212 and what ever class D head (500+ watts), take about 5 mins to set-up, and guys look at me like - is that it?
Generally once I start playing, they are like - damn, that sounds good.

I like the big old stuff too, but it's hard to beat some of the new small / light weigh stuff.

In terms of on stage, I still like to play a show with guys using amps... that whole ensemble thing, your amp is part of your instrument, making your sound on stage, listening, etc. Problem is, that 90% of guys don't know how to play to the room. That leads to ear splitting levels, guys turning up stuff in monitors, volume wars, poopy sound, and all that.
 
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@tshapiro that totally needed to be said. Love your post!

But then I saw that tiny LH1000 on top of your 410s... I mean, come on man, you can do better than that! I could probably fit that in my backpack!

Here's my setup - I use a Traynor Mono Block B and a early '90's Ampeg 810.
(Also got an Acoustic 370, but it needs some repairs at the moment)

I lug this rig wherever I play - indoors, outdoors, smaller venues, larger venues, cafes, a squat in East Berlin, five stories up with no elevator... doesn't matter. I carry all of my stuff by myself, can slide the 810 into the van without any problems, and one extra bandmate is enough to carry it safely. All the stories about Ampeg fridges being some extremely heavy and unwieldy monsters that require some sort of superhuman powers or a full crew of roadies to carry around are greatly exaggerated.

Cheers to all big rig users!
 

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