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Got Offering from Label, Is It Worthy?

I don't mean to sound rude, but who cares what we think ?

You need to have this reviewed by competent legal representation: The sad, sorry history of the Muzik Bidness is littered from A to Z with people who said 'we're not big enough to afford a lawyer yet'. IF binding contracts are being slid in front of you, YOU ARE. Otherwise, a few years from now when you're working double-shifts to pay out of that contract and playing music is a fond memory, that lawyer will seem really cheap.

The sorry history of the entertainment business is like going to Vegas the first time: THEY know the game(s) backwards and forwards and YOU just got off the bus from the sticks. The House almost always wins, but it always makes money. Don't pay for your education the hard way.


This. Read this enough times until it sinks in. Then read it again. Look at them as telemarketers. Just occasionally there is a legitimate situation, but most of the time they are just out to scam you. They put stars in your eyes, and grab your wallet when not looking.

Do some research. Look at other bands they have produced. Contact them and get the real skinny. See if the bands are making headway or just paying off debt.

PT Barnum once said, “A fool and their money are soon parted.”

He was in the entertainment business.

Do some research. Get a entertainment lawyer. Work through the fine print. They are taking a gamble on you as well. You better believe they will have a contract that was finely massaged for their benefit.

Look up Rumplestiltskin. Then think about it again.
 
You need to ask yourself a few questions before you worry about a lawyer (in my opinion)

Is the label a fit for your band and will they raise the profile of your band. Do they have a large active mailing list, an active facebook page with many likes and lots of people responding to their posts, a large presence across multiple social media platforms, a youtube channel with lots of subscriber and most importantly are these bands similar in style to yours? I'm a metal head, I subscribe, get mailing lists and follow and post on metal related label sites, that's often how I discover new bands. I get a mailing list from Metal Blade or go to their site to buy something from Band X, while I'm their I discover Band Z, because Metal Blade is a well respected label whom I buy from often and because of that I'm willing to listen to Band Z and check them out. Way to often I see these internet "labels" that have thousands of bands in all different styles and they have no focus, 150 facebook likes, no youtube channel etc etc.. I have no time for them. If your an alternative rock fan do they have any bands on their label that you've heard of and like, if no that is probably a red flag. I can ramble off dozens of metal labels big and small to you because they all have at least some good bands and a strong social media presence.

If this label has no strong social media presence across multiple platforms and no bigger respected bands on their label then why waste your time. For $20 a year you can have your music uploaded to every possible download and streaming platform and keep all the profits. You can create and work all your social media platforms yourself and sell all your merch on your own.

Are they giving you a sum of money to record a proper album? A sum so large that you and your bandmates could never come up with that money on your own?

Touring/Gig cut: Do they have a booking agency? Are they printing merch for you? Are their bands on their label playing nice tours in nice rooms in great markets and drawing crowds?...and ask yourself this serious question and be honest, can your band play in say 5-10 markets outside of your area where you live and draw around 50 people in each market? if you can't confidently answer yes then your probably not ready to tour, unless they have a roster with bands with established followings and they can put you on as a support act. You can build your fanbase online and gradually start playing out of your area on your own. Unless they are providing tour support or nice opening slots what's the point in giving them your money? If you already have a great following in out of state markets that you built why give them a cut of that if they can't expand on that for you.

Ask yourself why are they interested in your band? Do you have a large social media presence? thousands of facebook likes with an active community, videos with tens of thousands of likes, are you getting regular rotation on college radio, thousands of followers on spotify, great gigs with good draws across various regions. Is your sound so mind blowing and unique that you are truly a one of a kind band, is the singer world class, unique and have serious star power? Are the songs amazing, their blowing the minds of all your friends and going viral on the net because they are soooo good? I don't mean to come across as harsh but you have to ask yourself these questions and always wonder why someone is offering you a deal, this is a business, hopefully they see potential for your band to make money and grow, that's what keeps them working hard for you...because they can make money off you and with you.

Again, I'm not trying to be cold or mean, I know nothing about your band. You cold be the next big thing and this could be the start of an amazing journey to the top. Tell us the name of the label and send us the links to your bands youtube videos and social media pages. There are just way way way to many thrown together "labels" on the internet that all they do is post your songs on itunes and spotify and that's it, they thrive off making a few hundred bucks here and there thus signing tons of bands that they put no work or effort into growing their career. For what it's worth I speak from some experience, I've been in bands that were on medium size labels, I've worked for a label, I have friends who work at labels, friends in bands on big and small labels.

And if the majority of the above answers yes for you, then like everyone else said...get a lawyer to look over the contract.
 
I'm with everyone else on this.
Please, please get a lawyer.
One you can trust, and one experienced in the music business.
You say you can't afford one, but the truth is you really can't afford NOT to have one, not if you want to make a living at this.

My favourite reading material trends to music biographies ... bands, record labels, singers.
Pretty much every single one has instances of the artist getting screwed by a contract, be it management or recording company.
 
Thing is, we can't afford lawyer yet

If you can’t afford a lawyer to review a contract you definitely can’t afford to sign anything yet. Seriously. Signing a contract without competent legal guidance is one of the classic “biggest mistakes” a band can ever make. So please don’t make it. Save yourself some grief and us the time needed to read your long rant a year from now when it finally sinks in exactly what the deal was you agreed to.

If they’re genuinely interested in signing your band today (and not just buying slaves to make a quick buck) they’ll be just as interested in signing you tomorrow. Never be in too big a rush to ink a deal.

I’m also no attorney. But from the info you provided, what the label is offering you doesn’t sound like much of a deal to me. Being a child of the 60s the word RIPOFF!!! springs to mind.
 
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Run away. Lots of restrictions that you might unknowingly sign up for that are not in your interest. Companies know that $ has shifted. Income from recording is down, tour $ was sort of up there (depending who you are), but with virus is also now down. Plus, a contract may prohibit you from doing other things you really wish to do as a band (that you didn't even consider in the first place). Regarding not being able to afford a lawyer....remember the adage attributed to Lincoln.
He who represents himself has a fool for a client
 
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To repeat what everyone said, get legal consult to review the contract

This is the 21st Century - unless its a Major Label or Large Indie with a lot of clout and fanbase, make sure what the label is offering in services isnt something you can just do yourself
 
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Congrats. I have been signed twice, once by a small label and once by major label Warner Brothers. Let me give you my input.
Getting a lawyer is a very good idea. Try to meet a few and see if they will take you on as a client with payment later. It can make a really big difference if you have representation. The lawyer can help negotiate the deal or at least review it before hand. They are very helpful in other ways. Ours worked a deal with Dave Edmonds and we were given permission to cover and record one of his songs, ("I knew the bride when she used to rock and Roll")
Without a lawyer we would have been sued for recording the song.
I was also once sued by the guy from "The Band" Robbie Robertson because the name of our band was "The Barnburners" and Robbie had been using that name for a solo project.
A lawyer is a good thing.
Also, another trick in the music business is that the label will pay for recording and stuff up front. We ran up a huge bill following their direction. We once spent 8 hours at $150.00 a hour just getting the snare and bass drum to sound good. They love to waste money in the studio because they get all that money back up front before you get any revenue. It is very hard to know how much they spent and it gets ugly if you ask for documentation. They use this trick for advertising and promotion too. They spend and spend and then later you get the bill. They get paid back 100% before you see a single dollar.
Your journey is just now starting. Good luck and I hope it works out for you.