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greenboy's non-fEARful cabs

#142
kringle77 said:
Lomo, what driver did you have installed in your basic? Thats got to be a punchy cab compared to the 15/6. C
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I told Mike I wanted significant upper mid content, particularly around 1K-1200Hz and he suggested the Faital 15 would be best.....I am totally satisfied. It produces about the same volume as a Scout 15, with much less deep lows (under 100ish), stronger mids, at similar price and LESS THAN HALF the weight:p

How's the giggin' up yer way? We are very quiet this summer as Paul's schedule is in knots and the rest of ours aren't much better-tough to find time to practice, let alone book gigs.
 
#143
barryaudio said:
Both 4 and 8 Ohm models have the same power rating. If you have an incredibly low powered amp that could benefit from the extra 2-3dB, then maybe you would consider the 4Ohm. But, for purposes of electric bass, most players will enjoy the 3012HO model which can be driven harder than the 12PR300. There are versions that offers a tweeter with xover for both the 12PR300 and 3012HO models. Greenboy has put up a some info on his forum.
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Does the Eminence/Faital comparison extend to the 15" versions of each? Can the Em 15 be driven harder than the Faital?
 
#144
Lomo, I've been doing alot of acoustic gigs this summer. There seems to be a market for it. I do miss using my amp though. That faital is a good driver. Im having LDS build me a 2x15 with a tweet using the eminence drivers. The tuning is similar enough that I could switch them for faitals I think. The faital definitely doesn't need a tweet.
 
#145
The Eminence 3015 (non lf) can go a touch louder than the Faital. The funny thing about the Faitals is that they break up "prettier" as they're pushed to and past their limit. While the Eminence can be pushed a bit further when it's done it's done.

I recommend the Faital when someone wants more of a classic 15 sound. The 3015 has a more aggressive midrange and and a bit more "bark" although it still sounds really nice. With the 12" 3012ho it really needs a bit of midrange taming---the 15---less so.
 
#147
takeout said:
The Faital goes lower though, correct? All else being equal?
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There was a pretty fun thread where JohnK built two DIY 215 cabs. One with 3015's and one with Faitals. In his view, the Faitals went a little lower AND higher (if memory serves), and he deemed the Faitals the 'winner' for a full range cab...
 
#150
Wow, haven't checked into this thread in a while. Some awesome stuff happening in the GB world. Please don't flame me with a "search function" response :hiding:, but that 1515/6 is called a Fearless and uses a pair of 3015 non-LF or 15PR400's, yes?

::::BASSIST:::: said:
Believe it or not, CF has been done. Looks really cool. Not sure what kind of cab it was but I remember the pic fairly clearly.
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From one of Zac's Zaclite threads:
Petebass said:
... I also had one of those friends build a replica of a previous 1x12 design from Carbon Fibre (see pic). This speaker has a Beyma 112ndW in it so it was never going to be a flyweight cab, not with that driver in it. But his CF cab weighs 3kg (6.6lbs) less than my wooden one, 12kg Vs 15kg (26.5lbs Vs 33.1lbs).... and it looks much sexier don't ya think? This cab was made for an Olympic sailor by the people who made his medal winning boats, so as you can imagine the materials used and the build technique were very different to your cabs Zac. This one has divinycell foam, a mould, vacuum bagging, the works. If I had access to world class composites experts who'd do it for free, I would have went all out as well :)

JohnForbesCFversion01.jpg
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And re: 3015 v 15pr400
Mike Arnopol said:
The Eminence 3015 (non lf) can go a touch louder than the Faital. The funny thing about the Faitals is that they break up "prettier" as they're pushed to and past their limit. While the Eminence can be pushed a bit further when it's done it's done.

I recommend the Faital when someone wants more of a classic 15 sound. The 3015 has a more aggressive midrange and and a bit more "bark" although it still sounds really nice. With the 12" 3012ho it really needs a bit of midrange taming---the 15---less so.
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dukeorock said:
There was a pretty fun thread where JohnK built two DIY 215 cabs. One with 3015's and one with Faitals. In his view, the Faitals went a little lower AND higher (if memory serves), and he deemed the Faitals the 'winner' for a full range cab...
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John said the Faitals were so much louder that you couldn't hardly tell the 3015 cab was even on when playing both together. I'd guess it could be a manufacturing tolerance issue, as I wouldn't second-guess either of these two respected TB gurus. Mike's working from a larger sample set, so maybe on average, the 3015 is louder?
 
#151
astack said:
John said the Faitals were so much louder that you couldn't hardly tell the 3015 cab was even on when playing both together. I'd guess it could be a manufacturing tolerance issue, as I wouldn't second-guess either of these two respected TB gurus. Mike's working from a larger sample set, so maybe on average, the 3015 is louder?
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Both statements are true...with the same wattage applied, the Failtals will sound 'louder,' but the 3015's can take more wattage, if I remember correctly. So with a low powered amp, you'll get more perceived volume from the Faitals, but ultimately the 3015's will go further with the big watts :)
 
#156
dukeorock said:
Both statements are true...with the same wattage applied, the Failtals will sound 'louder,' but the 3015's can take more wattage, if I remember correctly. So with a low powered amp, you'll get more perceived volume from the Faitals, but ultimately the 3015's will go further with the big watts :)
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Duh! Makes sense. And reading back through Mike's post above, he makes that point. I just didn't digest it. Thanks for the clarification.

CL400Peavey said:
the fEARless 215 uses two 3015LF woofers.
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Ah, OK. Thanks!
 
#158
I can build in carbon fiber---no real difference except price.But It's going to weigh the same. The advantage of carbon fiber comes when you can vacuum bag. You can go with way less resin. And less cloth. Vacuum bagging squeezes all excess resin.
If I vacuum bagged even with my current fiberglass I'd save maybe a couple of pounds on a cab. But the cabinet costs would go way up. You have to use bagging material, peel-ply and breather cloth. And unless you have a huge commercial setup you can only do one piece at a time. I think that Robby was bagging but bailed on it---too much time and expense. The cabs are light enough as it is!
 

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