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Hanging basses on drywall?

#22
I've got 3 guitars and a bass all hanging. One guitar is on a Hercules, the others and the bass are on regular 2 screw hangers. The guitars and semi hollow, though. One is the Epiphone Tom DeLonge ES-333, the other a thinline Fender telecaster. They aren't in studs, but have decent anchors. As long as you don't drop your basses into the hanger you will be fine.
 
#23
StuartV said:
I got approval from the head office to hang some of my basses up. :eek: :hyper:

I think I'm going to use these Hercules hangers:

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I saw in the Pics of your Bass Room thread that several people used these other Hercules ones:

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But, since the first one attaches with 3 screws instead of 2, I think that will be better for me.

The question is, have any of you had any problems with using these attached directly to drywall? As in, have you ever had a bass fall?

I'm thinking that, with 3 screws into plastic drywall anchors (like Amazon.com: OOK 59208 60 Piece Assorted Screw and Anchor Kit: Home Improvement or Amazon.com: TOGGLER SnapSkru SP Self-Drilling Drywall Anchors with Screws, USA Made, For #8 Fastener Size (Pack of 20): Industrial & Scientific), and the basses all weighing 10 pounds or less, it should be fine.

Thanks for any help!

ps. I couldn't spot a subforum that seemed more appropriate than this one for this thread, but if there is, mods feel free to move it (as if you wouldn't anyway ;)).
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Use the second one and screw into the studs.
 
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#24
For the record:

1) I already have a stud finder and know how to use it. Every time I get it out, I wait until my g/f walks by then wave it over my chest and say "BEEP!!". ;)

2) I'm going to hang 6 or 7 basses on one wall. If I don't just hang them from the drywall, I would have to put up backing boards, attached to studs, and then attach the hangers to that. That is what I am trying to avoid by asking the question in my OP.
 
#26
Use the best anchors you can find.

Or you might end up with this:
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Previously, this hung for a over year with no problems using 75lb anchors, when I moved to my new shop, a friend installed the hanger using smaller anchors... It held for about an hour. :bawl:

I do plan to rebuild it.

Moonshine :bassist:
 
#29
Ouch! Moonshine, I remember when that happened and you posted the pics then. It still hurts to look at it. :(

In the meantime, I have found that Hercules makes a slatwall version of the same hanger. And, apparently, I can get individual tracks of slatwall from StringSwing.com or use Gladiator GearTrack channels from Lowes.

That would sure make getting everything level and spaced correctly a lot easier!

Oh, and knigel, I already know this house has steel framing. I am unclear, though, on why you say that means I need a backer board. Are you saying to do that instead of attaching the hangers directly to the studs? Or do that because the studs will prevent me from using the 75# drywall anchors?
 
#34
It sounds like screwing regular screws into metal interior wall studs might not even be as secure as using the 75# drywall anchors - even with a backing board.

From what knigel said, I'm imagining a board with a sheet metal (or similar) screw going through it, through the drywall behind it, and then through the side of a Coke can. 2 screws, every 16". Sure, the hangers won't come loose from the backing board. But, with, say, 4 basses hanging on it, is the backing board going to be any more secure on the wall than using 2 or 3 75# drywall anchors for each bass and hanging the hanger directly on the drywall?
 
#35
StuartV said:
Oh, and knigel, I already know this house has steel framing. I am unclear, though, on why you say that means I need a backer board. Are you saying to do that instead of attaching the hangers directly to the studs? Or do that because the studs will prevent me from using the 75# drywall anchors?
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Sorry, I meant that might be a better alternative to the anchors. You can screw right to the stud, but being a former drywaller I can tell you that screws can strip out pretty easily with light gauge steel (20 or 25, typical for interior framing).

If you use a nice piece of 1/2 ply, say a 12 inch strip across the wall (I'm making a few assumptions, like you have a nice open wall and it is more office-y), you could screw the ply right to the studs, say three or four per stud, on every stud (typically every 16 inches, could be 24 or 12 depending on the wall). Then you screw the hangers to the ply, and you get some nice sturdiness (after painting the ply and making it look pretty of course). This will give you the freedom to space the basses as you wish, and the ply spreads the weight of the basses over the length of the wood. Also, bear in mind that the stud is less than 1 1/2 inches--not a lot of real estate to screw to!
 
#38
Thanks, JumboJack! I'm definitely leaning in that direction. Other than being careful to make sure I get everything level and spaced right, that sure would be the simplest way to go!
 
#39
knigel said:
Sorry, I meant that might be a better alternative to the anchors. You can screw right to the stud, but being a former drywaller I can tell you that screws can strip out pretty easily with light gauge steel (20 or 25, typical for interior framing).

If you use a nice piece of 1/2 ply, say a 12 inch strip across the wall (I'm making a few assumptions, like you have a nice open wall and it is more office-y), you could screw the ply right to the studs, say three or four per stud, on every stud (typically every 16 inches, could be 24 or 12 depending on the wall). Then you screw the hangers to the ply, and you get some nice sturdiness (after painting the ply and making it look pretty of course). This will give you the freedom to space the basses as you wish, and the ply spreads the weight of the basses over the length of the wood. Also, bear in mind that the stud is less than 1 1/2 inches--not a lot of real estate to screw to!
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And.....if you want.....you can run it over to my house and we can put a nice decorative edge on it using my router table. Although I wouldn't use plywood or run it on my router table. Just get a piece of Poplar or Oak at HD or Lowe's. If Poplar, paint it afterwards. They sell Red Oak over at HD on Fairway.
I'm probably a couple miles from ya, and we could put a nice edge on it in about a minute.
You can also pop in some (somewhat decorative) plugs over the screw holes in the Oak.
 
#40
StuartV said:
It sounds like screwing regular screws into metal interior wall studs might not even be as secure as using the 75# drywall anchors - even with a backing board.

From what knigel said, I'm imagining a board with a sheet metal (or similar) screw going through it, through the drywall behind it, and then through the side of a Coke can. 2 screws, every 16". Sure, the hangers won't come loose from the backing board. But, with, say, 4 basses hanging on it, is the backing board going to be any more secure on the wall than using 2 or 3 75# drywall anchors for each bass and hanging the hanger directly on the drywall?
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Screwing three or four per stud (screwing through wood/drywall into metal stud) the length of, say, ten feet (something like that, you mentioned seven basses, figure one every foot or so with room at the end)? That can take a hell of a lot of weight.

Anchors in drywall and fancy basses--it would probably be totally fine, don't get me wrong--but I wouldn't do it. I'd be nervous all the time I tell ya!
 

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