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have the D's toppled the SVT's?

#361
Agosix said:
Agree, I had changed to a tung sol and it wasn't the same. Put the shguang back in and way better tone around so it stays in.
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The surprise was changing the rectifier tube. Okay the sag from the 1944 RCA a guitarist would just love. The EH offered taught punchiness. There is so much delicious chewy color in the Monique that to crown it with immediate attack was my win!

This is why our notions get in the way. "15s have more bass than 10s." "1944 NOS JAN RCA Blackplates have to be better than the 2016 Russian Electro Harmonix rectifier tube." Not necessarily. The Ruby has a little bit more sag than the EH if you're tube rolling. As always, YMMV. :)
 
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bobyoung53 said:
No, I think he meant we were all following the SVT herd like sheep, if that's true then baaaaaaa! :roflmao:. (As Sam the Sham sung)
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I used the term "sheeple" because, now more than ever, I see players that have no opinion of their own and choose Ampeg because it is the safe choice because everyone else is using them, instead of going out on thier own and testing out other products to see what works best for them. The choice is yours, you can sound like the rest of them, or you can stand out from the crowd. Now, if you got something negative out of it, then that is on you. I realize that "sheeple" may not have been the best word for it, so I apologize for bruising anyone's ego (which clearly happened) All the best to you
 
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morgan138 said:
Exactly! And combine this with "lots of bands travel to shows together in vans or multiple cars, instead of going on their own or taking public transportation." If you're already wrangling 4-5 people into an E350, an extra 80 pounds of bass head won't even be noticeable.
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Depends on your options. I travel with my drummer to most shows - my bass and rig (class D head and smaller lightweight 2x12 and his entire drum set fits in the back of a Hyundai Elantra hatchback. So, yeah, it would be noticeable...
 
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larrymon74 said:
I used the term "sheeple" because, now more than ever, I see players that have no opinion of their own and choose Ampeg because it is the safe choice because everyone else is using them, instead of going out on thier own and testing out other products to see what works best for them. The choice is yours, you can sound like the rest of them, or you can stand out from the crowd. Now, if you got something negative out of it, then that is on you. I realize that "sheeple" may not have been the best word for it, so I apologize for bruising anyone's ego (which clearly happened) All the best to you
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I don't know about anyone else but I've been playing way too long for a comment like that to bruise my ego, I just thought it was kind of an uninformed opinion. I think that Ampeg users probably are at least as discerning and thinking as anyone else out there, it takes commitment to lug an SVT everywhere. I of course check(ed) out many types of amps and picked Ampeg because it is the best sounding amp out there for me. Just because Ampeg is popular doesn't mean people pick it because everyone else is using them, did it ever occur to you that a lot of people use them simply because they rock and many of the newer amps are listless when you play through them? Some people don't really care to stand out from the crowd and others realize that you don't have to stand out from the crowd especially if you like the stuff the crowd is using. Me? I've been using them for 40+ years from when they were everywhere, and the reason I stuck with them is because I care more about sound and response than I do weight and inconvenience.
 
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bobyoung53 said:
I don't know about anyone else but I've been playing way too long for a comment like that to bruise my ego, I just thought it was kind of an uninformed opinion. I think that Ampeg users probably are at least as discerning and thinking as anyone else out there, it takes commitment to lug an SVT everywhere. I of course check(ed) out many types of amps and picked Ampeg because it is the best sounding amp out there for me. Just because Ampeg is popular doesn't mean people pick it because everyone else is using them, did it ever occur to you that a lot of people use them simply because they rock and many of the newer amps are listless when you play through them? Some people don't really care to stand out from the crowd and others realize that you don't have to stand out from the crowd especially if you like the stuff the crowd is using. Me? I've been using them for 40+ years from when they were everywhere, and the reason I stuck with them is because I care more about sound and response than I do weight and inconvenience.
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With a response like that, you may not have a bruised ego, but your feathers are definitely ruffled. I am not here to start a fight/ argument with anyone. I am stating an opinion. I already apologized in my last post, what more do you want from me? You also have the right to keep scrolling if you don't like what someone posts. And on that note...

Kindest regards

L
 
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JimmyM said:
As long as it keeps selling, it will be in the lineup.

You know, I'd love to see yearly SVT sales figures from the 70's and now. I'd bet that they're within 10% of each other. There was a time where they seemed down in the late 80's and early 90's, but I think I see more SVT's on stages now than I ever have.
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I'd love to see that figure even just for all tube bass amps in general. In my world the percentage that I see on stage has been very low for at least a few decades, probably low to middle single digits, tops. But my world is clearly different than yours, and many other TB'ers.
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bobyoung53 said:
I don't know about anyone else but I've been playing way too long for a comment like that to bruise my ego, I just thought it was kind of an uninformed opinion. I think that Ampeg users probably are at least as discerning and thinking as anyone else out there, it takes commitment to lug an SVT everywhere. I of course check(ed) out many types of amps and picked Ampeg because it is the best sounding amp out there for me. Just because Ampeg is popular doesn't mean people pick it because everyone else is using them, did it ever occur to you that a lot of people use them simply because they rock and many of the newer amps are listless when you play through them? Some people don't really care to stand out from the crowd and others realize that you don't have to stand out from the crowd especially if you like the stuff the crowd is using. Me? I've been using them for 40+ years from when they were everywhere, and the reason I stuck with them is because I care more about sound and response than I do weight and inconvenience.
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larrymon74 said:
With a response like that, you may not have a bruised ego, but your feathers are definitely ruffled. I am not here to start a fight/ argument with anyone. I am stating an opinion. I already apologized in my last post, what more do you want from me? You also have the right to keep scrolling if you don't like what someone posts. And on that note...

Kindest regards

L
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larrymon74, no offense to you, but you could have heeded your own advice and just kept right on scrolling past Bob's post without making that rude comment to him. ;)
 
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Passinwind said:
I'd love to see that figure even just for all tube bass amps in general. In my world the percentage that I see on stage has been very low for at least a few decades, probably low to middle single digits, tops. But my world is clearly different than yours, and many other TB'ers.
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There may be a difference between what people are buying and what they're using on stage. Living three blocks from what's very likely the best bass department in Canada I'm in there 1-3 times a week. I see the Ampeg PF-20's/50's and V4B's selling very steadily. Used SVT's rarely last more than a few days. Something really cool like a British made Ashdown Little Bastard will last hours. People might not be using tube amps on stage but they are buying them. I own two tube amps and can see myself buying a PF-20 before another SS amp. But on stage most often I do use a class D amp.
 
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Jeff Bonny said:
There may be a difference between what people are buying and what they're using on stage. Living three blocks from what's very likely the best bass department in Canada I'm in there 1-3 times a week. I see the Ampeg PF-20's/50's and V4B's selling very steadily. Used SVT's rarely last more than a few days. Something really cool like a British made Ashdown Little Bastard will last hours. People might not be using tube amps on stage but they are buying them. I own two tube amps and can see myself buying a PF-20 before another SS amp. But on stage most often I do use a class D amp.
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where is this magical place?
 
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Jeff Bonny said:
There may be a difference between what people are buying and what they're using on stage. Living three blocks from what's very likely the best bass department in Canada I'm in there 1-3 times a week. I see the Ampeg PF-20's/50's and V4B's selling very steadily. Used SVT's rarely last more than a few days. Something really cool like a British made Ashdown Little Bastard will last hours. People might not be using tube amps on stage but they are buying them. I own two tube amps and can see myself buying a PF-20 before another SS amp. But on stage most often I do use a class D amp.
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That's a very good point Jeff.
 
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Jeff Bonny said:
There may be a difference between what people are buying and what they're using on stage. Living three blocks from what's very likely the best bass department in Canada I'm in there 1-3 times a week. I see the Ampeg PF-20's/50's and V4B's selling very steadily. Used SVT's rarely last more than a few days. Something really cool like a British made Ashdown Little Bastard will last hours. People might not be using tube amps on stage but they are buying them. I own two tube amps and can see myself buying a PF-20 before another SS amp. But on stage most often I do use a class D amp.
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Just to be contrarian and throw in another view, I own 2 amps made after 2008 - a PF-500 and a boutique tube head. Just about everything else I own is pre-1975. I think the secondary market on tube amps is going to be the entry point for a lot of people. Used SVTs sell in the same price range as some of the higher end class D offerings.
 
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