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#61
The blunt truth is that humans are parasites on the face of the earth.



Now.. what do we do about it? I try to minimize my ecological footprint as much as possible by:

-being vegan
-cycling, using transit, carpooling (i havent owned a car in 5 years)
-reduce, reuse recycle everything as much as is reasonable.
-be cognizant of the fact that the most power I have as an average citizen is in my wallet... thus use my purchasing power wisely.


Or you can drive an SUV, eat meat and throw paper in the garbage and buy a bass made from Tibetan or Endagered wood (etc) without thinking twice... seems pretty typical of the average North American IMHO.
 
#65
oooo oooo oooo! where is my flame retardent fire suit...;)

guess I shouldnt be surprised. sorry for trying to be a responsible person.

When I made such a statement to my father he said "dont worry by the time we totally destroy the earth we can just colonize the moon and live in a bio-dome".

Then we can experience nature thru holodecks like on Star Trek.

Wont that be fun?
 
#67
VEGANBASS said:
oooo oooo oooo! where is my flame retardent fire suit...;)

guess I shouldnt be surprised. sorry for trying to be a responsible person.
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Looking at your gear list there, VEGGIE BASS, you've got a lot of stuff made of plastic and a lot of stuff with printed circuit boards. If you want to take your "responsibility" seriously, you'd better get rid of that stuff, dude. Parasites made that unnatural gear from natural elements the Creator never intended to be used for MegaDeath.

If there's one thing that's guaranteed NOT to save the world, it's an in-your-face holier-than-thou attitude.
 
#68
VEGANBASS said:
The blunt truth is that humans are parasites on the face of the earth.



Now.. what do we do about it? I try to minimize my ecological footprint as much as possible by:

-being vegan
-cycling, using transit, carpooling (i havent owned a car in 5 years)
-reduce, reuse recycle everything as much as is reasonable.
-be cognizant of the fact that the most power I have as an average citizen is in my wallet... thus use my purchasing power wisely.


Or you can drive an SUV, eat meat and throw paper in the garbage and buy a bass made from Tibetan or Endagered wood (etc) without thinking twice... seems pretty typical of the average North American IMHO.
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Now, when one takes a philosophy to an extreme, it becomes fanatacism. Perhaps you have crossed that line, perhaps not. You included the phrase "as much as is reasonable." You, however, are not the sole arbiter of what constitutes "reasonable." You can only decide that for yourself. It's fine to attempt to educate and enlighten but self-righteousness is an ugly trait. Parasites? I think not!
 
#70
VEGANBASS said:
guess I shouldnt be surprised. sorry for trying to be a responsible person.
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Perhaps, but you're doing it without your brain (go learn some facts about life...not recognizing humankind as part of nature is evidence of your ignorance and a bad basis for the rest of your philosphy) and then following that up with condescension. A pesky combination.
 
#71
Jeff Bollbach said:
Ha Ha- Vultures are parasites and the Tibetans think they are holy which means that Tibetans suck and their wood does too!

Oh wait, I guess vultures are saphrophites-my bad, sorry, completely different value. Never mind.
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Vultures are scavengers, nature's own recycling squadron. They don't always wait until you are dead, either;- as anyone who has been in an open steamy planted field knows, they circle as soon as you look tired and weak. Perk up, Jeff;- you're giving them ideas. They will put a dying animal out of it's misery with one sharp peck straight into the beating heart. They are also sacred to most Native American cultures. In Georgia, in recognition of their positive role in removing carrion and road kill, they are protected by law, sacred or not.

Saphrophytes (gotta watch Jeff's spelling) are something different entirely, niether symbionts, nor parasites, nor scavengers. Diversity of living things and appreciation for other cultures are not exactly your strong suits are they, Jeff?
 
#73
VEGANBASS said:
The blunt truth is that humans are parasites on the face of the earth.



Now.. what do we do about it? I try to minimize my ecological footprint as much as possible by:

-being vegan
-cycling, using transit, carpooling (i havent owned a car in 5 years)
-reduce, reuse recycle everything as much as is reasonable.
-be cognizant of the fact that the most power I have as an average citizen is in my wallet... thus use my purchasing power wisely.
- acting really condescending toward those who do not share my values.


Or you can drive an SUV, eat meat and throw paper in the garbage and buy a bass made from Tibetan or Endagered wood (etc) without thinking twice... seems pretty typical of the average North American IMHO.
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Fixed it for you. :)
 
#75
LLUTHIERLECTURER said:
Diversity of living things and appreciation for other cultures are not exactly your strong suits are they, Jeff?
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i·ro·ny n. pl. i·ro·nies

1)The use of words to express something different from and often opposite to their literal meaning.

2)An expression or utterance marked by a deliberate contrast between apparent and intended meaning.

3)A literary style employing such contrasts for humorous or rhetorical effect. See Synonyms at wit1.

4)Incongruity between what might be expected and what actually occurs: “Hyde noted the irony of Ireland's copying the nation she most hated” (Richard Kain).

5)An occurrence, result, or circumstance notable for such incongruity.
 
#78
MUTT & JEFF said:
Silversorcerer Diversity of living things and appreciation for other cultures are not exactly your strong suits are they said:
Nor would a sense of humour be yours. Sanctimony, perhaps? Or as you would see-the only one with a clear vision.
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Just to be "fair and balanced", nor would post formatting be one of yours. :D
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#79
The blunt truth is that humans are parasites on the face of the earth.
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Just an observation for my vegan friend.

You say parasite, yet all living things are parasitic to a degree. You yourself are mowing down vegetable matter daily to feed your system, what did the vegetables do to you? Nothing. Their death is required, so that you may live. I understand this, I'm sure you do also. Life takes life from life.

250 years ago in this country, your very existence and quality of living as well as your family's depended on how good you were at hunting, trapping and farming. You are alive today because your relatives were good shots, we all are. Zoom forward to today, where we have cities, complete with supermarkets. Few people farm crop or meat, most have never even stood in a field or barn. We give cute names to herd animals in cartoons to humanize them, and we look at the industrial-style farms, complete with hormone and dna technology, as a blight upon the earth. Fine, I can understand getting upset about 5 ft tall hormone induced chicken.

So now I look at the folks that see our way of city life as wrong, and observe how they decide to live, either as vegans or similar (like those who adopt Paganism as their faith, for instance), and those who choose to live naturally.

To live naturally, you go off with whatever equipment you feel is needed and live off the land in some remote place. Hunt, fish, farm, live. I can respect that.

Or, become a vegan. The vegan does not say life takes from life, but instead chooses plant life only, and then heads to the health food store to snort some carrot juice and act superior, as if he is not really killing anything. The problem is, without technology supportiing him, his way of living will kill him and his family. There isn't enough plant matter in nature to consistently supply him, especially in Winter. In nature, there is no fleece, except on animals. And he is killing, just nothing with a face.

So would a group that adopts a way of life that is not self-sustaining, which employs vast agricultural and fossil fuel resources to have its "special" food and clothing trucked all over the country, be considered a parasite? Me thinks they may well be.

p.s., my daughter, at 12 yrs, is a vegetarian, so I'm not just an ignorant woodchuck that hates tree huggers or anything. I'm an ignorant woodchuch with a veggie daughter. :)

Hey what's the topic anyway?
 
#80
John, I think you overreach. It takes a small fraction of the resources required to raise beef and pork, or to farm fish, to produce the same amount of calories and protein from non-animal sources. I'm no vegan, but this is a fact. Does someone out there have the actual numbers?
 

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