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How old before "vintage" sticks?

... It's widely known as one of the worst cars Ford ever produced...

Are you serious?!! I think the Maverick was one of the better vehicles Ford put out in the 70s. I had a '75 Granada... that was ***** as was that factory colon-extrusion with a 'Mustang' name-badge. And how can the Pinto be forgotten? The Pinto had a decent motor but it was like the Chevy Vega in that it practically started rusting on the showroom floor.

Anyway. To me vintage is age dependent. Something can be vintage but not necessarily desirable or collectible.
 
So my '83 Peavey is vintage if old enough and deemed desirable enough by some external decision maker?

I'm old enough to want to cough up a hairball at the idea of something from the '80's as vintage.

And the Maverick, the Pinto, the Granada and the Mustang of the late '70's-early '80's were all an embarrassment to civilized society. Of course, so were most other cars of that era.
 
Motor vehicles can be registered as vintage if they are 25 years old or older. I have always applied that time frame to also include instruments. Though I admit 1985 and older doesn't seem especially old to me as far as far as instruments go.
 
So my '83 Peavey is vintage if old enough and deemed desirable enough by some external decision maker?

I'm old enough to want to cough up a hairball at the idea of something from the '80's as vintage.

And the Maverick, the Pinto, the Granada and the Mustang of the late '70's-early '80's were all an embarrassment to civilized society. Of course, so were most other cars of that era.

As long as you don't include the Dodge Dart. I had a '74 with a Slant 6. Indestructible. It took my ex-wife running through a stop sign and smashing into another car to kill it!

Sorry if I hijacked the thread a bit, but I simply had to get that in!;)
 
If you want to talk about crappy Fords you need to bring up the Fairmont and Pinto. To be fair there were a lot of crappy cars built back then. I had an old pale yellow Subaru that while it could not be killed (yes the car was undead) it was a total wreck on wheels. And that's without a single dent. It looked ugly, took the better part of a week to go 0 to 60 (downhill), and would shudder if a bicyclist rode past. Come to think of it the Fairmont I drove in High School was also a faded yellow color...
 
Old is not necessarily good.
Case in point: there is a Pinto 2 dr wagon still fully operational (and yes, roadworthy) in my town, and dude even drives it in the winter (must have a lot of very good undercoating!), but no one is beating down his door with offers to buy it.

I've seen plenty of old guitars that were just that: old. Not better because of their age, they were still lesser specimens than many, and I've seen plenty of new guitars that are better than many because of construction technology advances.

I don't think that age imparts some magical quality to any instruments, if they're exceptional they were exceptional from the day they were assembled.
 
I like to think pre-80, because I have a hard time of thinking of stuff from the 80s as vintage, but I'd agree that pegging it to a year requirement is probably the best way to characterize it technically, so 25+ years.


True, though there are exceptions. An 81' Les Paul Heritage certainly qualifies as vintage in my book. Generally though I think the 70s is the earliest decade I would consider vintage.
 
I always applied it to thing 25 years or older, and generaly with quality.

I don't associate quality with alot of 80's guitars, or even 70s fenders. I remember in the 90's the 70's and 80's fenders were often considered junk, and sold really cheaply, now not so much. funny how things change.