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I don't really get/like metal...
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Next thing you know the naughty filter will begin to translate "Cool cat" to "Cold pussy".
I wonder if Cookie Monster gets/likes metal, or if he ever gets credit as being an influence on metal vocals
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I don't think soapy is the word, and if it's in the right blend with other spices, I don't mind it.
The only thing I absolutely don't like about the metal community is how many sub-genres there are and how picky people will be if you call a band the wrong one.
I wish I could call Kamelot just a "metal" band, but people would freak out on me if I did that.
I wish I could call Kamelot just a "metal" band, but people would freak out on me if I did that.
Those guys were the metal of their day...shrieking noisy knuckle dragging ‘music’*(defying all that is holy and tasteful)performed by screaming weird looking madmen with dubious morals, everything that parents find repugnant and corrupting(well, maybe not Fats, but what is that ‘thrill’ he’s singing about?).
* if you can call it that
I don’t care for most of what passes for vocals in Metal. And a lot of the newer branches of the genre (metalheads love splitting hairs over the finer points of distinction between sub-genres) seem to me to be becoming more like parodies of the genre rather than forging new ground within it.
But I’m an old guy who’s good with Geriatric Metal where there are still distinguishable notes and at least a token attempt at some sort of melody with coherent lyrics rather than free association phrases you get with a lot of today’s metal. The new stuff I’ve been hearing just seems to be about nothing other than a lot of bass frequencies, dense textures, and speed. Almost the antithesis of music at times.
But maybe that’s just me. “Old Guy” y’know?
Is there a thing called Post Music or maybe anti-music yet ?
to:dr - There’s nothing to get about Metal. It’s just another genre. You like it or you don’t. If you don’t - listen to something else.
But I’m an old guy who’s good with Geriatric Metal where there are still distinguishable notes and at least a token attempt at some sort of melody with coherent lyrics rather than free association phrases you get with a lot of today’s metal. The new stuff I’ve been hearing just seems to be about nothing other than a lot of bass frequencies, dense textures, and speed. Almost the antithesis of music at times.
But maybe that’s just me. “Old Guy” y’know?
Is there a thing called Post Music or maybe anti-music yet ?
to:dr - There’s nothing to get about Metal. It’s just another genre. You like it or you don’t. If you don’t - listen to something else.
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Now that would be an interesting sub-genre!
Of course that's already covered... Pornogrind - Wikipedia
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Winger were the very unfortunate victims of a bizarre, perfect storm of circumstances, starting with Beavis and Butthead , but they were (are) exceptional musicians that created some REALLY good and sophisticated music. Even their cliche'-ish "hits" are very well constructed and executed songs. They have a fairly substantial catalog that is seriously, worth listening to...... you don't have to tell anyone you did
This is a common misconception about metal. It doesn't promote hate or violence. It holds an unflattering mirror up to reality. If humanity exudes hate and violence in such overwhelming amounts, you can't blame musicians for voicing their disgust with humanity.
Unfortunately there's a sea of bad metal in every sub-genre. I can really understand why most people are turned off from it. There's some real talent, too, though. I think metal has been carrying the flag for the shredder type "guitar hero" for a while now, which is why you see so many young kids trying to start metal bands.
I like some metal (though I struggle to take a lot of cookie monster/harsh vocals seriously from anyone over 21), but it's a lot of metal drumming I don't like much.
Too much emphasis on speed, with no feel or power. Drums are an acoustic instrument, and they sound better when hit hard. It's why so many have tried but failed to sound like Bonham. When you play like a woodpecker, there's no resonance and it's all clicky and boring. There's also no room for groove, nothing to move butts instead of nodding heads.
As it's apparently against the law to talk about metal without evangelizing one's favourites, there are exceptions: Chris Hakius (Sleep, Om, now retired), Des Kensel (High on Fire), Brann Dailor (Mastodon), Jason Roeder (Neurosis, Sleep), and the best of all, Mario Rubalcaba (Earthless, Hot Snakes, Off!, etc). I personally put Rubalcaba up with the greatest drummers of all time, but I'm generally not arsed about polyrhythms etc. so YMMV.
Too much emphasis on speed, with no feel or power. Drums are an acoustic instrument, and they sound better when hit hard. It's why so many have tried but failed to sound like Bonham. When you play like a woodpecker, there's no resonance and it's all clicky and boring. There's also no room for groove, nothing to move butts instead of nodding heads.
As it's apparently against the law to talk about metal without evangelizing one's favourites, there are exceptions: Chris Hakius (Sleep, Om, now retired), Des Kensel (High on Fire), Brann Dailor (Mastodon), Jason Roeder (Neurosis, Sleep), and the best of all, Mario Rubalcaba (Earthless, Hot Snakes, Off!, etc). I personally put Rubalcaba up with the greatest drummers of all time, but I'm generally not arsed about polyrhythms etc. so YMMV.
