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I HATE PCs SO MUCH!!!
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Like I always say, pride and self-defense are great, but evangelism is dumb. I used to be a Mac hater before I realized it was pointless, and I'm pretty impressed with OSX. And if people would quit trying to convince me I need to get a mac, I'd have no problem with Macdom at large. Hell, it'd help if they could give me a reason. I mean, besides "I don't get viruses." Because I don't either. "I never have to reboot." For the most part, I don't either, and when I do, it's to install something. Or to boot into linux...or vice versa. Neverminding the fact that successfully recruiting Windows users on to Mac increases the market share and the incentive for people to write malicious software for that OS...which eliminates the only thing you could come up with as a reason to switch in the first place.
So in keeping with your car analogy, running a PC is like buying a car that's not quite safe for the road. To get it safe for the road you have to buy some aftermarket parts, do some find tuning of the engine management computer, know how the car runs from an engineering point of view and be able to hand build components of the car. Hehe...sounds like a good investment. I'll take my car that runs off the lot without aftermarket parts.
So in keeping with your car analogy, running a PC is like buying a car that's not quite safe for the road. To get it safe for the road you have to buy some aftermarket parts, do some find tuning of the engine management computer, know how the car runs from an engineering point of view and be able to hand build components of the car. Hehe...sounds like a good investment. I'll take my car that runs off the lot without aftermarket parts.
Also a valid point. it's one of the things I run into looking for info on linux, porting of software to windows, etc. I've heard that certain development teams are only going to attract users that don't even want to compile sources to get programs running, much less aid in the development of the software. My response: and? You complain about hardware developers being uncooperative because of Linux's small market share...I wonder where that came from. Mentioning that you wrote a program to do xyz function for security purpose does not help a pro-Windows argument whatsoever for a regular computer user.
Basically, all OSes suck; it's just a matter of what suckitude you're better suited to deal with. Although protecting a Windows PC is not nearly as hard as a lot of people make it.
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in keeping with the car analogy ...
both the Mac and PC are relatively comparable car models, each having pros and cons over the other model. since this is not a discussion about brand evangelism, the make and model of the car are truly irrelevant to this discussion. no matter which brand and model you choose to buy and drive, if you drive your car in places that are well known to harbor both hazardous conditions and unsavory repercussions, you're opening yourself up for problems. no sympathy can be extended to drivers who knowingly and willingly drive into these hazardous areas after having been warned, and AAA won't be sending a mechanic to fix your car
in this case, no matter which car the OP purchased all of the diagnosed problems are self inflicted and a direct result of the OP making poor judgement calls about where to drive their car
R
both the Mac and PC are relatively comparable car models, each having pros and cons over the other model. since this is not a discussion about brand evangelism, the make and model of the car are truly irrelevant to this discussion. no matter which brand and model you choose to buy and drive, if you drive your car in places that are well known to harbor both hazardous conditions and unsavory repercussions, you're opening yourself up for problems. no sympathy can be extended to drivers who knowingly and willingly drive into these hazardous areas after having been warned, and AAA won't be sending a mechanic to fix your car
in this case, no matter which car the OP purchased all of the diagnosed problems are self inflicted and a direct result of the OP making poor judgement calls about where to drive their car
R
john turner
You don't want to do that. Trust me.
So in keeping with your car analogy, running a PC is like buying a car that's not quite safe for the road. To get it safe for the road you have to buy some aftermarket parts, do some find tuning of the engine management computer, know how the car runs from an engineering point of view and be able to hand build components of the car. Hehe...sounds like a good investment. I'll take my car that runs off the lot without aftermarket parts.
no, buying a pc is like buying a car, and then learning how to drive, and being a responsible, sensible, safe driver.
buying a mac is like buying a rail ticket for a trolley car, and following the simple, structured, preordained rail path that's set out before you, and laughing at all those dumb folks who are actually going where -they- want to go instead of the few places on the trolley route that you have access to and can get to.
i've done what i have with my computers because -i wanted to-. it certainly isn't required, but having a slight bit of sense in usage is required with a computer. just like with a car. you can be a bumbling idiot on a trolley car, though.
.The best programas to deal with spyware IMO are:
MRT. It already comes with Window, but its hidden in the System32. Very useful, since it was made by microsoft, it really knows how do deal with spyware that attaches itself hard to windows.
SUPERAntiSpyware.
HijackThis. This one requires some manual working, but it allows you to get to those deep dark places where most spyware hides.
MRT. It already comes with Window, but its hidden in the System32. Very useful, since it was made by microsoft, it really knows how do deal with spyware that attaches itself hard to windows.
SUPERAntiSpyware.
HijackThis. This one requires some manual working, but it allows you to get to those deep dark places where most spyware hides.
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how coincidental that this news article just hit Drudge Report
iPhones-Macintosh computers become apples of hackers' eyes
Security specialists said Saturday that hackers are taking increasing aim at iPhones and Macintosh computers as the hot-selling Apple devices gain popularity worldwide.
Hackers have historically focused devious efforts on computers using Windows operating systems because the Microsoft software has more than 90 percent of the global market, promising evil-doers a wealth of targets
(full story here: http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=080810051102.njhra1ru&show_article=1)
all the best,
R
iPhones-Macintosh computers become apples of hackers' eyes
Security specialists said Saturday that hackers are taking increasing aim at iPhones and Macintosh computers as the hot-selling Apple devices gain popularity worldwide.
Hackers have historically focused devious efforts on computers using Windows operating systems because the Microsoft software has more than 90 percent of the global market, promising evil-doers a wealth of targets
(full story here: http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=080810051102.njhra1ru&show_article=1)
all the best,
R
I have a mac, I love it. I used to have a PC, that was a good computer as well. This mac was just my personal choice for my last computer. I don't get what the big deal is about people talking **** about one or the other. People have different preferences, not everybody has to think like you do. Oh well, I need to go start a religious thread anyway...
The defrag is a myth, as is registry cleaning; but if you really mess it up to begin with you'll have to clean it. The advanced way to do it is to install windows with SP3 integrated into the install disk (use n-lite), with this you can also include all the drivers and programs you'd typically use too. It creates a perfect backup point.
I find hooking up to the net to download SP2 funny. You'll have spyware before the download reaches 10%.
Oh, and speaking of responisble net usage, uTorrent 1.8 came out like this week.
I find hooking up to the net to download SP2 funny. You'll have spyware before the download reaches 10%.
Oh, and speaking of responisble net usage, uTorrent 1.8 came out like this week.
You shouldn't want to write your own programs. Programming only tempts you to break the rules.
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so ROON, you self infect yourself by making really poor choices about where you surf and what you download ... and then you have the nerve to blame others for you reaping the "rewards" of your poor choices?
Did you even read what I said? I said I don't browse any shady websites, I don't download crap from Limewire or other dodgy places. I'm blaming crappy software, not people. Avast sends a million 'virus database' updates a day yet it still lets them come in??? How on earth is it my fault that my computer gets infected when I do nothing but visit TB, eBay and Myspace, and play my video games?
Well I'm glad it's working for someone. Like I said I had Avast running for a year or two, and it seemed to be doing it's job ok. But I'm thinking it was slowly letting crap get into my comp, god knows how, fenderhurtz's "one click gets the ball rolling" theory maybe?
In the last two months my computer has completely bombed it. I did a scan with Avast, deleted what it found, uninstalled it and downloaded the OneCare trial, did a scan with that, found tonnes of stuff that Avast never found and deleted that too. I'm gonna have to keep scanning for a few weeks to pick up anything that has triggered recently or whatever.
I have a mac, I love it. I used to have a PC, that was a good computer as well. This mac was just my personal choice for my last computer. I don't get what the big deal is about people talking **** about one or the other. People have different preferences, not everybody has to think like you do. Oh well, I need to go start a religious thread anyway...
I like PCs, I just really hate the way that they can deteriorate. PCs are a good modding platform, especially for a gamer like myself. But at the moment I'm really just wanting a whole new PC.
3Ghz CPU... eeeewwww.
I use Macs every day at college and I love how easy they are to use. It's just no worries, no firewalls, no virus protection, no defragging. Just hop on and do whatever you wanna do.
I love both systems for different reasons, Macs for all my graphics design work, and PCs for my gaming.
I'm not trying to start a flame war or anything, my first post was a little over the top because I was REALLY pissed because my computer was giving me an especially hard time that night.
Macs don't get viruses/spyware, because hardly anyone makes any for them. Why go after 15-20% of the market when you could go for 80-85%?
The problem with your analogy is that it dances around the obvious point that the trolley car goes exactly where the vast majority of the computer using world wants to go (ie internet and word processing). OTOH your "car" may well be able to go there and other places. Its just a shame that to get there, you have to buy after market software that the original manufacturer neglected to include to allow you to travel safely. Something which the "trolly car" does right out of the box. Sure, the Mac may well be the equivalent of public transport, but the PC is like buying a Smart Car for the purpose of off roading. Sure, it can go where ever you want, but just try taking off road without some modifications and see what really happens in practice!no, buying a pc is like buying a car, and then learning how to drive, and being a responsible, sensible, safe driver.
buying a mac is like buying a rail ticket for a trolley car, and following the simple, structured, preordained rail path that's set out before you, and laughing at all those dumb folks who are actually going where -they- want to go instead of the few places on the trolley route that you have access to and can get to.
i've done what i have with my computers because -i wanted to-. it certainly isn't required, but having a slight bit of sense in usage is required with a computer. just like with a car. you can be a bumbling idiot on a trolley car, though.
You're a step off, since at least my Mac goes where I want it to, and it also has some stuff that's directed towards advance users as well, for example the ability to use unix command line, built-in X11 support etc.
If you want a similar analogy, I suppose you could compare Mac to a fancy German sedan, which you've recently bought to get around in style. You expect it to be stylish, comfortable and reliable and to stand out from the crowd. PC, on the other hand, would be the Bronco you have around for offroading, hauling stuff and such - sure, it does all the stuff the expensive sedan does and more, but it's just not as nice for daily driving, and it usually needs some maintenance knowledge, too.
