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I Love Stingrays, but $7,000?

#361
DirkP said:
Long ago, Ernie Ball said they would never make vintage reissues, then they invented the Classic series. Even when it was entering the market, Ball still said, he does not see sense in vintage reissues.

Long ago, Ernie Ball resisted the trend to make Artist models of basses, including that they didn't pay anyone to play their instruments. So if someone played a Musicman, you knew he had paid for it the same amount of money you would have to...
Then they started to get really innovative and offered copies of Precision basses...

I have a kind of custom made Classic for an artist (weired serial, modern battery compartment and satin finished neck), but when I asked, they refused to tell me the name of the artist. Good old times:)

Maybe they have to makes decisions like that, but it is the Sameness of everything and every one that makes me kind of sad.
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I always thought it was silly to have guitar sig models and not bass sig models. And I'm sure that Sterling's son has some influence over those decisions. And why not? Vintage reissues and sig models sell.
 
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#362
JimmyM said:
I always thought it was silly to have guitar sig models and not bass sig models. And I'm sure that Sterling's son has some influence over those decisions. And why not? Vintage reissues and sig models sell.
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I’ve wondered for a while now why EBMM hadn’t issued signature models for their most known players. You’d think it’d sell quite well. On top of that, why not honor those who made the Stingray a popular bass? Cliff Williams is a great start, but there’s a number of others that would generate a ton of interest.
 
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Are you a CEO who wants to feel like he’s really a rock star’ have bragging rights on Internet forums and be able to convince yourself you’re really charitable?
Well have WE got a bass for YOU!

(Please confirm with your accountant that you can offset this against tax as a charitable donation before purchase as we cannot issue refunds).
 
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#366
Bikeguy57 said:
Wow! I thought the Squire fanboys were bad. The yahoos are out in full force here.
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BatBasstard said:
Are you a CEO who wants to feel like he’s really a rock star’ have bragging rights on Internet forums and be able to convince yourself you’re really charitable?
Well have WE got a bass for YOU!

(Please confirm with your accountant that you can offset this against tax as a charitable donation before purchase as we cannot issue refunds).
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Nebadon2000 said:
I would love to checkout a Forum on Art and it's pricing. My Piccaso print I got on Amazon looks better than the original and is $10,000,000 cheaper.:)
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Don’t feed the trolls please!
 
#369
BatBasstard said:
Are you a CEO who wants to feel like he’s really a rock star’ have bragging rights on Internet forums and be able to convince yourself you’re really charitable?
Well have WE got a bass for YOU!

(Please confirm with your accountant that you can offset this against tax as a charitable donation before purchase as we cannot issue refunds).
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Do you know the person in question? I'm guessing the answer is 'no'. Because you have no idea what you're talking about. Could we discuss the bass?
 
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bovinehost said:
Do you know the person in question? I'm guessing the answer is 'no'. Because you have no idea what you're talking about. Could we discuss the bass?
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On top of them not knowing what they’re talking about is just pure envy.

Why only CEOs? I got one, and I’m no CEO. The other guy getting one on here is in a tribute band as “Cliff”. Even if a CEO got one, who cares?

Bragging rights on Internet forums? Everyone posts their new purchases on TalkBass. Even those who’ve purchased the most inexpensive of gear. Some people like to see the additional photos and hear about others’ experiences with different gear. What’s wrong with that?

Convincing one’s self (or others) that they are charitable? I had myself down for one of these basses before the charity aspect was ever revealed. Plus, I don’t believe anyone getting the bass believes themselves to be altruistic as a result. If anything, EBMM and Cliff Williams deserve all the credit for being charitable.

Man, there are some bitter, envious people here that can only feel “good” about things if they dump all over it. Amazin’!
 
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bovinehost said:
Do you know the person in question? I'm guessing the answer is 'no'. Because you have no idea what you're talking about. Could we discuss the bass?
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The OP is effectively saying “ don’t you think this bass is really overpriced compared to standard Stingray’s?”.

You ask “do I know the person in question?” - What person????
I’m answering the point raised in the OP.

My post was a joke suggesting that Ernie Ball are cynically targeting a certain type of collector with this model and the way they are marketing.

If you want to get angry with me for suggesting EB have a marketing dept and how that marketing department might think - you go ahead.

But the stuff you’re angry with me about? That’s all in your head, not in anything I’ve written.
I think you should reflect why you feel aggrieved by it.

You won’t. You’ll double down and keep coming at me. Again, that will be something you’ve decided not something I’ve invited.
 
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#374
This is one of the stupidest threads I have ever seen here.

There was one similar about Gwizdala's signature bass. It was too expensive, also, to some brilliant minds, here.

But having 10 basses that are the same and cost more than one of these is what?

Having a Mercedes instead of a Fiat is what?

Or a good watch?

It is whatever who buys it wants. The rest is envy.


I see this on bike forums, too.


A bass is not an essential item. It's superfluous, unless you're a pro.

So, how can something that is not imposed on someone be a rip off? Why is a Fodera not a rip off, or a Dingwall, or a Palladino Fender, or a Zon? What's the difference? What's so different about this rare, hand made, signature exclusive bass? Is it because it's from a brand that has cheaper instruments? They can't build special series because they have a mass production? Is that it?


Why buy a 100 or 150 euros (or dollars) pair of snickers, if you can buy a 30 euros pair and you'll be able to walk down the street just the same?



Envy. As old as humanity.
 
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#378
Sam Dingle said:
only 26 made and built perfectly to a vintage one? I can see it. you should see what fender custom shops go for
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Yeah, but they've made other "limited" editions for a lot less than half of that. Even the redwood-topped Stingray (50-100 made?), with 1000-year-old redwood, wasn't that high. :-) And every quarter they have the "BFR" (Ball Family Reserve) run of special, limited instruments, with usually around 30-100 made, at most, and those usually top out at typical custom shop prices (mid-3000s). The extra $$ here must be for the charity.
 
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mjm666 said:
Yeah, but they've made other "limited" editions for a lot less than half of that. Even the redwood-topped Stingray (50-100 made?), with 1000-year-old redwood, wasn't that high. :) And every quarter they have the "BFR" (Ball Family Reserve) run of special, limited instruments, with usually around 30-100 made, at most, and those usually top out at typical custom shop prices (mid-3000s). The extra $$ here must be for the charity.
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It’s limited, it’s a signature model with a signed CoA, it’s an exact replica of a no longer produced Stingray, it has in-depth relic work, and the proceeds go to charity. It’s not just a random limited run.
 
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