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Ibanez Promethean

Played my first gig with this sucker last night. Setup was:

American Jazz Bass
Promethean 1x10 combo
SWR Golight 210 as extension cab

(total 500w @ 4 ohm through 3 x 10s)

Wonderful. Plenty loud and punchy. Super clear. I loved it. If you are anything like me you feel more confident and play better when your gear sounds good...my gear sounded great. Additionally the sound man put TONS of bass in the monitors which I love! So boomy on stage, I was rockin.

But more on the actual amp, its features are great, its sound is great, its WEIGHT AND SIZE is amazing, it was perfect last night. I'm happy.
 
Here's a bit of info which might be useful to anyone who has had an experience with a noisy / underperforming Promethean.

I've done a lot of gigs with mine over the best part of a year, and noise-wise it's been - as near as damn it - dead silent. I love it.

However... as I was plugging in to the amp at a gig a couple of days ago, I noticed the nut around the input jack had worked a little loose. As a result the socket had a bit of a wobble so I instinctively hand-tightened the nut. Presumably, as I did this, the assembly behind the face plate rotated a little too.

Anyway, since then I noticed two things... at the gig, I had to drive the amp a lot harder than I normally did. Secondly, when I used the amp at home afterwards, I noticed it had begun to hiss. Badly. It sounded like junk.

I've just spent some time trying to work out what the problem is, and as part of the troubleshooting I thought I'd hand-turn the nut around the jack counter-clockwise back to where it was.

Bingo! The power & punch is back, and the hiss is gone - night-and-day in a quarter-turn.

So... all I need to do is pop the top off the amp and tighten the nut properly, keeping the assembly stationary.

Could explain the hiss / noise issue a few people have had...? Until I get into the amp, I couldn't begin to explain what's going on behind the scenes, but if I work it out I'll post it here.

Hope this helps!
 
Well, after playing GK amps exclusively for the last 20 years, I decided to go with the Promethean. Here's my story:

I bought my first GK microbass amp (model 200MB) in 1988 used. I heard these amps for the first time in college and loved the sound. It was all I needed at the time. Then about 10 years ago it started blowing fuses. Had it repaired but began blowing fuses again after about a year. So...I bought an MB150S from Musician's Friend. This year I've had some occasions where the 150 was just not enough volume. So I decided to sell the MB150S (and a few other pieces of gear) and buy myself a cab and head. Bought a GK Neo 410 off craigslist. Was in the local music store in my small town and mentioned to the owner that I was looking for a head. He doesn't carry big equipment since it's a small town and has trouble moving bass gear (he's got a used MIM Jazz I'm eyeballing). He shows me this Promethean. Now understand that I've never been an Ibanez fan. I have an Ibanez electric guitar that I like but have never liked their basses. So he loans it to me to try out (like a good salesman). I take it home and was SHOCKED at how good this thing sounded both through the Neo and straight into a board. My wife said it made my playing crisp and clear. So to be fair, I drug out the 150 and the 200MB (I had the older 200MB repaired at another shop and has been running fine). The 150 sounds good but the Promethean really evened out the sound up and down the neck. Big difference. I even plugged the 150 into my neo and it sounded just like the 150, just louder. I also discovered how big a difference there is in sound between the 150 and the older 200MB. In reality, I like the 200MB's sound better. Warmer, not as harsh as the 150.

Not wanting to make a snap decision, I took the Promethean back to give other amps a try.

Then I wound up trading my 150 for a 700RB to a guy on craigslist. The 700RB is a great amp, but it sounded a lot like the 150 but again, just louder. I couldn't get that darn Promethean out of my head. Well, the guy wasn't happy with the 150 so we traded back. I then went to GC and tried the Little Mark and Aguilar. Liked the Little Mark, lots of tonal possibilities but didn't sound as good as the Promethean. The Augilar is, in my opinion, not very versatile. Wanted to try the new GK fusion amps but they were not in stock.

So in the end, I decided to go with the Promethean. Here's the best part of the story...when I took the Promethean home on loan, the owner of the store said I could have the head for half the listed price brand new! He's had it for two years and just can't move it! So...read for this? I got the head AND the bag for $315. Brand new!

So I took the head and the Neo to a men's retreat this weekend. Great combination! I have not been this happy with my sound for a long time. Amp sounded great, I barely had to tweak the settings at all. I agree with others who have commented on the Vibe control, not really a huge difference in sound but it is noticeable. Graphic EQ is great. No issues with a noisy fan, put my hand in front of the fan and never felt any warm air coming out so I may not have been running it that hard.

So I'm going to sell the 150, keep the 200 for times when I don't need the cabinet. I'm also going to keep an eye out for the 1x10 Promethean cabinet. I'm sure the 200 isn't going to last that long!
 
jTemple, cool story.

I have a Promethean too. Bought the combo (1x10) first to try it out, man, who wouldn't love that? I mean the sound is loud and powerful. Had the walls rattling on low volume.

I've since added a 1x10 (Promethean also) ext cab to bring it up to the full 500 watts and a 2x10, and I noticed right away that really improves the sound even more, though I could hardly believe that as great as it was with the 1x10.

I can believe he couldn't move it, which is a shame, because this stuff is GOOD. Very good. I've had their SWX amps in the past and was impressed with those especially for the money but this blows that away.

Not sure why these don't get any love around here, I guess it's more of the snob factor. Doesn't matter though, leaves some great deals for the rest of us - I got my ext cabinet brand new off eBay for less than 250 bucks shipped. When I saw that I couldn't wait to pull the trigger, though I knew no one else was gonna grab it. Like I said, makes me glad!
 
I've had the P5110 for a year and a half with no fault.
Last night, when I turned on the amp, it made some very loud noises. I turned it off. Since then, when I turn it on again, there is no sound and all the lights are flashing.

When inquiring with Ibanez (through Musician's Friend ... excellent service, by the way) I received the response that the phenomenon is known and indicates that the fuse needs to be replaced. But when I checked the fuse, it is perfectly fine.

Did anyone encounter this phenomenon and was able to fix it?
 
My Promethean is now 2 years & 2 months old (As of Dec 2011);

10/29/11: Fan did not come on today. Opened up the unit blew it out with canned air and cleaned the fan thoroughly with Q-tips. Reassembled and fan is working again. (Rocked a big Halloween gig that night, no problems at all).

First problem in two straight years of playing smokey bars six plus times a month. I intend to clean the unit more often than once every two years from this point on. So yes, I would say the amp is reliable.

Still using the Promethean into the Genz NeoX-212, this combo sounds just as awesome now as it did two years ago. Still getting compliments from other musicians on my tone at gigs.
I have no serious GAS at all. ;)
 
I have this same setup Promethean and Neox212 and it sounds good to me as well. I'm not gigging right now but will be soon. I've bought a few amps via the TB classifieds and moved most of them on and have kept the Ibanez. Mine has worked flawlessly. I think it's underated.

Have you ever found you needed more headroom with this setup?
 
Have you ever found you needed more headroom with this setup?

No issues so far. On most of my "standard" bar gigs I'm running bass V wide open. On the amp pre V is at 9:30 & Master V around 10 o'clock. For the two really big rooms I play, stage V stays the same just run a line to the board to keep sound man happy. On outdoor gigs I'll jack the master up to noon/12:30ish and let the PA do all the work. The Genz cab only sounds better when you feed it more juice. :D
 
News on the block is that they are replacing the power sections to a 300W version! New products coming at NAMM. I cant imagine they would downgrade the power...weird.

The 500 watt market is very crowded. It is a lot easier to differentiate in the 300 watt market.

maybe it's a 50/100 watt upgrade (more likely).

Cheers,
Cameron
 
News on the block is that they are replacing the power sections to a 300W version! New products coming at NAMM. I cant imagine they would downgrade the power...weird.

After going through various amps I learned that for me 200W = more than enough for band practice, but not for shows (I don't like to push the amp hard). On the other side, 500W = too much...so ideally I need a 300 - 350W amp. For someone with similar needs, such a move - especially if coupled with a lower price - makes a lot of sense.
 
I can't imagine the price getting much lower than it already is...I think Bassflute is probably correct - the newer model being 300W@ 8ohm and 600W@ 4ohm.

Let's face it, you can never have too much power for bass - the head only weighs 13LB anyway...
 

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