If tone really is in the fingers...

[Matty Koff]

Being able to grasp things in context was something they try to teach us in grade school fellas. Where we also learn the difference between literal and figurative. If it's beyond you to understand something outside of "literally", that's on you. Others have attempted to clue you in.



Each bass has it's own sound.. but all of them sound like Davie.

 

[Frisk Cat]

I'm guessing you meant the opposite.

Wow, you clearly DID NOT understand what I wrote. Perhaps if you read it s l o w e r you might realize that, and I'll write it again....
If - I- picked up RB's guitar WITH HIS set up and up stoked an Em chord, it would sound the same as if HE did it. In other words ,both me doing it and him doing it, tone would sound exactly the same. Don't bother responding, you'll only embarrass yourself.

 

[Brad Johnson]

Wow, you clearly DID NOT understand what I wrote. Perhaps if you read it s l o w e r you might realize that, and I'll write it again....
If - I- picked up RB's guitar WITH HIS set up and up stoked an Em chord, it would sound the same as if HE did it. In other words ,both me doing it and him doing it, tone would sound exactly the same. Don't bother responding, you'll only embarrass yourself.

Oh, you actually believe that. My mistake.


BTW I'm not the least bit embarrassed.

 

[JimmyM]

Being able to grasp things in context was something they try to teach us in grade school fellas. Where we also learn the difference between literal and figurative. If it's beyond you to understand something outside of "literally", that's on you. Others have attempted to clue you in.

Wow, I wish I'd have thought of putting it like that! That cuts to the chase.

Each bass has it's own sound.. but all of them sound like Davie.

Exactly.

 

[JimmyM]

Wow, you clearly DID NOT understand what I wrote. Perhaps if you read it s l o w e r you might realize that, and I'll write it again....
If - I- picked up RB's guitar WITH HIS set up and up stoked an Em chord, it would sound the same as if HE did it. In other words ,both me doing it and him doing it, tone would sound exactly the same. Don't bother responding, you'll only embarrass yourself.

Let's assume you're right, even though I don't agree with you. So what? There's way more to sounding like Ritchie Blackmore than picking up his guitar and hitting an E chord.

 

[nostatic]

Let's assume you're right, even though I don't agree with you. So what? There's way more to sounding like Ritchie Blackmore than picking up his guitar and hitting an E chord.

Yeah, but he said an Em chord. That is a WAAAAAAY different situation. That chord can make you holy again...

 

[JimmyM]

Yeah, but he said an Em chord. That is a WAAAAAAY different situation. That chord can make you holy again...

Only if you're the man on the silver mountain

 

[Texican]

You pointed out that gold hardware pushes the price up. And you keep ignoring that. Funny.

I wasn't ruffled in the least, I disagree with what you wrote and said why without admonishing you. Since you can't seem to handle that, ignore may be your best option. I'll still be here.

You literally quoted me on saying that gold hardware doesn't cost much more, and then your first sentence was yet again proof that you have zero reading comprehension skills. At least this time you didn't ramble on about wood again. I'm not the only person in this thread that has questioned your ability to understand what you read... at a certain point you have to at least consider the possibility that it's you, and not everyone else, that has a problem.

 

[Brad Johnson]

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You literally quoted me on saying that gold hardware doesn't cost much more, and then your first sentence was yet again proof that you have zero reading comprehension skills. At least this time you didn't ramble on about wood again. I'm not the only person in this thread that has questioned your ability to understand what you read... at a certain point you have to at least consider the possibility that it's you, and not everyone else, that has a problem.

You aren't everyone else.


While you're at it with your red marker, who wrote this?:

"But you fail to mention that flamed maple tops with translucent burst finishes, endangered wood species, gold hardware, and other factors can drastically drive up the cost of an instrument without necessarily making it "higher quality", at least in a functional sense".

You keep IGNORING the fact that you said it, among other things, can drastically drive up the cost. YOU are saying that AND that gold hardware doesn't cost much... ignoring what you clearly initially said.

But no, it couldn't be you. Keep digging.


Fortunately I'm not allowed to question reading comprehension on Talkbass as you did. Enjoy your privilege.

 

[Brad Johnson]

Let's assume you're right, even though I don't agree with you. So what? There's way more to sounding like Ritchie Blackmore than picking up his guitar and hitting an E chord.

Clearly you're wrong. That is all there is to sounding like Blackmore. Piece of cake.

 

[Brad Johnson]

But you fail to mention that flamed maple tops with translucent burst finishes, endangered wood species, gold hardware, and other factors can drastically drive up the cost of an instrument without necessarily making it "higher quality", at least in a functional sense.

You'll learn one day.

Ever the optimist.

 

[BlueTalon]

Being able to grasp things in context was something they try to teach us in grade school fellas.

Man, you're old. They haven't taught that in decades.

 

[SLO Surfer]

"Straighten up and fly right" makes no sense. You can't go straight if you're constantly flying to the right.

 

[Texican]

You aren't everyone else.


While you're at it with your red marker, who wrote this?:

"But you fail to mention that flamed maple tops with translucent burst finishes, endangered wood species, gold hardware, and other factors can drastically drive up the cost of an instrument without necessarily making it "higher quality", at least in a functional sense".

You keep IGNORING the fact that you said it, among other things, can drastically drive up the cost. YOU are saying that AND that gold hardware doesn't cost much... ignoring what you clearly initially said.

But no, it couldn't be you. Keep digging.


Fortunately I'm not allowed to question reading comprehension on Talkbass as you did. Enjoy your privilege.

Dude… The overall cost of the entire instrument can be a lot higher than an equally well-built and well sounding instrument that doesn't look as fancy. I'm talking about what the manufacturer might charge for the entire package. For the second time now, because you clearly need it, I will site trim packages on automobiles as an example of this. Sometimes if you want gold hardware without having to swap it yourself, you also have to get the figured top, or the exotic wood, or the crazy paint job. Just like when buying a car; you might want one particular option, but in order to get it you have to also pay for all the other options that come with that higher level trim package. Obviously this isn't the case with every instrument but it can be. Obviously all of this has to be considered within the context of the original post of this thread. There's nothing wrong with paying for any of those things, but they won't necessarily improve your tone even if they do improve your overall satisfaction with the instrument.

 

[Brad Johnson]

Dude… The overall cost of the entire instrument can be a lot higher than an equally well-built and well sounding instrument that doesn't look as fancy. I'm talking about what the manufacturer might charge for the entire package. For the second time now, because you clearly need it, I will site trim packages on automobiles as an example of this. Sometimes if you want gold hardware without having to swap it yourself, you also have to get the figured top, or the exotic wood, or the crazy paint job. Just like when buying a car; you might want one particular option, but in order to get it you have to also pay for all the other options that come with that higher level trim package. Obviously this isn't the case with every instrument but it can be. Obviously all of this has to be considered within the context of the original post of this thread. There's nothing wrong with paying for any of those things, but they won't necessarily improve your tone even if they do improve your overall satisfaction with the instrument.

If gold hardware only came with a package...


By all means "cite" examples of it only being available with an expensive package vs. a simple option.

Trivial components don't push anything up drastically, contrary to what you initially wrote. It's like saying fabric protection helps push the price of a car up drastically. It doesn't. Dude.

 

[4stringfarley]

Gather all the albums (both studio and live versions) of your favorite artist. I guarantee they didnt use the exact same set up every time. There's a fairly well known guitarist on you tube that does gear reviews and in one of his recent FAQ videos answered the commonly asked question "why does it all sound the same?" Once you carve out that tone youve been chasing it can easily be converted to other gear. At the same time if it isnt your preferred setup youre going to pick out nuiances that others cant that you greatly dislike.

 

[MtManiac]

Being able to grasp things in context was something they try to teach us in grade school fellas. Where we also learn the difference between literal and figurative. If it's beyond you to understand something outside of "literally", that's on you. Others have attempted to clue you in.



Each bass has it's own sound.. but all of them sound like Davie.

I like the crap $20 P bass with rusty rounds the best.

 

[JimmyM]

"Straighten up and fly right" makes no sense. You can't go straight if you're constantly flying to the right.

"Straighten up and fly correctly" isn't as good a saying.

 

[chadds]

Obviously if tone was in the fingers the store would be called Finger Center. I rest my case.

 

[Gilmourisgod]

Gather all the albums (both studio and live versions) of your favorite artist. I guarantee they didnt use the exact same set up every time. There's a fairly well known guitarist on you tube that does gear reviews and in one of his recent FAQ videos answered the commonly asked question "why does it all sound the same?" Once you carve out that tone youve been chasing it can easily be converted to other gear. At the same time if it isnt your preferred setup youre going to pick out nuiances that others cant that you greatly dislike.

In the case of my favorite bassist Chris Squire, it's blatantly obvious when he isn't playing a Ric, because... it doesn't sound like a Ric. Geddy is a little harder, his Jazz sounds pretty Ric like, but the Steinberger and Wal he used intermittently didn't sound like either one. Some basses have a really distinctive tone, some don't.