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Kind of cool but I don't know if I like them or not.

I keep seeing ads in BP mag for Stonefield - I have zero interest in this thing. I was just curious if anyone was talking about them on TB - looks like.....no. It appears that it's something that the builder likes, but at the prices of around $4K to $5K, who is he planning to sell to? For starters, it looks like a toy - (as does the bass called Tensor - check them out for a laugh) - but back to Stonefield - the top and bottom horn resembles a RIC, but the bridge side of the body is too small, so it looks pretty strange - input jack is a upside down Strat style jack - huh? - looks strange - fixed bridge / no saddles to adjust, so how do you intonate when you use a different gauge string for example? What else - the volume knob on the upper horn - why? It would get in the way IMO. I don't see how Stonefield or Tensor will become any type of major player in the world of custom basses.

For $4K to $5K, I'd buy a Sadowsky NYC or a MTD - all IMO of course.
 
I keep seeing ads in BP mag for Stonefield - I have zero interest in this thing. I was just curious if anyone was talking about them on TB - looks like.....no. It appears that it's something that the builder likes, but at the prices of around $4K to $5K, who is he planning to sell to? For starters, it looks like a toy - (as does the bass called Tensor - check them out for a laugh) - but back to Stonefield - the top and bottom horn resembles a RIC, but the bridge side of the body is too small, so it looks pretty strange - input jack is a upside down Strat style jack - huh? - looks strange - fixed bridge / no saddles to adjust, so how do you intonate when you use a different gauge string for example? What else - the volume knob on the upper horn - why? It would get in the way IMO. I don't see how Stonefield or Tensor will become any type of major player in the world of custom basses.

For $4K to $5K, I'd buy a Sadowsky NYC or a MTD - all IMO of course.
Hi there bwoodman, it's Tomm Stanley from Stonefield Music. I thought I'd take the opportunity to say hello and clarify any concerns that may be expressed in your post. I'll just move through one point at a time:

Looks like a toy: I can't comment re a person's aesthetic preferences but our instruments are not really all that toy-like. The bodies are a full 2-inches thick and from the 24th fret to the tail are about 3 inches longer that most basses. We weigh in between 8 and 9 pounds and have a generous D profile on the neck. Many players at the London Show in March and Bass Player live just a few weeks ago comment on how substantial they feel compared to most manufactured basses.
Likeness of horns to Ric - I honestly was not copying a Ric but acknowledge that there is a likeness. My upper horn takes inspiration from Maori koru shapes and the waves surrounding us here in New Zealand; the curvature on the lower part of the headstock mirrors that shape as well. At the and of the day, there's only so many shapes you can incorporate into an instrument's horn and inevitably it seems that someone else has been wherever you want to go with it.
Input Jack - It does have the look of an upside down Strat plate but as with our cavity cover plates on the back, we designed them and have them are machined from billet aluminum. The plates all become an integral part of the cavity shielding system. The placement of the jack plate is totally an ergonomic choice: Stand with your bass on a strap; hold the cable jack in your right hand; bring your hand to the lower corner of the instrument; that's where you'll find our jack. No need to reach around and find the input jack and when you put the bass in a stand the cable's not in the way of the stand support.
Bridge - My bridge design takes its inspiration from cello, violin, archtop guitars and other high quality stringed instruments. Players used to the standard steel or brass production bridges found on most basses firstly cannot believe that wood can even be used for a bridge and then marvel at the fact that the intonation is on. The bridge on a Stonefield floats (ie not glued or screwed in any way). To use this style of bridge you intonate the top string and you intonate the bottom string by moving the bridge just the same way you do it on a cello or violin. Intonation on the rest of the strings is so close that normal human hearing cannot detect the variance from what a digital meter might indicate is not quite 100% perfect.
Control knob on the upper horn - That control is a six-way selector for the midrange notch filter. It works in concert with a push-pull on the low frequency roll-off control that is closest to the bridge. You have 10 selectable notches and a bypass. Most players find the one or two that they like and seldom changes the setting, so having the rotary switch on the upper part of the body gets it out of the way and makes it quick to get to when you do want to change the selection. Our unique circuity offers high, mid and low control and is completely passive.
Price point - No Asian labour is involved and the average build time on our M Series is 37.5 hours. I stand by our prices as soundly economic given the features and benefits along with 100% western-economy craftsmanship. Remember too that the price includes our lite flight case. We have just introduced a more affordable C Series (still 100% made in New Zealand) that comes in at about $1500 less than the comparable M Series. The C Series lacks features like the three-piece wooden fingerboard bindings, adjustable floating bridge, the M Series control circuit, hand rubbed oil finishing, and other top-end stuff that you can find on the M Series, while still creating a seriously versatile bass.

I'm happy at any time to field any questions from yourself or other players either here or through the contact email on our website and I appreciate the opportunity to drop in here and respond. Thanks.
 
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Carbon neck etc. Looks fine to me:thumbsup:
 

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Hey @Tomm Stanley what are the average weights of your basses? I took a look at your website and find them interesting though I didn't see anything that would move me to look at them over what I'm already interested in. You say they are deeper I'm thinking you mean in body thickness, correct? If so what in particular do you think that brings to the table? Is the body chambered or semi hollow? The only bass I've played that is deeper shall we say than most other basses that I thought was great was a Skold bass owned by Damien Erskine, it was both deeper and lighter than most and was, I believe, chambered. It played and sounded fantastic. I don't mind deeper but unless it sounds better in some way or significantly different than what I'm using now it's pointless. I actually like the couple of Fender basses I that have with thinner than standard depth, like the P Lyte and RW basses. Sorry if this is a derail but I'd like to know if there is any kind of real innovation here. Oddly enough when I read "Stonefield" I was expecting some sort of real stone incorporated into the design. And Woden bridges and knobs on the upper horn are nothing new, Guild has done that for 4 or 5 decades. It matters not to me.
 
Hey @Tomm Stanley what are the average weights of your basses? I took a look at your website and find them interesting though I didn't see anything that would move me to look at them over what I'm already interested in. You say they are deeper I'm thinking you mean in body thickness, correct? If so what in particular do you think that brings to the table? Is the body chambered or semi hollow? The only bass I've played that is deeper shall we say than most other basses that I thought was great was a Skold bass owned by Damien Erskine, it was both deeper and lighter than most and was, I believe, chambered. It played and sounded fantastic. I don't mind deeper but unless it sounds better in some way or significantly different than what I'm using now it's pointless. I actually like the couple of Fender basses I that have with thinner than standard depth, like the P Lyte and RW basses. Sorry if this is a derail but I'd like to know if there is any kind of real innovation here. Oddly enough when I read "Stonefield" I was expecting some sort of real stone incorporated into the design. And Woden bridges and knobs on the upper horn are nothing new, Guild has done that for 4 or 5 decades. It matters not to me.

Hi Kirk. Not a derail at all with several good questions here.

Re 'deeper' we have a couple of differences to most:

We use a 2 inch (50mm) thick body. I believe that the thickness in the body brings more tonality to the instrument and point to instruments like the Les Paul guitar and PRS McCarty series as thicker instruments with outstanding tonality. We do some minor chambering on the upper portion of the body and are very careful not to interrupt vibrational pathways. Look at the back of our M Series instruments and you'll note the four round cavity covers rather than one big cut out. This allows the entire wood mass to contribute where a single large cavity pretty much takes the whole lower bout out of the equation.

We also use a 3 degree back angle on the neck similar to archtop guitars, violins, etc. That relieves stress on your fretting hand's wrist but also raises the strings as they pass over the surface of the instrument, so we're deeper in this way too. At the bridge our string height is 1 inch(25mm) above the surface of the instrument. For fingerstyle this leads to a very relaxed hand position, for pick players it opens up different angles of attack (and you are less likely to tear up the face of the instrument) and funk players either like the extra space or, as with the Freekbass Signature Model, we have the Funk Plate to close the gap for those that don't.

And while our necks are not particularly thick, we use quite a generous D profile which again allows a bit more wood mass to be present and contribute to the sound.

So we have a very solid tone inherent in the basses and then our electronics let you do what you want with it. For a variety of reasons I've kept it all passive but we still have high mid and low controls and we're 100% shielded, so very quiet. With the single humbucker always in humbucking mode you can go from the thickest fat dub sound to the thinnest nasal tone and never hear an obtrusive buzz.

Our different variants weigh in between 7.5 pounds and 9.5 pounds, so firmly in the middle of the normal expected weight range. The standard hardware on our basses is anodised aluminum, brass and stainless steel. That goes right down to the smallest screws so you can be certain that nothing on a Stonefield will ever rust. The lightest instrument we offer is our four-stringer with the titanium hardware option, the heaviest is the six-string, also with titanium. The titanium hardware takes off about 40 grams per string but does cost an extra $50 per string over the stainless steel. For weight reasons we only offer the six with titanium.

Finally, re the company name: my surname, Stanley, means Stone Field. It can be seen in many forms: Stanley, Stanleigh, Stanfield Stoneleigh, Stonefield, etc. They all hark back to British history when names were related to where you came from and the lore behind mine goes that the first son of prominent families received the primary wealth and lands while the second son was given the less productive stony fields, hence the surname. Third sons received military commissions and fourth sons went to the monastery. No telling what happened to the rest ;o)

I've not gotten the player comments from Bass Player Live loaded on to our website yet but they'll be up in the next week or two. You can see comments from players in London at this page:

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There's a lot in there about the tone and feel of our basses, including the things people thought we could improve, not just some cleaned up promotional version. Warts 'n all as they say.

Thanks for the questions.