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iOS Bass Players Thread #5, V, or cinco, take yer pick.

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Same, no idea what it is and when I'll use it but free is free and once owned in the app store forever owned in the app store ;)

It's a utility app, very useful for moving files from one app to another. Like when you can't open a GB file in MTDAW. Audioshare also allows you to manage zip files in iOS. It's a very useful app, but you won't realize how useful till you need it!
 
Excellent

Now about my interface question :D which is best I have the difficulty of having an iPad 3 (30 pin) and an iPhone 5 (lightning) so to me it seems like iRig or Line 6 is best without me having to buy more and more adaptors and I do like the connectivity of the Line 6 allowing headphones and 1.4inch out at the same time.
 
I missed the contest, but I'm not sure I qualified for it anyways because while I used Multitrack DAW for our album, I also used a mixer and some rack compressors into my interface. Anyhow, let me know what you think of this one song. We still have to lay the leads and vox, so it's just everything else.

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for those curious on the production aspects:

I used a Tascam 2 ch interface. I tracked all the drums live to one channel via a 6 channel Yamaha mixer and some outboard rack comps (kick, snare, toms, and also on the aux return, sending all the drum channels to it except the OH). I used a CAD 4 pack mic kit which I thought sounded pretty good, except there is NO top end on the kick mic. My only complaint is I could not track stereo drums, however the Multitrack reverb does make them sound larger.

Bass went down with a mic and direct on separate channels, both run through the Yamaha mixer. Some slight compression on the mic'd track via the plugin.

Guitars are tracked with two mics and mixed through the yamaha mixer to one channel. Lead track will be shot using the same mic/mixer setup.

Vox will go through a Presonus tube channel.

Haven't decided how I'm going to master. I can do it on Audacity, as their Levellar isn't a terrible plug in. I may also use the master fader compressor on Multitrack. Trying to do it the simplest way.

Thanks for listening and any comments :)

I listened to it, and although its not really my genre, the recording quality was excellent. I can only imagine what kind of VOX will be blasting on top of that.
 
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Yes, the sonic port handling the input (analog to digital) and output (back digital to analog) is a big deal to me too. That was a big reason my art usb dual pre was also very appealing to me the art also has a headphone jack. So not to be dealing with the headphone jack on the iDevice at all for in or out. Though you can still use the headphone out on the iDevice too if you want. But the output conversion frees just a little more processor to do other important tasks. Now seeing the line 6 sonic port with 24bit 48mhz conversion, has made me start to consider purchasing a new interface. Up until now I am running an 8 inch long, 1/4 inch jack, patch cable from the monitor output on the ART to DI/FOH
 
Ok guys, please forgive me for this...I have read alot, but not all of the posts in these threads, and maybe Im having a senior moment but, are any of you guys using these setups live on a regular basis? If so, how do you have these hooked into your bass/amps?

What I want to do is use my iPad with something like Jamup for some effects with some sort of foot stomp like the Griffin stomp. We have several songs in our setlist where I could use a chorus, then another that could use an octave pedal, a funky filter, etc..but not enough to warrant buying $100+ pedals for use on one or two songs.

Again, you guys may have went over this in part one of this megathread, but I couldnt find a particular instance that explained how to do this live with good results.
 
I've actually completely stopped using my amp live. It's sitting in my garage collecting dust!

I use Jamup exclusively now, with an Apogee Jam. From my iPhone 4S I go to a DI box to the PA. I've used it for probably the last dozen or so gigs, and it sounds great every time. I try to change things up from time to time by using a different model, but its always Jamup.
 
Hi Evil, and welcome!

I bet that some of these guys can help you dial in some very nice tones - so stick around and hang on that stuff you got there.

Nice to have a lady joining this thread!

:)

Thanks for the welcome :)

About time you show up here, Mel! ;)

Welcome. Be sure to ask lots of questions, and be prepared to listen to some great music!!

Hey Paul! Nice to see you here!

First of all, welcome Evil Undead,
i dont know your expertise in the subject but allow me to explain this a little...
A real amp with real bass speakers in the room with your bed room practice tone will always sound better to you in the room than a mic'ed cab recorded and listening on headphones like he said apples and oranges.
And putting the output of the iOS device to the ashdown will also be decent but will have to be altered when going to FOH or to a recording because the ashdown's preamp and speakers will color the tone you are sending much more than the headphones or PA.

:) Good luck on getting the recording interface and software and a better than decent mic in a perfect recording studio location with perfect mic placement and out board gear and a perfect mix from the ashdown for the price of both scenarios put together.

The iOS versions are able to give you a tool than allows you to fit your bass tone in the mix of a song super easy that sound like a mic'ed amp and cab.
Will you be able to dial in a "perfect" ashdown tone? Maybe...if you work at it. But unless you are putting it through a good PA like I do through a great hi fi stereo unit that can handle the bass. Then you are going to find it difficult to match a real world, in your room, ashdown. With headphones.
Through a PA (FOH) mix that I can get. Amplitube and jamup do both a fantastic job of a mic'ed amp and cab.

Don't be discouraged. :)
Play with different cabs and mics in AT or other pedals after the amps in jamup. You can find great tones in there that are very, very usable. It all depends on the mix of your output and who you are playing with to dial in a great bass tone.

Heck..... Even John Paul Jones's (or insert your favorite bass player's name here) mic'ed recorded bass sound doesn't sound anything like sitting next to and listening to his bass amp playing in the room live. It's all environment and settings, with the mix. :D

Thanks for the great post!

Sounds to me like you haven't quite gotten your input level set right. It'll sound a bit thin until you find the sweet spot. The slider at the upper right controls this.

Start by tweaking the gain on the Jam until it just barely flashes orange when you hit a string, then pull it back just a hair.

Then, in the slider in the upper right corner, tweak until you just barely get into the yellow when you hit a note.

That should help quite a bit. Also, make sure your device volume is turned up. That will "neuter" your tone quicker than anything.

Thanks dude. I think I need to get some sound clips recorded so you all can hear what I'm hearing.

I've got the Apogee Jam on the way which should arrive by the weekend so I'll get on to that ASAP.
 
So, I used to use Amplitube for the little amount of home recording that I do. I bought the 8-track and a couple of amps, cost me the equivalent of around $80 (including the iRig adaptor).

Then I compared the sound that I was getting with my little 8" Ashdown combo that cost me $110 - the Ashdown was faaaaaaar better. Can't record from that though, with what I have available to me.

So, after reading a load of stuff on how Jamup is a so much better than Amplitube, I bought that, plus the 8-track and a couple of amps. Cost $33 equivalent. And also bought the Apogee jam, equivalent to $113.

And the Ashdown still sounds a hundred times better. I'm so disappointed at having spent nearly $230 on this stuff that I really don't like the sound of.

:(

Ampkit have an Ashdown model, so if you like Ashdown check it out.
First of all, your use the iRig, which is an old device with lots of limitations.
No way the Ashdown can sound better then Jamup. Get the Apogee Jam and run Jamup into your Ashdown through Aux/ effect return or any way which sends your signal strait to the power section of the amp. You little Ashdown will sound much better
 
I've actually completely stopped using my amp live. It's sitting in my garage collecting dust!

I use Jamup exclusively now, with an Apogee Jam. From my iPhone 4S I go to a DI box to the PA. I've used it for probably the last dozen or so gigs, and it sounds great every time. I try to change things up from time to time by using a different model, but its always Jamup.

Ok cool, can you tell me what kind of cable you are using out of your iphone into the DI? A 1/8" to 1/4" or XLR or?
 
Ok cool, can you tell me what kind of cable you are using out of your iphone into the DI? A 1/8" to 1/4" or XLR or?

It's a 1/8" to dual RCA, with 1/4" adapters. The left side goes to my DI.
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I've also run both to a stereo channel on my PA. Single channel to the DI sounds better to me.
 
Had a little idea I've been fiddling with the last couple days. Started the recording today.

This is just a quick clip from a scratch take. I'm thinking that the tempo needs to come up a bit, but the idea is there.

This is the Acoustic 360, along with some extra stuff. Drums are GarageBand. Used Audioshare to open in Multitrack DAW, then added from there.

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Earlier in this thread I saw someone mention that there's an app that enables you to run jamup with another app simultaneously. Or maybe I imagined it. Anyway, I can't find it now - please could someone point me in the right direction?

I have an app called Drum Beats + that I want to jam along with if I can.

If this isn't possible, does anyone know of any drum machine for jamup?
 
Earlier in this thread I saw someone mention that there's an app that enables you to run jamup with another app simultaneously. Or maybe I imagined it. Anyway, I can't find it now - please could someone point me in the right direction?

I have an app called Drum Beats + that I want to jam along with if I can.

If this isn't possible, does anyone know of any drum machine for jamup?

Yeah, that's Audiobus. Read up on it so you know what you're jumping into. It may seem confusing at first, but its not as complicated as it sounds.

Audiobus allows you to route (supporting) apps together. For instance, let's say you love your bass tone in Jamup, and want to record it in GarageBand. That's where Audiobus comes in. It allows you to pick an input, route it through whatever app, then routes it to GB.

Even if you don't think you'll need it, two apps that will definitely help you in iOS are Audiobus and Audioshare. Both have specific uses and really make the iOS music apps work together.
 
Yeah, that's Audiobus. Read up on it so you know what you're jumping into. It may seem confusing at first, but its not as complicated as it sounds.

Audiobus allows you to route (supporting) apps together. For instance, let's say you love your bass tone in Jamup, and want to record it in GarageBand. That's where Audiobus comes in. It allows you to pick an input, route it through whatever app, then routes it to GB.

Even if you don't think you'll need it, two apps that will definitely help you in iOS are Audiobus and Audioshare. Both have specific uses and really make the iOS music apps work together.

That sounds like the sort of thing I want to do. The recording bit of GarageBand is so easy, and it has a drum track creator.

I am going to be very confused though... I'll go take a look and see how much I'll be confused by :D

EDIT: opened the app, confused already. Haha. I may be some time.
 
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