Well I saw them when I flicked past MTV 2 so I guess there relevant. Dont hate on Dragonforce; embrace the cheese (and insane speeds)!
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Ugh.. I have apologized for this. Read the thread before you flame me, especially when I gave a full apology.
I shall answer this question with another question..."who the hell is Dream Theater?" Nuff said.
Dream Theater are okay still, it's just since they've moved to Roadrunner and had that god awful singer from Slipknot guest on the album they have gone downhill.
This IMO is very true. But one thing about Crue and other less technical bands do IMO have something in their music that DT usually lacks. Feelings. JPs solos ...
Dream Theater is evidence to me that technical proficiency does not equal good music. In my opinion they are no more musical than a police siren. Many people I know find them so exciting and interesting but I honestly couldn't be more bored, it doesn't sound heartfelt, it just sounds like a wash of noise to me, and keep in mind this is coming from someone who enjoys noise.
I also felt the need to make mention that Jordan Rudess probably owns hundreds of synthesizers and keyboards but always manages to sound corny.
Personally, I can't stand Dream Theater anymore, their last good album was Octavarium, and that was still the start of, in my opinion, crap records. They are just shred basically now. That's boring. The singer's voice has alwasy pissed me off to lol
i think they're AMZAING. but, there's a point where you gotta stop and re-evaluate whether or not you're actually listening to music. there are bands out there like thought chamber, meshuggah, and Spastic Ink that are even crazier than DT. but from DT onward, you lose the repetition of motives and other melodic devices that make music so memorable. look at Circus Maximus, or Vanden Plas. these bands have much more listenability then DT does now-a-days. the days of shred are, IMO, coming to a close. I have, and quite possibly will always find Dream Theater "relevant." What people may find "underwhelming" or "unimpressive" does not translate to "irrelevant" for Dream Theater. It simply marks a new step in how they approach their music. I could care less if you liked the newest album, it's just wrong to assume that they're being more of the same-old, same-old, because clearly, they're not. Have you ever heard that gothic feel to the songs as you have in A Nightmare to Remember? I know I haven't. No other band I know has been able to maintain its consistent feel AND venture into other genres. From Through Her Eyes to Panic Attack to Home and A Nightmare to Remember, Dream Theater still clearly shines through while exploring other aspects of music. This might be a phase in my rough-and-tumble teenage life, but I'm going to defend it to hell as long as it lasts.
I can't believe you just compared Dream Theater to Dragonforce...
yeah, i agree with this... they've lost their "listenability", if they ever had it in the first placei think they're AMZAING. but, there's a point where you gotta stop and re-evaluate whether or not you're actually listening to music. there are bands out there like thought chamber, meshuggah, and Spastic Ink that are even crazier than DT. but from DT onward, you lose the repetition of motives and other melodic devices that make music so memorable. look at Circus Maximus, or Vanden Plas. these bands have much more listenability then DT does now-a-days. the days of shred are, IMO, coming to a close.
Dude, i used to be EXACTLY like you. nobody could tell me that DT weren't good anymore. but you know, it happens to just about EVERY band on the face of the earth. they get big, they reach an apex of popularity and creative energy, then they... go the same way that Metallica went in the 90's... lol. i think there is MUCH better Prog though out there right now. check out:
Opeth
Porcupine Tree
Blackfield
Protest the Hero
Rush
Yes
Genesis
King Crimson
Pink Floyd
Tool
Pain of Salvation
Puscifer
The Mars Volta
i think all of these bands are just as talented, if not more so, than DT. although, DT is QUITE talented in it's own right.
Yeah. Me too. There's just something about his tone that gets under my skin. Not that he isn't good technically. He reminds me--a bit--of Michael (Miljenko) Matijevic of Steelheart, but Matijevic isn't as annoying. I like the music, though, for the most part.The singer's voice has alwasy pissed me off to lol
Yeah. Me too. There's just something about his tone that gets under my skin. Not that he isn't good technically. He reminds me--a bit--of Michael (Miljenko) Matijevic of Steelheart, but Matijevic isn't as annoying. I like the music, though, for the most part.
The question is flawed as it presupposes they were ever relevant in the first place.![]()
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That`s exactly how I feel about them as well. To me, songs based around a guitarist and keyboardist having constant solo duels while the singer belts mundane vocal lines over a drummer playing poly rhythms is utter crap no matter how technically efficient the players may be. I can respect them for what they do, but I`d much rather listen to AC/DC`s three chords of terror over and over again than listen to DT`s smorgasbord of musical nonsense... This too, coming from a guy who likes some weird music.