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Is global warming fake?

#63
All my years as a climatologist has left me eminently prepared for this very argument. I'll be right with you...













Sorry, had to go start the Suburban & let it warm up for about 45 minutes whilst my family eats baked beans. We enjoy long drives in the country (windows down, leaky A/C cranked) using our chainsaws to destroy saplings... Just doing our part :hiding:
 
#64
Shouldn't we have more respect for the planet we (and our children, grandchildren, etc.) live on regardless??? :confused:

That's like taking care of your body only when it's sick. When it's healthy though? I guess we can poison and torture the crap outta it! :rollno:

If everyone took some steps to proactively take care of the planet we live on, it'd never turn into a political issue in the first place!
 
#65
It seems to me that the ones who scream 'fake' to human influenced global warming are the same people who, for the most part, say 'Intelligent Design' is true:smug:

It's funny how some can blast the scientific method when it suggests something that for some reason goes against their beliefs (in this case, the idea that there is least some human impact on climate change due to the massive increase in carbon emissions over the previous 50 years that might be reduced by possible government regulation of emissions, etc.), but yet accept other 'ideas' based on virtually no scientific data when it fits their belief system (e.g., with intelligent design, that there was a 'supreme being' that started everything, and that supreme being seemed to morph into some sort of 'personally caring god' interacting with humans on a day to day basis).

No wonder most of the world thinks we are idiots:D
 
#67
Is it just me, or does there seem to be more manmade global warming skeptics here than a year or two ago?

A couple comments regarding previous posts:

Yes, some glaciers are melting. And revealing FARMING implements. The northern ice cap is shrinking... but at the same time, the Antarctic ice cap is growing.

Also, cats' and opossums' reproductive cycles are triggered by photocycle, not temperature swings.

The scientific method, unfortunately, is not being applied in this case. I graduated with honors with a biology degree, so I did a LOT of work within the scientific method. I never once heard the term 'consensus' used as a part of it.

Do you know when the warmest year on record was? Not 1998. NASA found an error in their calculations and corrected it... the warmest year on record was actually 1938.

Top 10 warmest years:
1934
1998
1921
2006
1931
1999
1953
1990
1938
1939

Notice that four of the top 10 years of high temp. deviations are from the 1930s and only 3 of the top 10 are from the last 10 years.

Finally, I'd like to see some evidence that humans are causing the concurrent warming trends that are occurring, as we speak, on the rest of the planets in our solar system. Could it be, just maybe, that sun cycles are causing the warming and cooling trends?
 
#68
jsbass said:
How do you know for sure? Haven't we all seen satellite pictures via the mainstream media... catch my drift?
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Ever been to Norway in winter and heard anecdotal evidence from the people who live there about how their lives have changed due to milder winters? I have. That's good enough for me - speaking to the people whose lives have been affected by it is a lot more convincing than pages full of numbers and graphs.
 
#70
KJung said:
It seems to me that the ones who scream 'fake' to human influenced global warming are the same people who, for the most part, say 'Intelligent Design' is true:smug:

It's funny how some can blast the scientific method when it suggests something that for some reason goes against their beliefs (in this case, the idea that there is least some human impact on climate change due to the massive increase in carbon emissions over the previous 50 years that might be reduced by possible government regulation of emissions, etc.), but yet accept other 'ideas' based on virtually no scientific data when it fits their belief system (e.g., with intelligent design, that there was a 'supreme being' that started everything, and that supreme being seemed to morph into some sort of 'personally caring god' interacting with humans on a day to day basis).
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KJung wins the prize. He managed to mix politics, religion and a smug smilie indicating that his opinion is superior. The rest of you can stop posting now.

Mike
 
#71
KJung said:
It seems to me that the ones who scream 'fake' to human influenced global warming are the same people who, for the most part, say 'Intelligent Design' is true:smug:

It's funny how some can blast the scientific method when it suggests something that for some reason goes against their beliefs (in this case, the idea that there is least some human impact on climate change due to the massive increase in carbon emissions over the previous 50 years that might be reduced by possible government regulation of emissions, etc.), but yet accept other 'ideas' based on virtually no scientific data when it fits their belief system (e.g., with intelligent design, that there was a 'supreme being' that started everything, and that supreme being seemed to morph into some sort of 'personally caring god' interacting with humans on a day to day basis).

No wonder most of the world thinks we are idiots:D
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There is a whole thread on this in the Lobby with exactly this theme which I started. I think it turned into a big mess, but you pretty much have summed up the OP right there! :D
 
#73
Why the hell do we need to even have science then? Let's just get rid of it, anecdotal evidence is good enough!

I propose that flies are spontaneously generated from rotten meat. The maggots grow from the meat. I know this because I saw a deer along the road, and as it got old, the maggots appeared.

Also, you can spontaneously generate mice from grain! Just leave a bucket of grain outside, and mice will appear in it!

Yay anecdotal science!
 
#75
Diggler said:
Why the hell do we need to even have science then? Let's just get rid of it, anecdotal evidence is good enough!

I propose that flies are spontaneously generated from rotten meat. The maggots grow from the meat. I know this because I saw a deer along the road, and as it got old, the maggots appeared.

Also, you can spontaneously generate mice from grain! Just leave a bucket of grain outside, and mice will appear in it!

Yay anecdotal science!
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I'm not talking about science. I'm talking about real-life effects. It just so happens that the real-life effects back up the science. That is, the science that confirms global warming, that pretty much the rest of the world other than North America has accepted.
 
#76
Rusty Chainsaw said:
Ever been to Norway in winter and heard anecdotal evidence from the people who live there about how their lives have changed due to milder winters? I have. That's good enough for me - speaking to the people whose lives have been affected by it is a lot more convincing than pages full of numbers and graphs.
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Very true. Have you ever been to South Dakota in the winter and heard the anecdotal evidence from THOSE residents? Nothing short of amazing. Their baby fighting season always starts at the first thaw when the kids still have a lot of winter fat (it helps in certain disciplines). Over the last 20 years, they've had to postpone the first week's bouts due to snow ins at least 6 times. This was plain unheard of during the height of baby matches in the 1970's.

We moved south where year-round training is possible.

Mike
 
#77
Eric618 said:
That's like taking care of your body only when it's sick. When it's healthy though? I guess we can poison and torture the crap outta it! :rollno:
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Eric...I see where you're going but I can't remember the last time I haven't had a beer or a pack or cigarettes. As far as the torture...well, if you grew up being forced to fight in the ring against Oscar, the 48 pound mega-baby who at 13 months could bench press his dad...well, you'd be scared too.
 

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