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is it just me ??? crowds have changed???

One thing to add is, that it isn't so exciting. I and a lot of other friends were at our first music festival when we were 15, and since then on a lot of concerts and festivals. It is pretty hard to get me moving, because I have nearly seen it all

OK, I'll be the old codger to reply this one. I saw the Rolling Stones at Pontiac Silverdome in 1981, I jumped from lower bowl onto main floor and got as close as I could to the stage. About a week and a half ago I was at a local pop punk show, (Basement) moshing, pointing, singing along, and supported a few crowd surfers. Can't count the shows in between, yep seen a few things too in 36 years of shows. I guess (some) old rockers never die. Being active and in the crowd adds an element to enjoying a live performance, otherwise might as well sit at home with a big monitor and watch YouTube.

On the phone topic, when I was at The 1975 last year and they asked people to put away their phones though during one song, I could not slight them. My phone was mostly in my pocket anyway. There is a lot of good current music these days but smartphones and networking is part of life. Not worried, The Kids Are Alright.
 
I was at a wedding last weekend. The DJ was playing a comprehensive assortment of excellent dance music. The crowd LINE DANCED to everything. I believe they would have line danced to a Mozart sonata. I started old school Soul Train dancing wif my date and they looked me as if I had just stepped off a flying saucer proclaiming "Klaatu Barada Nicto."
 
I have an 11 year old, and many friends with tweens, teens--I see how kids view entertainment, etc. etc. these days. As for bands and rock music, they're generally kind of "meh" about it. Heck even with the millennials, being in a band is simply not perceived to be particularly cool anymore.
 
On maybe a slightly off topic note...I wished that I could pull that genre off where I'm from. Good band sir.
I've always liked what we do. It's fun to play and we can sorta pick set lists to play with anlot of different bands. For example we recently played a metalfest and the next show booked everyother band is Christian hard rock stuff
 
I was at a wedding last weekend. The DJ was playing a comprehensive assortment of excellent dance music. The crowd LINE DANCED to everything. I believe they would have line danced to a Mozart sonata. I started old school Soul Train dancing wif my date and they looked me as if I had just stepped off a flying saucer proclaiming "Klaatu Barada Nicto."

Yup, Millenials do EVERYTHING in groups. They don't even date anymore, they just hang out.
 
that right there just about covers all answers to the question then. the older folks arent jumping around and fist pumping through a whole show like they did when they were 20. it just aint gonna happen!

True. Funny--when I was young I was too cool to move. Now that I am a senior--I jump around and thrash and have long hair. I think I am not doing aging right.
 
New stage gear: wi-fi jamming, cell signal jamming. The Feds won't like it, but f'em. :bassist:

Got news. It's a little more serious than the Feds just not liking it. Link Removed what they've already said in the subject.

tl:dr - Can you spell "federal felony" ??? :rollno:

Better not get caught. Easy to do since you'll be on stage in one spot more than long enough for them to tag you doing it. :facepalm:
 
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then there are bands who embrace it, "lemmie see your phones out there! Everyone!"
Then you have the other side, those who have been vehemently opposed to it even before cell phones, i e analog cameras, tape recorders, video camcorders and whatnot. I e messrs Robert Fripp and Keith Jarrett. Mr Jarrett is a piece of work too, because he thinks coughing, or doing noises from the audience is more distracting than anyone texting on their cell phones. Yet he can get so involved on stage, that he makes these noises himself.... talk about "mote and the beam". Beats me. If one doesn't feel comfortable doing gigs, why do them? Sort of self punishment, to get you riled up? But that's slightly OT, and this kind of audience have ALWAYS existed, that isn't there for the concert, but to documentate the concert. There always will be. And today, it's just so much easier. Me myself have a hard time doing both.

I don't think the "Mastodon" thing is the way to go, anyone in the audience who has paid for a ticket has the right to react as they themselves seem fit. That was another thing though, because not everyone (or really anyone) was texting their phones, it just happened to be lame, and chilly afternoon, where everyone was a little subdued by the weather. No cell phone, camera thing going on. If you're really pissed off at is as an artist, I've seen SEVERAL bands in concert who has been working it up, if there was a tough, pathetic crowd, that got their way of having to walk that extra mile on stage, to get a "sleepy" audience up on their legs, just by means of music, and positive vibe on stage. I e the at the reaction from the audience at the end of the concert is totally different that it was at the beginning. You know, the Ian Anderson, Nick Mason thing, that you should as a professional artist try to WOW them if they seem unresponsive at the start. With just music, and onstage enthusiasm. To be able to reach them at the last row... too. You know, job victory as it is called. We should not speak of support acts that has been playing circles around the headliners from time to time. The Kiss mentality can sure come in handy ever so often. But I've seen bands doing this, without onstage antics, and stage props, smoke bombs, lightning flashes and so on. So it's only how passionate, and enthusiastic you are as a performer to try to WOW them off their cell phones. Audience participation is what it's all about.

The thing is about that, it's a catch 22 of some sort. The more onstage props, stage antics, and light effects, as well as demeanor, they have to try to WOW the audience, the more they have reason to pick up their cell phones to make flicks of it. The more boring and dull stage set, the less reason to even take a snapshot of it. So down with their heads they'll go and texting... ;)

a lose lose situation.
 
I am the only one here to feel a far fetched connection with ear plugs <-> audience enthusiasm?

Dimed* levels will not make you jump, as much as loud levels. Louder levels makes your adrenalin going. I use dime in the sense of small amount, as in "turned down levels". Some of you folks uses dime as the exact same thing as cranked. Not me. I don't know the difference of US english or AE in this case. And if everyone uses ear protection to protect themselves, it's domestic listening at home, it has been "elevated" (ha!) to elevator music levels...

*cranked then...;)
 
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I'm English and live in Netherlands and I never met anyone who thought it meant anything other than turned all the way up, except that guy up there.


"Dimed" comes from the US 10 cent coin, meaning that everything is on 10. It means as loud as you can go. The meaning you seem to attach to it is not a common one.

Well, I have heard "small amounts of something". The only other instance is when seeing some crumpet (female) passing by on the street. She's a dime, like 10 cent. But there are 20 cent coins as well...pence and so on. I am sure I never heard dime synonym for cranked. I always use cranked, flat out, maxxed. Mostly I've heard DIME in that regard. Not like in lights, that you DIM them. That's another word. Checked websters urban dictionary and can't find anything of it, but all other explanations of course. No "this one goes to eleven" anywhere. But you always learn something new.

If you're throwing your 2 cents in ... and they say "a penny for your thoughts" who's the one earning a cent? ;)
 
Well, I have heard "small amounts of something". The only other instance is when seeing some crumpet (female) passing by on the street. She's a dime, like 10 cent. But there are 20 cent coins as well...pence and so on. I am sure I never heard dime synonym for cranked. I always use cranked, flat out, maxxed. Mostly I've heard DIME in that regard. Not like in lights, that you DIM them. That's another word. Checked websters urban dictionary and can't find anything of it, but all other explanations of course. No "this one goes to eleven" anywhere. But you always learn something new.

If you're throwing your 2 cents in ... and they say "a penny for your thoughts" who's the one earning a cent? ;)
Yeah "dimed" is an American expression, and I too would use "cranked" in its place, or the impossible to misunderstand "turn it up mate".

Now please excuse me, I need to spend a penny.
 
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