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Is there such a thing as a considerate smoker?

#122
People who complain about smokers outside are pussies. Indoors, I understand totally. I hate cigarette smoke but somebody else smoking isn't that big of a deal to me. I really don't like to see people just discarding their butts on the ground. I really hate the "out the car window" trick, especially when I'm behind them on my Motorcycle
I applaud the no smoking in night club law because as a singer it has certainly prolonged my career.
 
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#125
Lesfunk said:
People who complain about smokers outside are pussies. Indoors, I understand totally. I hate cigarette smoke but somebody else smoking isn't that big of a deal to me. I really don't like to see people just discarding their butts on the ground. I really hate the "out the car window" trick, especially when I'm behind them on my Motorcycle
I applaud the no smoking in night club law because as a singer it has certainly prolonged my career.
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It is when I'm walking with my baby and she coughs. If I have to walk away from a public area that everyone has access to, then it is inconsiderate.

I don't care as much as some people might, and don't say anything when I am outside and someone is around me, but when my baby says "Yucky" and has to breathe it, then I speak up.
 
#131
Wow, this really got out of hand.

People would hate inconsiderate smokers even if they weren't smokers.

Example: How many of you get disgusted when some @!#$@#!$ spits dip all over the sidewalk? Granted, you don't have to breathe dip in, but the littering and the smell of dip is as or more annoying to me. It isn't so much that they are smokers as it is that they are rampant litterers. You could replace pretty much any other habit with cigs so long as they had a bad enough littering track record.

I know some of you hate the smell of smoke (and I'm very much among you), but if they are outside and not near any door or window, I feel like they are doing no harm. The only time I ever consider smokers as inconsiderate is when they flip the butts on the ground when there is an ashtray nearby, or when they exhale that last drag as soon as they walk into a no smoking establishment.
 
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jp58 said:
Wow, this really got out of hand.

People would hate inconsiderate smokers even if they weren't smokers.

Example: How many of you get disgusted when some @!#$@#!$ spits dip all over the sidewalk? Granted, you don't have to breathe dip in, but the littering and the smell of dip is as or more annoying to me. It isn't so much that they are smokers as it is that they are rampant litterers. You could replace pretty much any other habit with cigs so long as they had a bad enough littering track record.

I know some of you hate the smell of smoke (and I'm very much among you), but if they are outside and not near any door or window, I feel like they are doing no harm. The only time I ever consider smokers as inconsiderate is when they flip the butts on the ground when there is an ashtray nearby, or when they exhale that last drag as soon as they walk into a no smoking establishment.
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This somehow reminded me of the smokers at my old apartment building. When they'd smoke outside (right outside, mind you, almost always hiding in the stairwell or the overhang outside of it) I'd have to smell that anytime I'd be walking into/out of my apartment. The worst part about it was though in the summertime when I'd keep some windows open (no AC), they'd be lighting up and the smell would come into my house. Irritated me to no end... only course of action was to close my windows and leave the apartment since it'd then get pretty dang hot. I tried to kindly ask a few of them to go to the actual smoking area, and they were either rude in return, or made empty promises. I think I saw one person move away a few times, but then after a week just kept up their old ways.
 
#134
Question: who dumps more toxic crap into the air - an outdoor smoker, or someone driving a car for pleasurable (i.e. equally non-essential) purposes? Should we ban personal car use for anything other than commuting as well?

We all do things that have negative effects on others. It's easy to criticise people when they do something that you aren't guilty of, much harder to spot your own failings.

(Disclosure: quit smoking 4 years ago, still drive cars for non-business reasons ...)
 
#135
I don't know TOO many people who are still doing a whole lot of just "pleasure" driving with gas prices the way they are. But I think it's pretty obvious which puts out more fumes in general. But the person out driving for pleasure isn't driving inside my house... I don't smell their exhaust hours after they leave, nor do I smell exhaust outside after they drive away (not the same can be said about cigarette smoke - it lingers and sticks to everything). A person can go on and on with the differences between a car being driven for any reason and a person smoking inconsiderately.
 
#136
Ray Salamon said:
This somehow reminded me of the smokers at my old apartment building. When they'd smoke outside (right outside, mind you, almost always hiding in the stairwell or the overhang outside of it) I'd have to smell that anytime I'd be walking into/out of my apartment. The worst part about it was though in the summertime when I'd keep some windows open (no AC), they'd be lighting up and the smell would come into my house. Irritated me to no end... only course of action was to close my windows and leave the apartment since it'd then get pretty dang hot. I tried to kindly ask a few of them to go to the actual smoking area, and they were either rude in return, or made empty promises. I think I saw one person move away a few times, but then after a week just kept up their old ways.
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A friend of mine is actually selling his condo because he has smokers on either side of him and he gets their smoke into his place on a regular basis. He is one of those people who always has his windows open as he likes lots fresh air... he is beyond frustrated.
 
#138
Eric Albany said:
I wasn't talking bout one race. Also, any one could have crabs, it isn't limited to Asians. Some of the Nam veterans know what I'm talking about. No disrespect intended. Most of the men in my family have been in the military including 2 of my uncles, one of which died from the cancer caused by Agent Orange. From what I've heard, he was the bravest Marine in his platoon. Annnny waaaayssss. Can't crabs be "cured" ? I mean, they're parasites. They can be killed.
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Best killed with an ice pick.
 
#139
::::BASSIST:::: said:
A friend of mine is actually selling his condo because he has smokers on either side of him and he gets their smoke into his place on a regular basis. He is one of those people who always has his windows open as he likes lots fresh air... he is beyond frustrated.
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Yup. Thing that surprised me the first few times it happened was that I was on the 3rd floor, and the smokers at least did go to the ground level to smoke. Even still, it came right into my apartment. I realize that they have their vices (don't we all), but it was just irritating, especially how some of them had a "it's outside I can do whatever I want" attitude about it, even though I was trying to be cordial and nice about it. I contemplated talking to the apartment managers about it, but that with other factors pointed me to moving to another place. Luckily, here, there are no smokers around, so I don't have to deal with it.

I should probably point out that I on occasion like to take in a good cigar. Probably about once a month, total (edit: actually, the more I think about it, it's less than that. Maybe once every 2 months). However, since I know personally how much the smell and such can be a bother, I try not to bother others with it at all. I go as far away from the entire complex and other people that I can while smoking if I'm here - though usually it's at a friend's house, who also enjoy cigars, and actually got me re-started with them :P
 
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Ray Salamon said:
Yup. Thing that surprised me the first few times it happened was that I was on the 3rd floor, and the smokers at least did go to the ground level to smoke. Even still, it came right into my apartment. I realize that they have their vices (don't we all), but it was just irritating, especially how some of them had a "it's outside I can do whatever I want" attitude about it, even though I was trying to be cordial and nice about it. I contemplated talking to the apartment managers about it, but that with other factors pointed me to moving to another place. Luckily, here, there are no smokers around, so I don't have to deal with it.

I should probably point out that I on occasion like to take in a good cigar. Probably about once a month, total (edit: actually, the more I think about it, it's less than that. Maybe once every 2 months). However, since I know personally how much the smell and such can be a bother, I try not to bother others with it at all. I go as far away from the entire complex and other people that I can while smoking if I'm here - though usually it's at a friend's house, who also enjoy cigars, and actually got me re-started with them :P
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I would venture to say, having been a smoker for many years, most of the smokers that I met were as considerate with their cigarette smoking as you are with your cigar smoking. And, yes you are officially a smoker. Friends who still smoke always ask me if it is OK to smoke near or in front of me. They don't automatically assume it to be OK. Polite and considerate people do exist in abundance, it's just easier to focus on the few that are not. JMO
 

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