Joe dart .. Ernie ball jazz !

[Dragan]

Are the pickups positioned in 60's /70's position or elsewhere?

It's a 2022 position

 

[Lownote38]

I think that this bass is a big step backwards compared to the previous Joe Dart models. Let me explain. The original Joe Dart model had a single volume control and no tone control. It was great to see Music Man stick it to the Capacitor Consortium, but I had a hunch that they were in the pocket of the Potentiometer Patriarchy.... looks like I was right. Now, we saw some major progress with the short scale Joe Dart. Moving from a single control to no controls makes sense and is forward thinking. But with these new model, we're left with major control clutter. Seriously! How am I supposed to know what the heck all of this stuff does!? Do you know what would have been progress? NEGATIVE KNOBS! It's the only logical progression. 1 knob -> 0 knobs -> -1 knobs. Think about it.

They could remove the output jack, or one of the strings!

 

[neddyrow]

Probably on ebay, Reverb, AliExpress, or somewhere like that. As someone already said, they're copies of old RCA knobs, probably find them for a couple of bucks each.

Here you go, just Googled them, $1.85 each, they come in black and a sort of plum color too. (amplifierparts.com)

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Hate to be the actually guy but, its - amplifiedparts.com

thanks the tip! I ordered one to make my version look better.

 

[Kalsarikannit]

There's the Joe Dart bass and then there is this.

 

[Madcity Fats]

...just like every other stringed instrument ever created.

Well then I must be doing something wrong because not all my electric basses sound the same.

We're not all orchestra players, for crud's sake. Jamerson used his tone knob, so that's good enough endorsement for me. You do you.

 

[SteveCS]

Well then I must be doing something wrong because not all my electric basses sound the same.

We're not all orchestra players, for crud's sake. Jamerson used his tone knob, so that's good enough endorsement for me. You do you.

Missing the point entirely, which is the inference in the sales blurb that controlling tone through technique is somehow special, unique or revolutionary to the Dart basses or even a special talent of JD himself, not that the tone control has no purpose - of course it does. My personal view is that removing tone control is plain daft, but there are only 23/100 left so it must have some appeal...

 

[cnltb]

Well then I must be doing something wrong because not all my electric basses sound the same.

We're not all orchestra players, for crud's sake. Jamerson used his tone knob, so that's good enough endorsement for me. You do you.

...and what jamerson did is relevant here because...?

 

[DJ Bebop]

Haha. Your link is a thread posted 14 minutes after this thread.

And they both have the same number of posts.
Well this one has one more now.

 

[Lesfunk]

Well, I personally think the minimalist Dart basses look very cool, lightweight and playable.
Unfortunately , In order to get what I want as far as a useable bass for me, I would have to modify the hell out of it.

 

[tb-player]

And they both have the same number of posts.
Well this one has one more now.

I'm surprised a mod didn't combine them. That's usually the case for closely posted, similar threads. Oh well. The new Joe Dart has 2 pickups. Poetic that it would have 2 concurrent threads...lol.

 

[Space Pickle]

And they both have the same number of posts.
Well this one has one more now.

it's the joe dart 2 thread 2

 

[Madcity Fats]

Missing the point entirely, which is the inference in the sales blurb that controlling tone through technique is somehow special, unique or revolutionary to the Dart basses or even a special talent of JD himself, not that the tone control has no purpose - of course it does. My personal view is that removing tone control is plain daft, but there are only 23/100 left so it must have some appeal...

Ah, I dig it. Sorry. Inflection is everything. Also I have COVID brain. No lie.

 

[BadSanta1281]

The cool thing is that if you don't want a Joe Dart signature bass it's perfectly okay not to buy one.

They're almost sold out anyway, so Ernie Ball doesn't care.

 

[DJ Bebop]

Missing the point entirely, which is the inference in the sales blurb that controlling tone through technique is somehow special, unique or revolutionary to the Dart basses or even a special talent of JD himself, not that the tone control has no purpose - of course it does. My personal view is that removing tone control is plain daft, but there are only 23/100 left so it must have some appeal...

My "number one" has no tone control but it does have phase switches and three pickups. That's its tone control, blending pickups.

 

[SteveCS]

Ah, I dig it. Sorry. Inflection is everything. Also I have COVID brain. No lie.

No worries. I had Covid back in September last year, so you have my fullest sympathy. It is no joke when it hits hard - hope you get well soon.

 

[Gizmot]

Perhaps, but it's probably not that simple. Especially given the last 2 years with the covid restrictions limiting the amount of instruments that they can produce. They could lower there prices in an effort to sell a higher volume but then they'd have to likely make pretty significant investments into their production facility as well as hire more people. I'm not sure if there are still restrictions in California but from what I had heard, through much of the pandemic companies in California were struggling to produce up to regular capacity due to restrictions to the number of staff and having to distance them.

I think they could increase production and really grow their brand if they make some smart product decisions. In general, they don't need to lower the price on the U.S.. made StingRay family, but they need to introduce some models below that with fewer features that are priced right. If Fender and G&L can build instruments in high-cost California, there are no reasons why EBMM can't.

 

[Honkey tonk]

My "number one" has no tone control but it does have phase switches and three pickups. That's its tone control, blending pickups.

Nice

 

[BigBluez]

for those of you complaining about the price, just make your own. I did. And to my own specs. and its not a one trick pony.
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If only I had your skills! Do you make them for sale? Looks awesome.

 

[Wood and Wire]

The Joe Dart and the Dark Ray, etc. aren’t doing that - those are simply small variations of StringRays. They need things like the Caprice that are priced right and also some premium models that give players real choices and also offer something different to get customers to buy more than one.

But that's exactly the point that EBMM made : due to Covid / global supply disruption, they're just sticking to StingRay Specials at the moment (which is fundamentally what the Tim C, DarkRay, Joe Dart shortie, and BFRs have been based on).

This Joe Dart 2 is actually a Caprice, but with two of the inline humbucker pickups (instead of the split humbucker in the neck position), and different branding on the headstock.

This actually gives me hope that we may, at some point in the future, see a version of the Caprice return to the fold.

Unfortunately, it seems that no matter what EBMM try to do, and no matter what their customers claim they want, when it comes to ponying up the cash, the only bass that sells reliably is the StingRay.

Hopefully when the world rights itself, they will think about doing periodic runs of Cutlass, Caprice, and Sabre basses (it really grinds my gears that I was holding out for a Cutlass in tobacco burst & maple fretboard, when the bass got discontinued - but the Cutlass guitar is still available, in that configuration).

There are other things I'd like to see too, but they run a tight ship, and have a much better idea of the realities of their business than any of us do.

 

[Hambone70]

for those of you complaining about the price, just make your own. I did. And to my own specs. and its not a one trick pony.
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Yeah, but you haven't included the Limited Edition Numbered Neck Plate and Certificate Signed by Joe Dart.