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Jon Reshard, the Next Jaco??

Originally posted by Peter Parker


I have read nowhere in this thread where anyone suggests music is a competition. Nor did I see any chest-beating.
I agree, music is not a competition, but it seems to me to be more about freak shows and acrobatics. Everyone is so hung up about how something is getting played and by what bass that they've stopped listening to the music. That's what disgusts me.
Oh please. You yourself are bruised as from going on an on about your supposedly amazing playing. Give it up - if a 17 year old aspiring virtuoso can inspire such insecurity in so many bassists, there's something to be said for 'listening to the music'. Music isn't a competition and as such there are no rules, either - everything has it's place, right? 'Freak shows', 'acrobatics' ... the bass community needs to stop being so hypocritical by bashing kids over the head with the 'play-one-whole-note-per-measure-to-be-a-good-bassist' mentality whilst alternatively lauding the genius of Pastorius, Miller, Wooty, etc.
Your spider-sense is way off.
 
nah, its possible to give an opinion about something and not be threatened or feel insecure. i see the same thing when someone says they think 7/8/9 string basses are silly. seconds later, someone will post that they are just threatened by the instruments. there's no envy, they just probably genuinely think the harps and super thumbs are lame.

oh yeah, nothing to suppose. scott can play.
 
Originally posted by lamarjones


Sometimes I roll up here and hear all the bashing of this and that, there is a lot of 'player hating' vibe that goes on. But then again, there are many ridiculous comparisons.

You know, over 50% of accomplished musicians always speak as if they are comparing other people's playing to the 'perfect player'. The other people usually are the ones I like better. They are easier to talk to, and I find their playing speaks more to me.

2 examples, Manring and Oteil. Humble monsters. The rest that have attitudes, bye!

I'm with you 100%;)
BTW I think that Wrong Robot is the next John Reshard, he just have to practice a lot more;)
 
Originally posted by *ToNeS*

Oh please. You yourself are bruised as from going on an on about your supposedly amazing playing. Give it up - if a 17 year old aspiring virtuoso can inspire such insecurity in so many bassists, there's something to be said for 'listening to the music'. Music isn't a competition and as such there are no rules, either - everything has it's place, right? 'Freak shows', 'acrobatics' ... the bass community needs to stop being so hypocritical by bashing kids over the head with the 'play-one-whole-note-per-measure-to-be-a-good-bassist' mentality whilst alternatively lauding the genius of Pastorius, Miller, Wooty, etc.
Your spider-sense is way off.

I don't think you read and understood my earlier posts. I said I had a lot of chops but so what. I'm not saying anything with my playing that hasn't been said. I don't have that thing that sets apart people like Jaco and the rest. jaco wasn't great because he had great technique. He was great because he was able to pour such emotion into every note and do it in such a way that no one has before. It was icing on the cake that he could technically play so well. I'm not an advocate of the play one whole note camp. My bass lines tend to be busy but they don't bust up the groove. I like players who can play fast and do crazy things if I can pick up some sort of emotion from it. Most of the guys out today seem like they're going through the motions and doing all the tricks but not saying a damn thing. Victor will even tell you he has fallen victim to this mentality.
 
Originally posted by narud
nah, its possible to give an opinion about something and not be threatened or feel insecure. i see the same thing when someone says they think 7/8/9 string basses are silly. seconds later, someone will post that they are just threatened by the instruments. there's no envy, they just probably genuinely think the harps and super thumbs are lame.
I agree. Everybody likes to think that everyone's opinion is welcome here until someone says something that goes against the grain.

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oh yeah, nothing to suppose. scott can play.
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Thank you, Joe. Let me say again that I liked what I've heard of your tunes over at the Fodera group. I really would like to hear more as it sounds like some cool **** that seems to be written beyond your age. (That's a compliment;) )
 
Originally posted by Wrong Robot
I think Peter Parker hasn't heard Victor play with the flecktones, tell me his playing in that band lacks soul, just try it....I dare you. :p

I never said his playing lacked soul, just sometimes;) I do prefer him with the 'Tones than in any other situation. He seems to play better when he's playing other people's music.
 
Originally posted by mcbassdude

Why get your feathers ruffled over people having a freindly discourse about a player?
I love music and I love talking about music. I also love to hear new people doing their thang. I don't "worry" about what other people are doing but I certainly don't close my ears to what others have to offer. My musical education has not atopped. I am always open to what others have to offer.
I even tried to sample your music John, but I couldn't get the songs to download from your page. I'll try again.
Your "Who Cares" just seems so condescending to those engaged in this discussion. Maybe it was jsut a bad day?
Would you care if the discussion was about you?
No offense met, so please take none.
Peace

no offense taken, and my feathers aren't ruffled. the "who cares" comment is more directed at the nature of these conversations - "he's the next jaco" - "no he isn't". who cares? how is this exchange of information helping anyone improve as a player? _that's_ why i come to this site.

Originally posted by mcbassdude

I don't think the original post was boasting or chest beating. I think he was excited by something he had heard and wanted to share his find with all of you. Peep's made him out to be a fool because he thinks this kids got talent or compared him to Jaco. They couldn't wait to prove him wrong. Where's the love?

now who's feathers are ruffled? ;) seems like we're saying the same thing.
 
While we wait for the decision on wether Wooten makes you cream or scream may I offer one more freakishly good bassist doing Donna Lee?

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This is my opinion of chops and style. Listen to some of the walking lines on the site also, in many ways I find the walking more impressive... kinda ;)
 
Originally posted by Wrong Robot
Checking out that Sean malone guy...he is good, I really dig this stuff.

He certainly has Jacos tone, and playing style....however, he looked so emotionless in that video, like, I don't know, I like seeing cats really diggin in and feelin it, maybe he was, and he just shows it in a different way.

Back to the woodshed for me :Eek:

Well you know, that *was* a warmup. And he's definitely getting into it at some point. But I'm not sure how that matters - I've never seen him play bass live, I love the music - if I saw him play and he sat there "lifeless" would it diminish that? I don't think so.

Also, that's actually Gary Willis' technique he's using. As for the style - big Jaco influence for sure, but musically I think he's got a style all his own.
 
Originally posted by geshel


Well you know, that *was* a warmup. And he's definitely getting into it at some point. But I'm not sure how that matters - I've never seen him play bass live, I love the music - if I saw him play and he sat there "lifeless" would it diminish that? I don't think so.

Also, that's actually Gary Willis' technique he's using. As for the style - big Jaco influence for sure, but musically I think he's got a style all his own.

You mean the right hand technique?
Well as for the emotion... some players feel things different than others... From all live performances of Sean I've seen he's more of a quiet guy who just is focussed in playing. He does not move much :) As for the fingers... well... judge for yourselves! :D
 
Originally posted by geshel


Yep. I've thought about learning GW's technique, at least it's a technique you know? The only real RH one I've seen for electric bass. But it scares me a bit :)

Not true. There are loads of right hand techniques.
Two finger picking
Three finger (alternating) which can be 1,2,3,2 or 3,2,1,2 (order for groups of four notes course)
GW technique which is a bit different from the 'standard' 3 finger technique.
And many others...

I think that Billy Sheehan goes over his 3 finger technique in a instructional video.
So does Myung, Pastorius... well go see 'em :p

As for Sean Malone, I read in the "Bassists of death" that:
Direct Link to <a href="http://medieteknik.bth.se/joba01/bass2.html#sean" target="_blank">Sean Malone's article</a>

Since Sean have played a vast amount of genres he relies upon playing with 2 fingers since the speed he get is still incredibly and his accuracy is flawless.
(...)
When watching Sean play you can see how "easy" it looks since he plays with incredible technique that spares the hands allot of unnecessary work, this allows him to play amazing solos at incredible speed and with high accuracy.

Dunno which one of you is right...
 
:confused: Just watch the video. Looks a lot like GW's technique to me. Couple that with the fact he's playing a GW bass, and thanks GW on his albums. I guess I'm assuming based on that. Seems like I remember him writing on his site about re-learning bass using that technique a few years ago (the article you quote might just be from before that time), but I'm not sure.
 
Wow, I kinda regret making this topic now. It just seemed to bring out the worst in people, I don't know why but it did. Maybe it was the fact that I compared this kid to a Bass god, or maybe its just that people jump on any opprotunity to argue about the most asinine topics. Although only a few people IMO really brought this thread down (Im not going to say names, you know who you are), They really created a negative aura that really ruined this thread again IMO. If people will continue to call eachother names, create asinine arguments, and just post plain dumb crap. I'll have no choice but to just delete this thread. Peace