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Jule Amps Monique part 5

Now I'm more confused than ever:

I was using the XLR out of Monique into the line in of my Quilter in order to bypass the Quilter's preamp

Would it be better to use the line out of Monique into the instrument in of the Quilter?

When using Monique's XLR out, it's logical that the line level knob has no effect. But I didn't know you can still pull this knob and get a boost. How comes? Is it pre or post?

Off course, like always, "use your ears and do what's best for you". That's what I've been doing and it always sounds great.

But I'm the kind of person who needs to understand, "just because"...

Jule, could you share a diagram?
 
Now I'm more confused than ever:

I was using the XLR out of Monique into the line in of my Quilter in order to bypass the Quilter's preamp

Would it be better to use the line out of Monique into the instrument in of the Quilter?

When using Monique's XLR out, it's logical that the line level knob has no effect. But I didn't know you can still pull this knob and get a boost. How comes? Is it pre or post?

Off course, like always, "use your ears and do what's best for you". That's what I've been doing and it always sounds great.

But I'm the kind of person who needs to understand, "just because"...

Jule, could you share a diagram?

"
Monique has a built in option to increase the the Line Out level from the original maximum
output level of 0db (.775 volts) to more than +4db (1.44 volts). To add the additional 4db to
both the Line Output and the Balanced XLR Output just pull out the Line Out knob
. Pushed in,
Monique is exactly at the original 0db (.775 volt) levels.
"
As for the Quilter, I find that its preamp can also bring a little bit of magic with some sweeping of the input gain (and it also provides for quick EQ corrections in a different way than Monique) - I find the amp input a bit more sterile.
 
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Now I'm more confused than ever:

I was using the XLR out of Monique into the line in of my Quilter in order to bypass the Quilter's preamp

Would it be better to use the line out of Monique into the instrument in of the Quilter?

When using Monique's XLR out, it's logical that the line level knob has no effect. But I didn't know you can still pull this knob and get a boost. How comes? Is it pre or post?

Off course, like always, "use your ears and do what's best for you". That's what I've been doing and it always sounds great.

But I'm the kind of person who needs to understand, "just because"...

Jule, could you share a diagram?

I use the line out for my bass amp, both into the input or the effects return. You can try both and see what you prefer. I also use the line out to drive a powered Bergantino IP112.
The XLR out is a mic level output that you can send to a mixing board or mic pre for recording.

I happen to have an Acoustic image amp that does have a mic input so I can use the XLR live if I wanted to but most folks do not.
 
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As for the Quilter, I find that its preamp can also bring a little bit of magic with some sweeping of the input gain (and it also provides for quick EQ corrections in a different way than Monique) - I find the amp input a bit more sterile.

I use the line out for my bass amp, both into the input or the effects return. You can try both and see what you prefer. I also use the line out to drive a powered Bergantino IP112.
The XLR out is a mic level output that you can send to a mixing board or mic pre for recording.

I happen to have an Acoustic image amp that does have a mic input so I can use the XLR live if I wanted to but most folks do not.

Yes, obviously, thank you! I was so stupid... For some reason I thought "since I have a XLR out on the Monique and an XLR in on the amp, it should sound better than line out -> instrument in". I just spent some using the line out into the amp's input, it offers much more tonal options. At first I found it was complicated to play with 3 knobs + 2 pull switch positions, but I quickly understood it offers endless tonal possibilities. Thanks.
 
Glad to help.
The DI out (Cinemag Transformer) is truly 600 ohms impedance and primarily responsible for the gorgeous-oscity of the Balanced Out tone.

I think "gorgeous-oscity" nails it on the head. I too keep it on the cleaner/less wooly side of things but that doesn't detract from the weight and slam the Monique delivers all day.

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Question for Jule - those of us with a tardis (and perhaps other Jule power amps) are not supposed to pull out the line out, correct? I seem to recall reading that the amp was designed for the ‘normal’ line out.
Answer is to give it a try. You won't hurt anything. It also has nothing to do with which version of Monique you are playing. What happened was the first few did not have that push/pull gain feature. The feature came a bit later.
 
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Try it...IMHO, it sounds great. Pull the control and then turn it down.

AFAIK my amp is the latest version of the Monique 700 (rack). I prefer both Sensitivity and Line Out in the out position.
Exactly.
 
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I think it changes input impedance as well - and varies the amount and type of magic (at least that’s the explanation that works for me!).
You are right.

The technical bits are boring, but Sensitivity does a bit of pick attack adjustment. Changes how the front end reacts. That opens up a lot of possibilities. There is no describing it. My advice is to turn it full sweep and see if you like something. :D

The idea was not mine originally. The idea came from Mark Sampson and some of his early development of a Bass Amp for Matchless - probably before everyone but me was born.

If I remember correctly, very few of those got into the hands of players. Maybe less than 10.

Mark is the most inventive, bright, tube guy on the planet. All the rest of us are just fumbling along. :cool:
 
You are right.

The technical bits are boring, but Sensitivity does a bit of pick attack adjustment. Changes how the front end reacts. That opens up a lot of possibilities. There is no describing it. My advice is to turn it full sweep and see if you like something. :D

The idea was not mine originally. The idea came from Mark Sampson and some of his early development of a Bass Amp for Matchless - probably before everyone but me was born.

If I remember correctly, very few of those got into the hands of players. Maybe less than 10.

Mark is the most inventive, bright, tube guy on the planet. All the rest of us are just fumbling along. :cool:
You are hardly fumbling, my brother! You are plowing through the defense and scoring some touchdowns :D
 
You are right.

The technical bits are boring, but Sensitivity does a bit of pick attack adjustment. Changes how the front end reacts. That opens up a lot of possibilities. There is no describing it. My advice is to turn it full sweep and see if you like something. :D

The idea was not mine originally. The idea came from Mark Sampson and some of his early development of a Bass Amp for Matchless - probably before everyone but me was born.

If I remember correctly, very few of those got into the hands of players. Maybe less than 10.

Mark is the most inventive, bright, tube guy on the planet. All the rest of us are just fumbling along. :cool:

Pretty sure I own one of the amps you are referring to. Don't sell yourself short. The Monique 700 sounds every bit as good IMHO.
 
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