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Labella Jamerson 0760M: Review and Comparison

Discussion in 'Strings [BG]' started by fourstringdrums, Jul 15, 2008.


  1. fourstringdrums

    fourstringdrums Decidedly Indecisive Supporting Member

    Oct 20, 2002
    Massachusetts
    After trying Labella 760FS (45-65-85-105), 760FL (43-60-82-104), and Fender 760ML (50-65-85-100)'s I was none too satisfied.

    First, The Labella FS set is very nice. Dark, thumpy, and with some nice tension. I don't think if you're starting out on flats you can go wrong with this set. People talk about flats having higher tension, but I don't see making the switch with this set to be a problem. For most it will be a quick adjustment. Unfortunately, at the time I got my new bass, JustStrings (they're in NH, I'm in MA, so I always use them) was all out, so I went with the Labella FL set. It's not bad, but I honestly felt like the set was out of balance a bit. The D (.60) seemed light and zingy sounding compared to the E & A and the G (.43) while fine with those two, was dead and lifeless against the D. I looked around and read up that it just takes time for them to break in. The FS's always sounded great out of the pack, so I wasn't convinced. To give credit to this set though, they are just as thumpy sounding as the FS's, only a little lighter with of course less tension. I have no doubt that once broken in they'll sound great, but I'm impatient. I don't play enough to break in strings quickly and I don't want to wait a year for them to sound good at my rate.

    Up next was the Fender 760FL set because 1) My store had them in stock 2) They were medium gauge with the exception of a .100 E and a .50 G. The heavier G was nice, and of course I had no problem with the standard gauge A & D. But, in the end, the E was too light at .100. Compared to the first two Labella sets, the Fenders are just a tad punchier and darker. By comparison, the Labellas do have a tiny bit of zing, but IMO, nothing to concern yourself with. Tension is good as well. I'd say this set is equal in tension to the Labella 760FS set.

    I'm a huge Jamerson and Bruce Thomas fan, so I want a big, deep sound, with a decent amount of mid range. Not being happy with the last two sets of flats and already knowing what the Labella FS set was like, I wanted to try something different. It wasn't a surprise to me that I loved both James and Bruce's tones so much and they both used heavy guage strings (although Bruce used Rounds). So I decided to get the Labella Jamerson 0760M set. I was a bit nervous after reading reviews on here because of such phrases as "High Tension", "Bridge Cables", "Steel Bars", and "Major Neck Adjustment". But I bit the bullet anyway.

    So I ordered a set of JustStrings and got them the very next day after shipping. They beat their old average by one day, very nice :) At this point I just have them on, stretched by hand a bit, setup, and intonated but I haven't physically played them all that much yet.

    My initial impressions are WOW!..just what I've been looking for. These strings are huge sounding, but not overwhelming so. They are definitely deeper than the Labella FS set, but what stands out the most is how even they sound. They are the most balanced set of strings I've ever played. Not just in tone, but in volume all over the neck as well. I'm not afraid to play notes lower down on the G for fear that they'll sound thinner or weaker in comparison. These strings are brighter out of the pack than the FS set, which I have read. There is still a moderate absense of finger and fret noise as with flats, but the fret transition on slides and the fret "clank" when pressing down is just a bit brighter than you'd expect on some frets out of the pack. But, it is honestly a minor, minor thing. They sound great now and I know they will break in beautifully. These things even slap pretty nicely as far as the tone is concerned.

    As for feel, these ARE big strings (.52, .73, .95, .110) so they will take some getting used to. For me it will only be a slight adjustment, I don't know why, but it's not that big of a deal. In fact I love the big feel under my fingers. To me they make my Precision FEEL like a Precision, if that makes any sense. Tension wise, they are a bit higher tension than the FS, but in a strange way they have a softer feel. I definitely do agree with some remarks that they feel like steel bars, or that you'll get Tendonitis from playing them (take this from a guy with Carpal Tunnel already). In some ways I think the solid feel will help because the thickness of the strings allow them to speak more easily. Less force is required to get them to resonate (again, the opposite of what some has said, but that's why it's personal perception), so they actually are easier on your right hand. Your left hand might have to work a bit more, but once you get used to them I think it's a minor adjustment. Oh and if it helps anyone, I have relatively small hands, so you don't need bear claws to play these things.

    As far as adjustments to the bass goes, all I had to do was give the truss rod just a tad more than 1/8 of a turn. I do have the action SLIGHTLY higher than I would with a lighter set, but I think that works both in tone and feel for this set. I did however have to move the E saddle back quite far in order to intonate it. The other 3 strings intonated pretty easily, or were already pretty close to spot on.

    I only had a few problems/concerns with these strings:

    1) At least on my Highway One P, the tuner hole was a very tight fit for the E string, so it took some work to get it to lock into the tuner before I could start winding. I accidentally cut the string too LONG, which after having to unravel the string and try to give it another shot, didn't help :)

    2) There is some talk about having to get your nut slots widened, but my nut is fine...though the D saddle is just a tad too narrow, enough so I have to press the string into the slot. This just gives a fraction of a second delay when tuning because there is more friction on the string at the nut. I'm going to have to put some sandpaper on a tooth pick or something and widen it a tad. That would work right? Anyone? Bueller?

    3) I was nervous as hell tuning these up. You can definitely feel the tension in the tuners when you tune up and with every creak and groan from the string I was afraid the string might snap if I went higher than I should, so be VERY careful when tuning these up. Honestly if you're tuning EADG, these are the heaviest gauge strings I think you should use. Any heavier and you probably will snap a string. No worries though, they're of course fine for standard tuning, just pay attention to what you're doing.

    4) Finally, tuning is a bit more tricky, atleast with my tuners. I find that I have to be much more incremental with the tuners than with lighter strings. I kept going from flat to sharp in an instant while trying to hit the pitch. But I suspect a lot has to do with the strings being new. Once they're broken in it probably won't be a problem.

    That's it. Thanks for taking the time to read this. With all the threads on this and other Deep Talkin' sets I hope it helps. I'll probably try and get audio up eventually. These strings will definitely get you to Jamerson land and back. I'm actually going out tomorrow to get either a pencil eraser or some weather stripping just for that purpose :bassist:
     
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  2. Nice review -- please let us know upon follow up whether you still dig these. I may try a set!
     
  3. Thanks for this review! I am highly considering a set for the SX P-Bass I currently don't own haha
     
  4. StyleOverShow

    StyleOverShow Still Playing After All These Years Gold Supporting Member

    May 3, 2008
    Eugene
    Got a set of La Bella 760FM for my Carvin-5 that I will have a tech put on Thursday. Considered the Fenders but the reviews on this great forum convinced me that I wouldn't be happy with them.

    Put some Jazz77's on my fretless and they went dead in a week. Hoping they will resurrect into something else, I continue to plug away at them.

    The Extra Long 760FM range from 49/G to 109/E (and 128/B).
     
  5. The Rotosound Jazz 77s on my SX P-bass have been on there for about a month and, while hardly dead, have mellowed a wee bit which I prefer. I didn't care for the high tension of these at first but now that they're mellowing the thump attack they give is very satisfying. I'm wondering whether I now like them better than La Bellas.
     
  6. fretlessman71

    fretlessman71 Still beats havin' a job Supporting Member

    Aug 8, 2005
    FoCo, NoCo
    I'm confused.... the LaBella "Jamerson" set I ordered from imperial guitar was 43 63 83 103 I thought...
     
  7. fourstringdrums

    fourstringdrums Decidedly Indecisive Supporting Member

    Oct 20, 2002
    Massachusetts
    Nope, the Jamerson set is very heavy gauge because that's what Jamerson used when he was alive.

    Sounds like you ordered the 760FL set 43-60-82-104. That's the closest Labella set to the numbers you gave.
     
  8. Luckydog

    Luckydog

    Dec 25, 1999
    I used the Jamersons for a while on y 66 Precision about 8 years ago. Very nice tone and attack. I could feel the power of these strings. They started to wear my left hand out though, so I changed them out. I didnt want to end up with an injury!
     
  9. NoHomework81

    NoHomework81

    Jul 27, 2007
    Atlanta, GA
    I've got the Jamersons on both of my Precisions. Hands down my favorite strings. Both basses handle the tension no problem, and I love a low action. I super-highly recommend them to anyone wanting flat wounds for old-school sounds.

    However: 2 out of the 4 sets of LaBella's I've ordered recently have had loose windings on the G strings (the actual steel winding, not the silk up top), which caused serious annoying buzzes. Time to step up the QC! :spit:

    Nice review, by the way!
     
  10. fourstringdrums

    fourstringdrums Decidedly Indecisive Supporting Member

    Oct 20, 2002
    Massachusetts
    After playing with them some more I will add a few more things:

    These strings take a bit longer to break in. Usually by this time I'm done retuning with other strings, but I'm still stretching and tweaking this set. But they're larger so it makes sense that it would take a little longer. I also had a problem with intonating the E string. It was sharp no matter how far back I put the saddle. But another thread clued me in on "seating" the strings at the saddle by pressing down on the string in front of the saddle. Once I did that a few times the string intonated with no problem.

    The other thing is that and I'm sure it's just me having sensitive or insensitive ears or whatever, but certain notes higher up the neck on the E & A will sometimes to my ear sound slightly sharp even if they don't register it. By checking by playing and octave and seeing if the tone waves are out of phase I find that the note definitely is in tune, but for some reason, my ears just hear the notes as sharp unless I REALLY focus hard and listen. I don't fault the strings, I fault my ears :)
     
  11. Just get those ears replaced and you'll be all set :D
     
  12. fourstringdrums

    fourstringdrums Decidedly Indecisive Supporting Member

    Oct 20, 2002
    Massachusetts
    HUH? C'mon again?

    :p

    I wonder if this is common though with playing higher notes on thicker strings.
     
  13. fretlessman71

    fretlessman71 Still beats havin' a job Supporting Member

    Aug 8, 2005
    FoCo, NoCo
    http://imperialguitar.stores.yahoo.net/760fm.html

    So THESE are the Jamerson Strings....? Oops....
     
  14. fretlessman71

    fretlessman71 Still beats havin' a job Supporting Member

    Aug 8, 2005
    FoCo, NoCo
    YOWSA. Those ARE some hefty strings!
     
  15. I have deep LaBella's on my BG-31, I tuned down a full step. Lower tension and a nice feel.
     
  16. fretlessman71

    fretlessman71 Still beats havin' a job Supporting Member

    Aug 8, 2005
    FoCo, NoCo
    Got some on the way! Will report when further news is available. :D
     
  17. fourstringdrums

    fourstringdrums Decidedly Indecisive Supporting Member

    Oct 20, 2002
    Massachusetts
    No, those are the Deep Talkin' Flat Heavy Gauge set which are just slightly lighter than the Jamerson set. 760FM. The Jamerson set is 760M which is a tad confusing.

    52-73-95-110 vs. 49-69-89-109 for the Deep Talkin' Heavy Gauge set.
     
  18. One Drop

    One Drop

    Oct 10, 2004
    Swiss Alps
    I find stretching out strings does nothing to improve intonation or tuning, and is completely unnecessary.

    I had similar issues about sounding out of tune for a few days with a new Jamerson set, but it went away as they settled.
     
  19. fourstringdrums

    fourstringdrums Decidedly Indecisive Supporting Member

    Oct 20, 2002
    Massachusetts
    To me that proves that stretching does help. As the strings settled and stretched a bit, it went away.
     
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