It's still better than line output though
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Last night's backline.......not impressed.......
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It's still better than line output though
It looks to me as if these videos are made more to demonstrate an affiliation with a renowned bassist rather than to demonstrate the actual sound of the amp. I mean, the effect of these thin-sounding, clackity Foderas being played as quasi-guitars hardly goes along with the needs (presumably) of most bassists.
I've been a Markbass amp user for almost 10 years. The amps are pretty versatile IMO.
Its got a learning Curve....lol
yeah it took about five seconds to learn....it sucks
So many amps sound so good when you plug in.
sure you can pittle diddle with knobs.
then again some just work and you dont have to touch them
I also play drums and tried out some bass players. Already had a 370 and 810 at the studio.
younger guy sees a 810 and old ancient led sled. doesnt say much but has a krap snob look on his face.
Guitar player i brought in was amazing.
At the end of the jam he is incredible impressed. he tried moving the knobs but went back to my settings.
everything almost straight up. he said man this amp does alot but you dont need to move anything. it sounds better than my amp.
he was also one of those guys that pretends a 810 doesnt work. but in reality never has played one. then get floored by the presence and snap
yep Son that amps been straight up for 40 years now, and every hardcore collector or fan ive met that can actually play bass pretty much leaves it straight up
yeah it took about five seconds to learn....it sucks
So many amps sound so good when you plug in.
sure you can pittle diddle with knobs.
then again some just work and you dont have to touch them
I also play drums and tried out some bass players. Already had a 370 and 810 at the studio.
younger guy sees a 810 and old ancient led sled. doesnt say much but has a krap snob look on his face.
Guitar player i brought in was amazing.
At the end of the jam he is incredible impressed. he tried moving the knobs but went back to my settings.
everything almost straight up. he said man this amp does alot but you dont need to move anything. it sounds better than my amp.
he was also one of those guys that pretends a 810 doesnt work. but in reality never has played one. then get floored by the presence and snap
yep Son that amps been straight up for 40 years now, and every hardcore collector or fan ive met that can actually play bass pretty much leaves it straight up
I get that. I never majorly touch my TH500, haven't for years. Once it's dialled in, it's a set n forgetter.
Understand that it ain't for everyone tho
Understand that it ain't for everyone tho
I owned a TH500 for a few months and sold it. It had a baked in midrangey sound which I could never dial out. Good if you wanted that but for a beefier sound, not the amp for me. Now the other Aguilar tube heads like the DB75x might be an entirely different beast but I have no experience with them.
1) I'm always happy when I do not have to bring my own.
2) I never have liked aguilar but would certainly get over it...as I didn't have to bring my own.
IME sounding like crap makes for a long gig. While I'd rather not bring my rig, that desire is easily overridden by my desire to sound good. I've played through some seriously deficient backline.
these "horror stories" amuse me. Reminds me of a time when we played a huge benefit. Backline provided and drummer from host band stipulated "bring your cymbals and pedals." So we did. It was an all day gig and we showed up as another band was playing. Drums sounded great, everything was looking awesome so far.
It was our turn a little later and there was no snare, no snare stand, no throne, no cymbals and no pedals. We went to the host drummer and showed him our band flyer that told us what to bring. He proceeded to tell us there was a corrected flyer but it seems we didnt get it and he wouldnt lend us what we were missing. Eventually another drummer lent us his throne. The drummers wife drove 30 minutes home and 30 minutes back to get his snare but no snare stand. After having to delay our set more, we finally were able to get what we needed. And the host band were cool but the drummer seemed like an ass.... not to mention my drummer was getting pissed too. Screwed up the mood for our shortened set.
It was our turn a little later and there was no snare, no snare stand, no throne, no cymbals and no pedals. We went to the host drummer and showed him our band flyer that told us what to bring. He proceeded to tell us there was a corrected flyer but it seems we didnt get it and he wouldnt lend us what we were missing. Eventually another drummer lent us his throne. The drummers wife drove 30 minutes home and 30 minutes back to get his snare but no snare stand. After having to delay our set more, we finally were able to get what we needed. And the host band were cool but the drummer seemed like an ass.... not to mention my drummer was getting pissed too. Screwed up the mood for our shortened set.
Not much to learn when you're stuck. I'd rather remain unsatisfied with bad gear and keep appreciating good gear.
Neither thin nor clanky through my bluetooth speaker. Sounded like Bona. Didn't sounded good through my phone. ijs
I'd have to say that I am not a fan of any Aguilar gear, especially the Tone Hammer and their cabs. I did a gig a couple of months ago where a DB751 and Aguilar 410 was the supplied rig, and I couldn't get a sound out of it at all. There was a low-mid emphasis that was impossible to dial out, no perceivable fundamental below low E, and an overall roundness that seemed to impede definition. If I was strictly playing in a modern R&B kind of situation it might work, but otherwise, no thanks.
I know a lot of people love them, so.. different strokes.
I know a lot of people love them, so.. different strokes.
I had a fly-date last night at a club we play at every month for years and the backline is a TH500 and two 2/10 cabs. I’m usually always happy with it, last night not so much. This thread put the zap on me I think.
As some one mentioned earlier, the TH is not a good amp to provide for backline. The controls take some getting used to as they do not operate like normal EQ.
On the TH amps, the Gain actually controls the amount of effect that the Drive and Mid Controls have on your signal. If you've upped the Gain, then as you up the Drive, the amp starts rolling off low end and high end. For "clean" and "deep", I'd run the Gain and Drive at 0 and work from there.
If they wanted to use Aguilar for backline, the AG 700 would be a way better choice, IMO.
On the TH amps, the Gain actually controls the amount of effect that the Drive and Mid Controls have on your signal. If you've upped the Gain, then as you up the Drive, the amp starts rolling off low end and high end. For "clean" and "deep", I'd run the Gain and Drive at 0 and work from there.
If they wanted to use Aguilar for backline, the AG 700 would be a way better choice, IMO.
So I pretty much sabotaged my own sound. I didn't touch the drive knob though. I wonder why they designed the amp that way?! Good thing I didn't have any 'slap' tunes on the setlist that night.
I have to agree with posters who are of the opinion that something was wrong with the OP's particular rig. My TH 500 has been the 'bees knees' for as long as I've owned it. It's been paired numerous times with an Aguilar GS 212 and on other occasions with an Epifani UL-410. Both share a somewhat similar sonic signature (to my ears). Lack of 'booty' was never, never an issue with either combination. I like the TH 500 so much that I owned two of them at one point. That's all I've got for now.
M. M.
M. M.
I did a multi-artist gig several years ago. Asked if I needed to bring my rig, promototer said yeah. Turns out he told everyone else no because he planned on sharing my rig.
I used a Markbass cabinet for a while & have tried some Aguilar stuff. The Aguilar cabinets are scooped in comparison to a Markbass cabinet. A Markbass cabinet is more flat, which people claim is mid-forward.
The Aguilar amp should make up for the scoop in the divers however, because the Tone Hammer amp has a flat response, not scooped.
I can only think something was wrong with that Tone Hammer at the venue, because I've never heard a Markbass amp that sounded better than an Aguilar.
Ah, I was just reading that the controls might have needed some attention.
Their Gain isn't the same as other amps.
I agree. It took me a few weeks to get comfortable with my TH500's eq section. Once I figured out how to dial in "my" sound, it's been a great little amp. I usually use it with a pair of Aguilar GS112s.
I'm wondering if that GS410 is an 8 ohm cabinet. Honestly, I'm kind of underwhelmed with the volume of my TH500 at 8 ohms.
IMHO and IME the TH500 doesn't seem to have as much volume at 4 ohms as let's say a GK1001RB does at 8 ohms.
But for small to medium rooms, -with other players who know how to keep their volumes at a sensible level, my TH500 and pair of GS112s is plenty. And it's a breeze to load in and load out.
I not going to complain too much, in the last five months I had on backline that ended up on JimmyM's tiny amp page, and another beat-to-crap Eden rig that when it did work it brought in radio signals. That's when the monitor guy is your best friend.
I have a GS410 and use it often. It is an excellent cabinet with plenty of low end and scooped mids, which is what I like. However, I have owned a TH500 but other than carrying it around for emergencies I didn't care for the tone. Not as versatile as my DB359 or AG500SC, let alone other amps (both tube and ss) I have.
