Live stream rehearsal

[kentiki]

I am not sure if this is the worst idea I've ever heard, but it's pretty close.
Not opposed to live streaming finished material, but rehearsal implies that you are still working on material.

 

[pie_man_25]

He’s of the opinion that you should be giving free private concerts, that are 2-3 hours long, to the entire world: how exactly does that actually help you guys?

using the right avenues, and more than one, one could generate revenue from ads, and eventually gain potential opportunities doing stuff like using or reviewing gear that was pushed out to them for promotional purposes. Play your cards right, it might even be more than $2.75 per member, per annum. With diligence, good and potentially broad songwriting, and market savvy-ness, this could lead into gigs in the future. There are bands that got famous by putting songs up on youtube, and THEN started doing gigs.

 

[craigie]

Why buy the cow when you can get the milk free?

Maybe a kernel of truth there, but if you like the band enough to watch a lot of streams, then why not go see them live which is way more fun? Haven’t you ever gotten an album and listened to it until wore out the tape, then were stoked at your chance to see the band?

 

[pcake]

using the right avenues, and more than one, one could generate revenue from ads, and eventually gain potential opportunities doing stuff like using or reviewing gear that was pushed out to them for promotional purposes. Play your cards right, it might even be more than $2.75 per member, per annum. With diligence, good and potentially broad songwriting, and market savvy-ness, this could lead into gigs in the future. There are bands that got famous by putting songs up on youtube, and THEN started doing gigs.

there's a difference between putting up songs on youtube and streaming entire rehearsals. i know people who make bank on youtube and on their blogs, but 3 hours is a mighty long reality show. and most people don't have the marketing chops to get the traffic to their site/stream/youtube account.

 

[pie_man_25]

there's a difference between putting up songs on youtube and streaming entire rehearsals. i know people who make bank on youtube and on their blogs, but 3 hours is a mighty long reality show. and most people don't have the marketing chops to get the traffic to their site/stream/youtube account.

absolutely, I'm just saying it's possible. I'm only saying the MIGHT make more than 2.75 per person per year, with the right application of skills. If I knew how to do it, I probably would be doing it already.

You don't just have to do Youtube either, Twitch is an option. I've only seen people do stuff for gaming on Twitch, but it's a service i hardly touch.

 

[gln1955]

At Monday's rehearsal, the guitarist and keyboardist got into it over some idiotic BS. It went on for long enough that the rest of us packed up and went home. If we would have been streaming that, it would have just been embarrassing for everyone.

(They worked it out and we're all cool now)

But really, who wants to watch more than a few minutes of any band's rehearsal?

 

[pcake]

absolutely, I'm just saying it's possible. I'm only saying the MIGHT make more than 2.75 per person per year, with the right application of skills. If I knew how to do it, I probably would be doing it already.

You don't just have to do Youtube either, Twitch is an option. I've only seen people do stuff for gaming on Twitch, but it's a service i hardly touch.

the only Twitch users i know do games, also. the thing about youtube is it sends a decent amount of traffic to your videos (or live streams) if your descriptions are highly relevant but also use searched terms.

i wonder if someone could do a rehearsal reality show for youtube with fake drama and arguments, sexy girlfriends, booking shows, an occasional interaction with the person renting them the lockout. 20 minutes per episode, 1 new song (maybe 2) each episode that get hashed out, arranged, fought over, and at the end of the show they play the new song in all its perfect glory with semi pro music video...

 

[Kmonk]

Not trying to offend anyone but to be honest, unless you are in a famous band, nobody cares about you live streaming your rehearsals. The only people who will watch are close friends and family. It will only be a distraction to the band and it can also result in fewer people coming to shows if the band isn't very good or if the sound quality is poor.

 

[abracadunphy]

So my co bandleader (frontman) and I are having a rare disagreement, because he wants to live stream all of our rehearsals on social media in their entirety in the name of publicity. I'm cool with a couple songs, and the few songs we have streamed for rehearsal have gotten a ton of positive feedback. Way more people watch the stream than show up for gigs. But I feel that it is counterproductive to actually working on the small details such as what rehearsals are for, and he feels like it is better practice for actual performances. Please weigh in.

I think it does not make any difference.

 

[pie_man_25]

the only Twitch users i know do games, also. the thing about youtube is it sends a decent amount of traffic to your videos (or live streams) if your descriptions are highly relevant but also use searched terms.

i wonder if someone could do a rehearsal reality show for youtube with fake drama and arguments, sexy girlfriends, booking shows, an occasional interaction with the person renting them the lockout. 20 minutes per episode, 1 new song (maybe 2) each episode that get hashed out, arranged, fought over, and at the end of the show they play the new song in all its perfect glory with semi pro music video...

Somebody would watch it, my girlfriend watches a reality show that sets people up on first dates, all in the same restaurant. She also watches a show about the people that the CBSA deal with, I guess it's like a polite version of Cops.

But that's kinda the thing, I don't personally see live rehearsal taking off, but as others including yourself I believe have stated, practicing some songs off camera, and playing a sort of setlist, maybe with some banter in between, could do well, but that would probably best be in between a regular schedule of uploaded content with a channel that's got an established draw and can entertain people. This primary revenue, as far as I can tell, is based mostly on people looking at ads. A longer video could get people looking at more ads, but only if it draws people in and can keep them viewing longer. It'd be easier to draw people in to a longer thing after people decide they like looking at your shorter stuff. At any rate: I'm fairly dumb at this and really can't back up what I'm saying, this is all the conclusions I've come to from looking at stuff on youtube casually - this advice is offered freely because I couldn't ethically accept money for giving it.

Edit: also, your idea has potential, fake fighting, dramatic depiction of the songwriting process, physically attractive women (and I would assume men as well) . Look at the food Network, sure, commercial kitchens are stressful environments, but most of that stuff is just overdramatic, hypercompetitive crap anyways. As much as I respect the skill of those involved, I can't watch that stuff.

 

[Hevy T]

Record for private critiquing yes!

Live stream no!

Edit out the from the recorded footage, and that could be golden

 

[buldog5151bass]

If people are going to watch your rehearsal, they are not going to watch the entire thing, especially since it won't all be music. Give them some choice bits.

 

[MDBass]

using the right avenues, and more than one, one could generate revenue from ads, and eventually gain potential opportunities doing stuff like using or reviewing gear that was pushed out to them for promotional purposes. Play your cards right, it might even be more than $2.75 per member, per annum. With diligence, good and potentially broad songwriting, and market savvy-ness, this could lead into gigs in the future. There are bands that got famous by putting songs up on youtube, and THEN started doing gigs.

Not sure if you're being tongue in cheek or not, but in case you aren't...

1. You need EXPONENTIALLY more traffic than 500 people a stream to make any money at all, and no gear manufacturer is going to send anyone with that little web traffic free stuff for promotional purposes.

2. The OP is talking about live-streaming the ENTIRETY of a 2-3 hour rehearsal on a regular basis: that is literally the exact opposite of putting up polished recordings of single songs on YouTube once every month or two to gain traction for your band.

You can absolutely get gigs, attracts fans, and build cross brand promotional opportunities by having a professional web presence, and I'd even argue that it's mandatory to do so in the current music market.

Live-streaming your whole rehearsal every week doesn't fit anywhere into that picture.

 

[smogg]

To put it simply..... ummmm, NO! Rehearsals are not for public consumption. You wanna see my band? Come to a show. If you are really a fan, come to a show. If you can't be bothered to come see us live then imo you are not really a fan. All freaked out about interacting with other humans or logistically too far away? Then buy my merch online and watch/listen to the band at your convenience. Or better yet come to a live show, buy our merch, have a frosty and chat with the band a bit.

 

[Medicine Man]

I don't think anyone's attention on social media is longer than 45 seconds.

 

[MDBass]

I don't think anyone's attention on social media is longer than 45 seconds.

If it doesn't sound and look GREAT, I don't think it's longer than 10 seconds.

The band that I currently tour with had a lot of success building the brand by releasing a single, accompanied by video, every 2 months for a full year before releasing the album: we ended up hitting something like 500,000 YouTube streams and 1,000,000 Spotify plays that way, and I can all but guarantee you that wouldn't have happened if we just released the songs without anything to watch while people listened.

 

[pie_man_25]

Not sure if you're being tongue in cheek or not, but in case you aren't...

1. You need EXPONENTIALLY more traffic than 500 people a stream to make any money at all, and no gear manufacturer is going to send anyone with that little web traffic free stuff for promotional purposes.

2. The OP is talking about live-streaming the ENTIRETY of a 2-3 hour rehearsal on a regular basis: that is literally the exact opposite of putting up polished recordings of single songs on YouTube once every month or two to gain traction for your band.

You can absolutely get gigs, attracts fans, and build cross brand promotional opportunities by having a professional web presence, and I'd even argue that it's mandatory to do so in the current music market.

Live-streaming your whole rehearsal every week doesn't fit anywhere into that picture.

Oh I'm with you in that a whole rehearsal being streamed isn't the best idea, but live streaming doesn't HAVE to be a whole rehearsal. Just because an apple is half rotten doesn't mean you have to toss it, it could make good cider. Streaming can bring a sense of urgency or excitement. An uploaded video every week can be missed and seen the next week before viewing the other, but something that's streamed live might be best viewed live, and could potentially incentivize more people into viewing. Granted, there's a time and a place for that and it's probably not a practice session, but you can practice a set ahead of time, maybe show off some new material, build up some hype in between songs and banter. Just because streaming a whole practice has lot of downsides doesn't mean the whole thing is a bass idea, I'm sure you get that.

I was dumb and quick to respond, and went back to read your original post, I apologize, I thought I was honestly responding to somebody asking what benefit putting anything up on a streaming service might have. I honestly haven't quite been myself the past little bit.

 

[MDBass]

Oh I'm with you in that a whole rehearsal being streamed isn't the best idea, but live streaming doesn't HAVE to be a whole rehearsal. Just because an apple is half rotten doesn't mean you have to toss it, it could make good cider. Streaming can bring a sense of urgency or excitement. An uploaded video every week can be missed and seen the next week before viewing the other, but something that's streamed live might be best viewed live, and could potentially incentivize more people into viewing. Granted, there's a time and a place for that and it's probably not a practice session, but you can practice a set ahead of time, maybe show off some new material, build up some hype in between songs and banter. Just because streaming a whole practice has lot of downsides doesn't mean the whole thing is a bass idea, I'm sure you get that.

I was dumb and quick to respond, and went back to read your original post, I apologize, I thought I was honestly responding to somebody asking what benefit putting anything up on a streaming service might have. I honestly haven't quite been myself the past little bit.

All good man

 

[zjanderson]

A bunch of bands use StageIt nowadays as well. Granted they're well known bands that are actually putting on a show (not rehearsal) and you have to pay to watch it.

 

[pcake]

Somebody would watch it, my girlfriend watches a reality show that sets people up on first dates, all in the same restaurant. She also watches a show about the people that the CBSA deal with, I guess it's like a polite version of Cops.

But that's kinda the thing, I don't personally see live rehearsal taking off, but as others including yourself I believe have stated, practicing some songs off camera, and playing a sort of setlist, maybe with some banter in between, could do well, but that would probably best be in between a regular schedule of uploaded content with a channel that's got an established draw and can entertain people. This primary revenue, as far as I can tell, is based mostly on people looking at ads. A longer video could get people looking at more ads, but only if it draws people in and can keep them viewing longer. It'd be easier to draw people in to a longer thing after people decide they like looking at your shorter stuff. At any rate: I'm fairly dumb at this and really can't back up what I'm saying, this is all the conclusions I've come to from looking at stuff on youtube casually - this advice is offered freely because I couldn't ethically accept money for giving it.

Edit: also, your idea has potential, fake fighting, dramatic depiction of the songwriting process, physically attractive women (and I would assume men as well) . Look at the food Network, sure, commercial kitchens are stressful environments, but most of that stuff is just overdramatic, hypercompetitive crap anyways. As much as I respect the skill of those involved, I can't watch that stuff.

i was thinking a different band each episode, and then the most popular ones could return for another episode. reality tv is insanely popular...