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Low Down Sound Club V3
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So much for that recommendation!
I guess they are all a crapshoot?
Off topic, but it was a multiple thousand square foot facility where you could play about 20 NBA full court games simultaneously and there were only 20-30 pallets in view on the floor!
Scary as this should be a busy season?
Air freight is probably not normal consumer, but rather industrial related, but I could not help but view it as a sign of the economy. I got there after lunch though and most businesses probably send their drivers in the AM?
We will have to do a cab GTG or split a club gig soon, bearing in mind I have not even heard it yet. I was an early adopter of GB's Carvin boutique on a budget idea so I am sure I will like it once I hear it. (if all the solder joints are good)
Yup, glad to hear it after all you went through. Luckily for me, I live close to Don, ( about an hour away ), so, whenever I get the gas for a cab, I just go pick it up. Hope you like it !
- Dec 21, 2007
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- Lark in the Morning Instructional Videos; Audix Microphones
We will have to do a cab GTG or split a club gig soon, bearing in mind I have not even heard it yet. I was an early adopter of GB's Carvin boutique on a budget idea so I am sure I will like it once I hear it. (if all the solder joints are good)
Cool idea - I sent you a PM about it. Let's get together and rumble some walls!
Sliderbass
Dr. Bass, The best cabinet you'll NEVER own!
I have a problem. I can't build a box to save my life. I've tried in the past without any success. I also do not have the means or the space to obtain a "cut kit" so that is out of the question as well. So what am I to do?
I'm not a big fan of used cabinets. Its a personal choice.
I have worked with Don on three other cabinets with very good results. Again, that is MY opinion and someone else would have a different one I'm sure.
It was not my intent to pour any fuel on the fire. I thought that perhaps a third party review would benefit the community. It was not meant to offend anyone. If it came across as that or as a suck-up move, I apologize.
I have removed the post.
Its a shame that in the current economic times we all live in, that a small company could not have been stated to produce these cabinets to the exact specifications with distribution in the US first and then perhaps world-wide. That takes seed money that's kinda hard to come by. Never mind the difficulties of actually running that business.
Now I'm rambling... Sorry...
I'm not a big fan of used cabinets. Its a personal choice.
I have worked with Don on three other cabinets with very good results. Again, that is MY opinion and someone else would have a different one I'm sure.
It was not my intent to pour any fuel on the fire. I thought that perhaps a third party review would benefit the community. It was not meant to offend anyone. If it came across as that or as a suck-up move, I apologize.
I have removed the post.
Its a shame that in the current economic times we all live in, that a small company could not have been stated to produce these cabinets to the exact specifications with distribution in the US first and then perhaps world-wide. That takes seed money that's kinda hard to come by. Never mind the difficulties of actually running that business.
Now I'm rambling... Sorry...
Not if there was a clear understanding about what was to be built. Always best if it was in writing too (I learned this the hard way with a home addition project...).
Mine was supposed to be vertical, too.
It sounds great and the price was right so I am not complaining too much about it.
..I tried to come up with a humorous reply to that but I'm so turned-off right now not much seems funny. Hopefully this gets sorted out, but I'm not holding my breath.
Again, besides the speakers needing break-in time, the tone and sound is more-or-less there, but the build quality... Oi. If this were a commercially-produced cabinet I have no doubt I'd have a customer service rep enthusiastically apologizing to me right now. The damn LDS logo is glued on crooked. :scowl: There's more but I'm trying to remain calm.
Sorry to hear about your problems, Tim. I have had two cabs built by Don, and he's done everything I asked him to do, once we got it all figured out. I think one of the key things to getting what you want from Don, ( within reason ), is to keep in communication with him as often as it takes to make sure you get what you want. Not saying you did'nt do that, but it's one thing I've noticed in dealing with him.
Bummer. I'm sure Don will refund your money if you aren't happy. Don's standard 'vertical' configuration is offset, but if you requested 'in-line' specifically, then that's what you should have received. Fit and finish issues are very rare, so not sure what that is about.
IMO and IME, Don does a fabulous job building custom cabs based on a buyer telling him in general terms what he wants (i.e., a vertical oriented 212 of a certain weight and producing a certain tone profile... old school, modern, etc., etc.). However, as has been seen in a few other orders on this thread, if you get into very specific requirements, exact measurements, etc., quite frankly things sometimes don't turn out exactly as the customer had spec'd.
If I was ordering a very specific build from Don, I would make sure I got a drawing and full spec sheet prior to build. Don should do this as a matter of course, IMO... it shouldn't be the customer's responsibility.
I didn't intend to make things worse... I found some shocking parallels in these two threads...mostly in that the extent of artistic license taken on custom orders...
Good luck with the resolution... Ultimately you have to be satisfied with the ending.
Alright, I've corresponded with Don between emails. He's made me a fabulous offer of returning my cab, building a new one exactly to my specs, and paying for all the shipping.
I will probably keep the cabinet I have. Sound-wise, the perfectly vertical design I asked for wouldn't sound much different than the staggered setup I got, if at all. Anybody who knows these speakers knows that they don't do well off-axis with regards to top end dispersion. Whatever - mics and PA systems. I knew that going in. And my cabinet right now sounds a little thin, but they're brand-new speakers badly in need of being broken in. I've played them for one hour total and am no fan of "huge" bottom end.
I don't know the exact internal volume or tuning of this cab, but I do know that if I value my hearing, it will never approach farting out. I couldn't imagine two of these stacked.
Fit and finish issues - and I'm just being honest as a paying customer who paid for a product - we discussed smaller corner protectors and I got the heavy-duty industrial strength-looking ones. Whatever, I'll be alright. But the cabinet is missing the rubber feet that we plainly discussed. Don't know how that happened. The logo is indeed crooked on the grill, which I really want to fix somehow. The jackplate on the back is the worst. The wood that peeled up from the screws wasn't removed and the jackplate does not rest cleanly against the back of the cab. It looks a little amateurish.
Am I happy with how good and loud the cab is? Yes. It's what I expected. Build quality has some issues but my advice to anybody who wants to order LDS, speak with Don on the phone and send him a schematic print-out of exactly what you want. If you're ordering a custom cab, you should spend much time learning, understanding, and designing exactly what you want. As stand-alone bass drivers - which the Kappalite 3012HO's are not - this cab pretty well does as good a job as you can do with them - they are midrange monsters. Exactly what I wanted sound-wise, but the design I ended up with is a confusing situation to say the least.
I will probably keep the cabinet I have. Sound-wise, the perfectly vertical design I asked for wouldn't sound much different than the staggered setup I got, if at all. Anybody who knows these speakers knows that they don't do well off-axis with regards to top end dispersion. Whatever - mics and PA systems. I knew that going in. And my cabinet right now sounds a little thin, but they're brand-new speakers badly in need of being broken in. I've played them for one hour total and am no fan of "huge" bottom end.
I don't know the exact internal volume or tuning of this cab, but I do know that if I value my hearing, it will never approach farting out.
I couldn't imagine two of these stacked.Fit and finish issues - and I'm just being honest as a paying customer who paid for a product - we discussed smaller corner protectors and I got the heavy-duty industrial strength-looking ones. Whatever, I'll be alright. But the cabinet is missing the rubber feet that we plainly discussed. Don't know how that happened. The logo is indeed crooked on the grill, which I really want to fix somehow. The jackplate on the back is the worst. The wood that peeled up from the screws wasn't removed and the jackplate does not rest cleanly against the back of the cab. It looks a little amateurish.
Am I happy with how good and loud the cab is? Yes. It's what I expected. Build quality has some issues but my advice to anybody who wants to order LDS, speak with Don on the phone and send him a schematic print-out of exactly what you want. If you're ordering a custom cab, you should spend much time learning, understanding, and designing exactly what you want. As stand-alone bass drivers - which the Kappalite 3012HO's are not - this cab pretty well does as good a job as you can do with them - they are midrange monsters. Exactly what I wanted sound-wise, but the design I ended up with is a confusing situation to say the least.
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