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I work IT for education pre K - Masters
She's not going to be doing any sort of heavy computer work so buy her a cheap 200$ netbook (Asus eee are awesome) and put Ubuntu on it.

Parents always way over pay on laptops when sending their children to college. You don;t need to spend over 300$ for Internet and a word processor, especially for her major.

While Apple does make a great laptop that's way more durable than a PC laptop (trust me my boss is rough on laptops).It's not worth the money usually.

If you're insisting on spending the money I've been buying the macbook airs for people these days simply great little machines out of the 30 I've purchased none of them have gone back to Apple yet for repair. Save 100$ and put Open Office on it instead of microsoft office.
 
I work IT for education pre K - Masters
She's not going to be doing any sort of heavy computer work so buy her a cheap 200$ netbook (Asus eee are awesome) and put Ubuntu on it.

Parents always way over pay on laptops when sending their children to college. You don;t need to spend over 300$ for Internet and a word processor, especially for her major.

While Apple does make a great laptop that's way more durable than a PC laptop (trust me my boss is rough on laptops).It's not worth the money usually.

If you're insisting on spending the money I've been buying the macbook airs for people these days simply great little machines out of the 30 I've purchased none of them have gone back to Apple yet for repair. Save 100$ and put Open Office on it instead of microsoft office.

I tried to use a Netbook for school and it was a disaster. The tiny keyboard gave me horrible wrist fatigue, especially when trying to take notes in class. The tiny screen gave me horrible eye fatigue. It was so slow that I would often have problems getting the damn software loaded by the time I needed it in class. Open Office is a behemoth of a program. I can only imagine the nightmare of trying to load Open Office while a professor gets started lecturing. Doing any web-based work, which is increasingly popular in college classes, was a complete and total nightmare.

Netbooks are a terrible, terrible option for students. They are a last resort at best.
 
I work IT for education pre K - Masters
She's not going to be doing any sort of heavy computer work so buy her a cheap 200$ netbook (Asus eee are awesome) and put Ubuntu on it.

Parents always way over pay on laptops when sending their children to college. You don;t need to spend over 300$ for Internet and a word processor, especially for her major.

While Apple does make a great laptop that's way more durable than a PC laptop (trust me my boss is rough on laptops).It's not worth the money usually.

If you're insisting on spending the money I've been buying the macbook airs for people these days simply great little machines out of the 30 I've purchased none of them have gone back to Apple yet for repair. Save 100$ and put Open Office on it instead of microsoft office.

Have you tried PuppEEE? It's a lightweight distro made especially for the Asus EEE.

I've been intrigued by netbooks myself, though the issues of wrist fatigue and eyestrain would both be show stoppers for me. One thing I've noticed is that Open Office is a lot faster if you've got plenty of memory.
 
C'mon, replacing the HDD isn't all that, lol! On the Unibody Macbook Pro's you remove a total of 12 screws. In total you remove two parts, the bottom of the laptop and the HDD "lock." In fact, it's easier to get to the HDD in the newer MBPs than the older ones and the older ones still weren't all that either. All it takes is a little precision. I think you only need a T6 for like two screws and one of those is pretty cheap. The battery has a pull tab (like the stock HDD) and is held down by 2-3 T-type screws so I'm assuming that it is indeed removable it just takes a little more effort than the older models.

Personally, I think an unskilled person has no business messing with any computer hardware unless they have a helping hand (be it a person on online resource) anyway. It's up to them whether they want to pay someone to do it or to figure it out themselves. I chose the latter.

Your "LOL" post shows your limited knowledge of Macs. Try removing the hard drive from an I-Mac G4 laptop. 58 screws, 30 steps, then reverse; versus 2 screws and 2 steps, then reverse on a Dell laptop . I will wager that you cannot replace the hard drive and have a working computer afterward. Think it's easy? LOL, take a look:
iBook G4 14" 1.42 GHz Hard Drive Replacement - iFixit
 
Your "LOL" post shows your limited knowledge of Macs. Try removing the hard drive from an I-Mac G4 laptop. 58 screws, 30 steps, then reverse; versus 2 screws and 2 steps, then reverse on a Dell laptop . I will wager that you cannot replace the hard drive and have a working computer afterward. Think it's easy? LOL, take a look:
iBook G4 14" 1.42 GHz Hard Drive Replacement - iFixit

The fact that your best example is a model that was discontinued half a decade ago shows your limited knowledge of Macs.
 
The fact that your best example is a model that was discontinued half a decade ago shows your limited knowledge of Macs.

Kwesi's statement, in regards to hard drive removal difficulty is "the older ones still weren't all that either"; is what I was responding.

I'll match my Mac and PC knowledge and skills with you any day. I have a degree, certifications, and experience. I own two Macs and several PCs. What are your qualifications?
 
Kwesi's statement, in regards to hard drive removal difficulty is "the older ones still weren't all that either"; is what I was responding.

I'll match my Mac and PC knowledge and skills with you any day. I have a degree, certifications, and experience. I own two Macs and several PCs. What are your qualifications?

I don't care what your qualifications are. Right is right, wrong is wrong, and ignorant is ignorant.

EDIT: He said the older MBP, not the older Mac laptops in general.
 
Again, what are your qualifications?

I don't need to post my "qualifications" to show that I'm right. Ideas can be easily judged on their own merits. Those who believe "qualifications" trump logic, reason, and evidence are fools. No fact ever became true or false based on the "qualifications" of the person stating it.
 
If I started criticizing Windows solely on how much ME sucked and used that as a basis for Windows sucking now, you would rightfully call me out on it. Stop playing games

Well, no I wouldn't...

Because a big chunk of the issues with current windows are the same as past issues with previous versions of windows.



That's an inherently disingenuous argument considering that the VAST majority of Macs are all-in-ones are laptops.

Ok... most common laptop part to fail? Battery.

Price compare on those.



What parts?

Power supplies, motherboards, displays - basically anything non-standard. RAM/HD are basically the same as they standardized on those.
 
Well, no I wouldn't...

Because a big chunk of the issues with current windows are the same as past issues with previous versions of windows.

The things you were referring to are NOT problems on current Macbooks so your point is moot.

Ok... most common laptop part to fail? Battery.

Price compare on those.

Apple ones are more expensive, but that's not the whole story. Apple is the only laptop manufacturer, to my knowledge (and I just checked HP and Dell to make sure I was right), whose standard warranty covers loss of battery life. That easily trumps the fact that it is more expensive, considering that loss of life is the most common reason a battery goes bad.

Power supplies, motherboards, displays - basically anything non-standard. RAM/HD are basically the same as they standardized on those.

That point is moot because it's incredibly rare that anyone replaces any of those parts outside of warranty on a laptop or all-in-one anyway.
 
Also... you don't have to use a Mac battery. There are plenty of third party options that are just as cheap as any other battery. People do the same crap with Apple RAM; they act like RAM for a Mac is more expensive because Apple charges a ridiculous amount for it... when you can just buy any RAM off Newegg and put it in.
 
I don't need to post my "qualifications" to show that I'm right. Ideas can be easily judged on their own merits. Those who believe "qualifications" trump logic, reason, and evidence are fools. No fact ever became true or false based on the "qualifications" of the person stating it.
Certain qualifications allow one to speak knowledgeably and objectively on a subject. It appears that you can do neither.
 
Certain qualifications allow one to speak knowledgeably and objectively on a subject. It appears that you can do neither.

All your qualifications appear to grant you is narcissism. The problem here is that you know you were making disingenuous arguments and instead of just admitting it and moving on like an adult, you've decided that acting like a petulant little child is a better course of action.

You are not a special and unique snowflake. 2+2=5 isn't correct when a mathematician says it. It's always wrong. Qualifications are not a substitute for reason. If you had actual arguments to make, you'd be doing that instead of going on your pathetic little crusade of self-congratulation.
 
You've never seen:

OSX.Leap.A
"Opener"
Renepo.B
OSX.Inqtana.a
OSX.Inqtana.b

I have.

...and I'd say tossing out Trojans (and thus rootkits) is really limiting the field. 90+% of the malware today isn't virii - on any platform.

I stand corrected. There have been a few Mac OS X viruses.

It is said that OSX.Inqtana.a was a proof of concept virus
and has never been seen in the wild. How did you see it?

The biggest problem with OSX.Inqtana.B was not the virus
itself but Sophos antivirus software detecting false positives
and deleting good files. You may have thought you saw it
without actually seeing it.

Renopo.B and opener are the same thing.

All of these viruses are very rare. How did you see them all?
Do you surf Russian porn sites all day?


Trojans can't be considered an OS vulnerability. If you install
unknown software, it could do anything on any platform.

By the way, Symantec claims that there are over one million viruses for Windows.
 
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