You must really like grunge to skip over all the turns rock has had since the 60's.
I am not trying to be a jerk about it, but you need to hear some records. Somebody get this man a playlist!!!
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More truth from Dave Grohl
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You must really like grunge to skip over all the turns rock has had since the 60's.
I am not trying to be a jerk about it, but you need to hear some records. Somebody get this man a playlist!!!
It still sounds an awful lot like he's discouraging anyone from making music that's not directly instrument- and vocal-based. Some folks are just very good at putting sounds together, even if they don't play instruments in a traditional band setting to do it, and the end result can be quite compelling. Much of techno/electronica is about sampling and looping, and is computer-based. I applaud Dave's passion, but he could have been more clear, IMO.
This!!!!!!
Exactly what I like about the Foo's.... you can't fake that.
Fishheadjoe
I don't think we can all agree - because we only need to look at sales numbers to see everyone doesn't agree with that premise.
Some people LOVE those things and think they're the opposite of suck - and those people aren't wrong. They just have a different subjective opinion from you.
Wow.... you guys are still beating this dead horse? No one will ever know what Dave meant other than Dave himself....... and I don't feel he will ever need to explain himself wether you like him or not.... It is, what it is.....
Thats because they record in Daves garage with only tape, no computers what so ever.
Jasisco said:
I don't think that this article correctly interprets ghrol's sentiments, but is a damn good article!
To say the least...He quotes Dave, and then immediately starts talking about electronic dance music, while slamming the Foo Fighters and calling them non-innovative. Just another example of people making others say what they want them to say, and then holding those made-up comments against them. It's completely childish. I don't think this article is good at all simply because the premise that the writer started with in the very beginning is based on a fabrication.
Thats because they record in Daves garage with only tape, no computers what so ever.
...and then they convert that analog tape to digital files and mixdown/produce/master in a computer.
You evidently missed Bruno Mars...
K-I-L-L-E-D I-T
Beach Boys? Not so much
View from my windsheild of course
Probably so, which still is a moot point and doesn't negate Dave's idea for the project, which was to use analog tape for the recording process so that they'd have to deal with the limitations of that process with the hopes of getting a different result in the end, exposing what he called "the human element" of what they do as a collective band.
This is simple stuff folks. Seriously.
Really it is!
As a home recording novice.....recording direct to PC, I have to make a conscious effort not to "overproduce" my recordings with all electronic effects available to me in my DAW. It's very easy to add string sections, keyboards and all other manner of electronic gadgetry and bury the whole feel of the song with all these lush arrangements thus, losing the "human element".
I agree, but even without that, it's just so much easier to punch stuff in when recording digital. The rawness that the Foo Fighters had to live with when recording analog is part of what he wanted. I don't know why folks insist on making his comments into a genre war.
A lot of people are reading a lot in to a pretty simple statement.
Looks like a great number of people in the business (or wishing they were in the business) of making a bunch of money manufacturing disposable product are projecting.
Looks like a great number of people in the business (or wishing they were in the business) of making a bunch of money manufacturing disposable product are projecting.
It is also worth pointing out that some of the most sterile, lifeless, bland, over produced, non-human recordings ever made date from the mid 80's. These records were made with the same set of tools the new Foo Fighters record was made with.
It's not about the tools. That's all smoke from people unable to think critically getting defensive about the fact that someone made a record in a different way than they do.
It's not about the tools. That's all smoke from people unable to think critically getting defensive about the fact that someone made a record in a different way than they do.
Her ya' go.....Dave just posted this on the FF Facebook page.......
"Oh, what a night we had last Sunday at the 54th Annual Grammy Awards. The glitz! The Glamour! SEACREST! Where do I begin?? Chillin' with Lil' Wayne...meeting Cyndi Lauper's adorable mother...the complimentary blinking Coldplay bracelet.....much too much to recap. It's really is still a bit of a blur. But, if there's one thing that I remember VERY clearly, it was accepting the Grammy for Best Rock Performance...and then saying this:
"To me this award means a lot because it shows that the human element of music is what's important. Singing into a microphone and learning to play an instrument and learning to do your craft, that's the most important thing for people to do... It's not about being perfect, it's not about sounding absolutely correct, it's not about what goes on in a computer. It's about what goes on in here [your heart] and what goes on in here [your head]."
Not the Gettysburg Address, but hey......I'm a drummer, remember?
Well, me and my big mouth. Never has a 33 second acceptance rant evoked such caps-lock postboard rage as my lil' ode to analog recording has. OK....maybe Kanye has me on this one, but....Imma let you finish....just wanted to clarify something...
I love music. I love ALL kinds of music. From Kyuss to Kraftwerk, Pinetop Perkins to Prodigy, Dead Kennedys to Deadmau5.....I love music. Electronic or acoustic, it doesn't matter to me. The simple act of creating music is a beautiful gift that ALL human beings are blessed with. And the diversity of one musician's personality to the next is what makes music so exciting and.....human.
That's exactly what I was referring to. The "human element". That thing that happens when a song speeds up slightly, or a vocal goes a little sharp. That thing that makes people sound like PEOPLE. Somewhere along the line those things became "bad" things, and with the great advances in digital recording technology over the years they became easily "fixed". The end result? I my humble opinion.....a lot of music that sounds perfect, but lacks personality. The one thing that makes music so exciting in the first place.
And, unfortunately, some of these great advances have taken the focus off of the actual craft of performance. Look, I am not Yngwie Malmsteen. I am not John Bonham. Hell...I'm not even Josh Groban, for that matter. But I try really ****ing hard so that I don't have to rely on anything but my hands and my heart to play a song. I do the best that I possibly can within my limitations, and accept that it sounds like me. Because that's what I think is most important. It should be real, right? Everybody wants something real.
I don't know how to do what Skrillex does (though I ****ing love it) but I do know that the reason he is so loved is because he sounds like Skrillex, and that's badass. We have a different process and a different set of tools, but the "craft" is equally as important, I'm sure. I mean.....if it were that easy, anyone could do it, right? (See what I did there?)
So, don't give me two Crown Royals and then ask me to make a speech at your wedding, because I might just bust into the advantages of recording to 2 inch tape.
Now, I think I have to go scream at some kids to get off my lawn.
Stay frosty.
Davemau5"
"Oh, what a night we had last Sunday at the 54th Annual Grammy Awards. The glitz! The Glamour! SEACREST! Where do I begin?? Chillin' with Lil' Wayne...meeting Cyndi Lauper's adorable mother...the complimentary blinking Coldplay bracelet.....much too much to recap. It's really is still a bit of a blur. But, if there's one thing that I remember VERY clearly, it was accepting the Grammy for Best Rock Performance...and then saying this:
"To me this award means a lot because it shows that the human element of music is what's important. Singing into a microphone and learning to play an instrument and learning to do your craft, that's the most important thing for people to do... It's not about being perfect, it's not about sounding absolutely correct, it's not about what goes on in a computer. It's about what goes on in here [your heart] and what goes on in here [your head]."
Not the Gettysburg Address, but hey......I'm a drummer, remember?
Well, me and my big mouth. Never has a 33 second acceptance rant evoked such caps-lock postboard rage as my lil' ode to analog recording has. OK....maybe Kanye has me on this one, but....Imma let you finish....just wanted to clarify something...
I love music. I love ALL kinds of music. From Kyuss to Kraftwerk, Pinetop Perkins to Prodigy, Dead Kennedys to Deadmau5.....I love music. Electronic or acoustic, it doesn't matter to me. The simple act of creating music is a beautiful gift that ALL human beings are blessed with. And the diversity of one musician's personality to the next is what makes music so exciting and.....human.
That's exactly what I was referring to. The "human element". That thing that happens when a song speeds up slightly, or a vocal goes a little sharp. That thing that makes people sound like PEOPLE. Somewhere along the line those things became "bad" things, and with the great advances in digital recording technology over the years they became easily "fixed". The end result? I my humble opinion.....a lot of music that sounds perfect, but lacks personality. The one thing that makes music so exciting in the first place.
And, unfortunately, some of these great advances have taken the focus off of the actual craft of performance. Look, I am not Yngwie Malmsteen. I am not John Bonham. Hell...I'm not even Josh Groban, for that matter. But I try really ****ing hard so that I don't have to rely on anything but my hands and my heart to play a song. I do the best that I possibly can within my limitations, and accept that it sounds like me. Because that's what I think is most important. It should be real, right? Everybody wants something real.
I don't know how to do what Skrillex does (though I ****ing love it) but I do know that the reason he is so loved is because he sounds like Skrillex, and that's badass. We have a different process and a different set of tools, but the "craft" is equally as important, I'm sure. I mean.....if it were that easy, anyone could do it, right? (See what I did there?)
So, don't give me two Crown Royals and then ask me to make a speech at your wedding, because I might just bust into the advantages of recording to 2 inch tape.
Now, I think I have to go scream at some kids to get off my lawn.
Stay frosty.
Davemau5"
