I would agree. lol I'm not a fan of the American standard line, for that reason.I played a bass at GC the other day that fit that description.
It was a Fender American Standard.
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My Day at D. Lakin basses
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It's $3.50 or so for a Double Double; when you buy one you're getting non-frozen beef, fresh produce including tomatoes, etc. There's like actual nutritional value there, it's fast food, but there's actual protein, vitamins in the tomatoes, etc.
Last time I checked a Big Mac is the same price; no tomatoes, soggy lettuce, weird McDonalds onion bits. 0 nutritional value.
Hard to see how that makes In N Out expensive, but YMMV.
Same here. It matters to me because I am an American. I prefer to buy from a company that hires American workers, pays taxes to support communities here in America, helps maintain our manufacturing base here. We are encouraged to be mindless consumers, forgetting that what we choose to buy will shape the world that we and our children will inhabit.
Haha, really? You left out the half of my post, where I provided the basis for my opinion. Meanwhile, your post provided no context--and yet you're apparently convinced it's fact. (It ain't, unless you've personally weighed all G&Ls for the last 20 years.) Accountability, indeed.
Here are the recent words of a G&L dealer with a TB forum. They certainly support the notion that weight continues to be an issue for G&L.
You can't have it both ways. You can't have a strong opinion based on your "experience", then immediately state that you don't actually have any experience because you haven't "tried many G&L basses". Much less owned many (any?), and even further less, actually weighed any. You're completely out of your element on this one, perpetuating a myth by relying on hearsay on an internet forum.
Additionally, I don't think I have to weigh "every G&L ever built" to have a solid grasp of the weights. I've weighed all my gear for the last 10+ years, on a proper shipping scale. Having owned 60+ G&L basses over the last few years, I'm at least not talking outta my azz here. Never had an alder body G&L 4 string weigh in at 9.5 lbs or greater. A couple at 9+, most at sub-9, and many at 8-8 1/2 lbs. Never had ANY G&L bass weigh over 10 1/2 lbs, not the vintage ones, nor the fivers.
+1 Most of the USA G&L's I've played are on the lighter side. It's the Tribute series that's usually on the heavier side. My L2500 Tribute is about 11 pounds.
Yeah sorry about that, still learning how to do all this on my phone. The first video is in the mix and the second is isolated bass. Use a good pair of headphones and you can really hear the differences...thru my Apple earbuds not so much.
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The internet is so fun. What started as shameless fanboy ranting for one bass brand turned into burger sales and PRS GAS for many, if not most, readers.
I can only add that In & Out Burger is so unfortunately named that I have never stepped inside one. Now I'll probably give it a shot.
I can only add that In & Out Burger is so unfortunately named that I have never stepped inside one. Now I'll probably give it a shot.
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The Fender '66 Jazz Bass (made overseas, NOT in U.S.) goes for $1149, and the bridge & tuners are not as goos as the D. Lakin's (USA Hipshot). When the '66 came out, people were not slingin' poop at Fender the way some have at D. Lakin's Basses here. What's up with that?
People just are resistant to new things....or new takes on existing items I guess....
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Yeah, and plus Lakland's Skylines are better than some made-in-USA basses out there. Does anyone recall that Darryl Jones used an overseas made bass on tour with, wait...what band again? Oh yeah...THE ROLLING STONES
I'm very happy with my Carvins. I'm very happy with my Lakland. Heck, I'm happy with any bass that is well made, plays well and sounds good. I have absolutely no idea if I would like a Lakin nor not. I have not played one. Neither have most of you posting in this thread.
Maybe I'm odd this way, but I don't look first at where the components were made, where the bass was put together, or what the current bass fashion sentiments are on Talk Bass. I plan on withholding judgement until I can get a Lakin in my hands and try it. Then I can make an informed comment about the quality and value of these new basses.
I like to know what my money is paying for, so origin of manufacturer does matter. That doesn't mean that I'm a snob and only play US made instruments, but if I'm buying it I want to know to make sure I'm getting a fair value. Would anyone pay $3,000 for a Korean made bass? I highly doubt it.
To my ear the Lakin bass didn't sound any better than the Fenders did in those videos so for my money I'd just stick with a USA Fender and have a better resale value down the road. Nothing against the Lakin, it's just that for around the same price point I'd rather have the original.
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Guys Joe is only 17 years old and please with all due respect allow him to express his experiences with Dan's new basses.
There is not a luthier who is in the business of attempting to run a successful business capable of pleasing every one, again there is no luthier capable of pulling such a feat.
Dan's basses are very nice and there are those who will like then and those who won't.
I have played my share of his new basses and they are very nice and well put together and even though sound is subjective, if one were to put country of origin aside and acknowledge that maybe it nay not be their sound but basses really do sound good but not necessarily good enough to warrant a purchase. They have a inherent punch that borders on a nice even aggressivness but of course that aggressiveness can be dialed back and remember these basses are passive.
And for those who are into active basses, there will be an active model available soon.
As far as colors, well the color options seem to be extremely unlimited for there seem to be 100's to choose from if not thousands and that alone may appeal to those who may want a color that no one else has, especially since there is no up charge.
A gig bag is coming with the basses, Dan is working on that and it's taking a while mainly because he's looking for a manufacture that has that just right quality.
Dan's basses may look like Fenders but they definitely do not sound like a Fender, These basses have a sound all their own.
Are the basses for every one? no but then again no one brand is.
I'm glad for Dan and Dan is going to be just fine with his new company.
There is not a luthier who is in the business of attempting to run a successful business capable of pleasing every one, again there is no luthier capable of pulling such a feat.
Dan's basses are very nice and there are those who will like then and those who won't.
I have played my share of his new basses and they are very nice and well put together and even though sound is subjective, if one were to put country of origin aside and acknowledge that maybe it nay not be their sound but basses really do sound good but not necessarily good enough to warrant a purchase. They have a inherent punch that borders on a nice even aggressivness but of course that aggressiveness can be dialed back and remember these basses are passive.
And for those who are into active basses, there will be an active model available soon.
As far as colors, well the color options seem to be extremely unlimited for there seem to be 100's to choose from if not thousands and that alone may appeal to those who may want a color that no one else has, especially since there is no up charge.
A gig bag is coming with the basses, Dan is working on that and it's taking a while mainly because he's looking for a manufacture that has that just right quality.
Dan's basses may look like Fenders but they definitely do not sound like a Fender, These basses have a sound all their own.
Are the basses for every one? no but then again no one brand is.
I'm glad for Dan and Dan is going to be just fine with his new company.
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If you're willing to shrug off weights provided by sellers ('cause yeah, of course they want to OVERstate the weight
) and the statements of a dealer of G&Ls as "Internet hearsay", have fun with that.
If you're willing to shrug off weights provided by sellers ('cause yeah, of course they want to OVERstate the weight
Yeah right. Here are the dealers you're referring to. What weights? Just guys saying they request light weight basses from G&L, no mention of weights, or models, ash/alder bodies, fivers. And one guy saying "no more 12 pound basses in my store".
You're gonna have to show me a 12 pound G&L bass, because that's well into the extreme upper range of the old Peavey T-series basses or a Gibson RD or Les Paul. Extreme upper range, and most of those boat anchor Peavey T basses don't even weigh 12 pounds.
Here are the posters you quoted...
bhunt1 said: ↑
"Interesting. I think Greg usually orders G&Ls with the request for lighter weight, but it's luck of the draw what you actually get".
RocketMusic said: ↑
"And I do indeed typically request "Lightweight" when I order G&L's, unless the customer prefers otherwise. G&L makes no guarantees about hitting a specific weight range, but I like to think it helps..."
RocketMusic said: ↑
"I did recently notice that G&L has been including the weight of every bass on their "available list" now. That's a list of ready-to-ship instruments that gets emailed to dealers periodically. So I can now make an informed decision about which instruments to grab. I LOVE that, no more 12 pounders in my store! LOL"
So where are these "weights provided by dealers"? It occurs to me that it's futile having a discussion with someone who just makes things up. Fascinating, yet futile.
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I made nothing up. If you bothered to go back and read my first response to you, you'd see I was referring to "sellers" in the TB classifieds. And that "guy" I quoted is Greg from Rocket Music, a G&L dealer.
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