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My Dirt Bender - Another Jounal

I've been looking to move on from the MBD2 I've had for a year. It just doesn't have enough mids for my setup, which is anchored by a SLO preamp with the Fender tone stack.

Looking at the Barbershop, Lil Fella, and maybe the Lucydreamer. Having another stage in a small pedal would be great, but I'd rather have one great overdrive stage than a bunch of versatility.

Thanks for doing this and documenting it so well.
 
I'd like to rant a bit more.
When I tried to put the Lucydreamer on my board, I realized that the left side houses both the 9V in and the 1/4" out. These two are so close to each other that you can't use pancake 1/4" jacks and have them point anywhere but the wrongest of directions. Any other configuration would have made more sense. I can see that a relatively small pedal with two foot switches has side mounted jacks, because you need some room left and right to safely operate the foot switches without pressing the one on the neighboring pedal, too.
But why on <insert your preferred deity>'s earth is it necessary to stick the 9V plug directly next to it? It's not exactly a small pedal. It's tall. If I were to incorporate that on my board, I'd have to use a different cable.

I'll play a bit more later, but my first impression was: This pedal is well made and looks stunning. The knobs are firm. The 'party trick' of the Lucy is that it has a different gain setting on the second foot switch, which can be set with an internal trim pot. And I must admit that this works well. You dial in a little grind and when you hit the second stage it's full on blowtorch in your face.
Apart from gain and volume the other two knobs are blend and tone.
In my last post I was ranting about bad documentation in the manual.
Now that I tried the pedal for a bit, I'll have to take that back.

From what I can tell right now, the Lucydreamer is boring.
The tone knob does tone. Turn it up and you have everything, dial back to loose the highs.
The blend knob blends dry and wet.
The level knob does volume.
The gain knob does gain.
That really is all there is to it.

Don't get me wrong when I say boring. It's good. And from a short test drive I can say that they got that second stage tuned in really well.
However, it's not exactly versatile.

I'll play it some more before I say anything else.
 
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I'd like to rant a bit more.
When I tried to put the Lucydreamer on my board, I realized that the left side houses both the 9V in and the 1/4" out. These two are so close to each other that you can't use pancake 1/4" jacks and have them point anywhere but the wrongest of directions. Any other configuration would have made more sense. I can see that a relatively small pedal with two foot switches has side mounted jacks, because you need some room left and right to safely operate the foot switches without pressing the one on the neighboring pedal, too.
But why on <insert your preferred deity>'s earth is it necessary to stick the 9V plug directly next to it? It's not exactly a small pedal. It's tall. If I were to incorporate that on my board, I'd have to use a different cable.

I would have a Bass Waterfall on my board if it had top jacks. And I would be a lot less hesitant to get a Lucydreamer or Barbershop if they had top jacks. If Iron Ether can figure out how to put in, out, expression, and power all on the top, so can others. And I don't buy the piece about two foot switches necessitating side jacks. Give the player that option.

Drives me nuts how this isn't industry standard at this point.
 
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Just have a look at this.
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You can see the Mini in the background, doing the same thing, but in a way that makes sense. I still would have preferred a version with top mounted jacks, but I call myself lucky to have scored one at all.




I now stand by my first impression. The Lucydreamer, for my environment, is good, but boring.
Compared to the intricate dance the combo of the UA and the Mini can lead, it's rather bland.

It is very useful when you've got your sound dialed in and want to add two levels of dirt. The bump in volume is not as drastic as it is with many others and to my ears, it's perfectly balanced. You basically bump in volume what you lose in the mix by having heavier distortion. The tone knob lets you take the edge off a bit and the blend knob gives you the option to go all in on the gain and retain some definition, or just have a bit of clean lowend as a foundation for your dirt on top. It reacts very well to playing dynamics, all across the fingerboard and it offers a wide range of useful levels of overdrive and distortion. It reminds me a bit, because it has a similar knob layout, of the Crazy Tube Locomotive. The Locomotive - or at least the version I had, did boost the top end a bit and took away a bit of the bottom, which suited the layout very well.
 
Here's a question to those that have first hand experience with the Southampton Fifth Gear:

What do the control knobs do when you use them?

I have not found any useful videos on bass. The Southampton video has the bass in the background playing through it, but that's not really showing what it can do.
What does the Heat knob do? Is it similar to the Barbershop's SAG and the SS/BS Mini's BIAS ?
They say that Heat and Gain interact with each other, which makes me assume it might be something like it.
If possible, could you, dear owner of the Fifth Gear, compare the pedal to any of those I got my hands on during writing this thread?

I'm asking because as I'm selling off redundant pedals, money starts accumulating in my PayPal account and I'm considering one last leg of the trip and get a fifth gear and maybe a Hudson Broadcast AP.

I'll be able to play the Mini with a full band tomorrow but I think it'll perform great.
 
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Here's a question to those that have first hand experience with the Southampton Fifth Gear:

What do the control knobs do when you use them?

I have not found any useful videos on bass. The Southampton video has the bass in the background playing through it, but that's not really showing what it can do.
What does the Heat knob do? Is it similar to the Barbershop's SAG and the SS/BS Mini's BIAS ?
They say that Heat and Gain interact with each other, which makes me assume it might be something like it.
If possible, could you, dear owner of the Fifth Gear, compare the pedal to any of those I got my hands on during writing this thread?

I'm asking because as I'm selling off redundant pedals, money starts accumulating in my PayPal account and I'm considering one last leg of the trip and get a fifth gear and maybe a Hudson Broadcast AP.

I'll be able to play the Mini with a full band tomorrow but I think it'll perform great.

I was wondering the same thing recently.

It’s amazing that one of the Southampton partners posts frequently here, where the Fifth Gear has been well liked for years, yet there are zero bass demos of it. Gives an idea how few talk bassers are actually bass players.

Good luck!
 
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well, i think that the southampton web page explains it pretty well other than the "volume" being self explanatory.

"The 'gain' and 'heat' knobs are extremely interactive - with 'heat' off the 'gain' knob sets your drive level with a relatively flat EQ. Turning up 'heat' will add some midrange and a lot more grit, pushing the overdrive into a huge wall of distortion. The Fifth Gear has a passive volume roll off to tame the pedal when the other knobs are cranked.

'Heat' changes the DC bias which causes static to be heard. The ‘gain’ knob can also produce static. This is totally normal and will not damage the pedal in any way. You can silence the static by turning down the volume before adjusting."


the heat knob is not like the barbershop's sag control that lowers the voltage to the entire circuit. it just changes the bias to the transistor.
 
I was wondering the same thing recently.

It’s amazing that one of the Southampton partners posts frequently here, where the Fifth Gear has been well liked for years, yet there are zero bass demos of it. Gives an idea how few talk bassers are actually bass players.

Good luck!
It IS weird, this pedal is recommended in so many threads, yet very elusive on youtube.
 
Just when I thought I had it all done, someone contacted me because of a month old FB post where I was looking for a Hudson Broadcast. I was offered the dual FS version that runs 24V internally.
I checked what was left in my PayPal account and did the math for what a used one would be worth and the two numbers were quite close to each other so I offered that amount, to which the seller agreed.
It seems like I will keep the wheel spinning for a bit longer.
 
Just when I thought I had it all done, someone contacted me because of a month old FB post where I was looking for a Hudson Broadcast. I was offered the dual FS version that runs 24V internally.
I checked what was left in my PayPal account and did the math for what a used one would be worth and the two numbers were quite close to each other so I offered that amount, to which the seller agreed.
It seems like I will keep the wheel spinning for a bit longer.

I have the Broadcast 24V, and it's a great sounding pedal! It adds a touch of high end bite that I think you'll like. I particularly like it with the Cali 76 compressor on my board.
 
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Well, first I got to give it a try and then I can worry about form factors.

Last night, I took off the UA and swapped it for the Ictineo.
The SS/BS Mini into the Ictineo is even sweeter than the Mini alone.
I've set the Ictineo for a mid hump, with both the 600Hz and the 1k activated.
This gives my tone a lot more capability of elbowing through the mix, but it looses some of the sweetness.

It also made me wonder if I'd like to have something like a BOSS ES-5. If I was considering migrating to a bigger board, that would be the case. Yesterday I struggled switching between song parts because there were parts with reverb and overdrive followed by clean ones and hitting three switches between the 4 and the 1 is a bit of a struggle.
 
I really managed to not try out the Broadcast yesterday.
When work was finished, I jumped straight into my car and headed off to Hamburg to see Brass Against live on stage:
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Oh, and later that evening, on the same stage, I also saw the second band of the evening: tool.

When I came home, it was two in the morning and I was too stoked and too tired to try to play myself.
 
When I came home this afternoon, no power in the world would have been able to get between me and my pedal testing habits. So I came in the door and went straight ... for some chores I forgot about. But with the Kitchen spotless and the floors vacuumed I could finally sit down and draft that minty box for pedalboard duty.
I got mine as is - no box no manual. Well, I've been reading on the interwebs and so I knew what to expect.
The actual gain knobs for both channels are hidden on the inside, on the outside is the gain trim knob and the two volume knobs. Explained in my words, on the inside you set the difference in gain between the two channels. The trim knob adds to that. Can it also subtract? I have no idea, but I'll check.
Once you got your head wrapped around all that, it's pretty straightforward.
I must admit that I love to have two separate master volume knobs on a two channel pedal. I hate it when adding more gain also bumps up the volume and you make everyone jump when you hit that second stage.
The tonal options are somewhat limited. The only thing you can do is cut the bass, but that knob is designed with a guitarist in mind, so you're cutting right into the meat when you touch the knob, so you don't.

Now, I set the gain trim to about 10 o'clock and both volume knobs to noon, and plugged it in.
When I hit the button, I was surprised that I had exactly matched unity, because there was no bump or loss in volume to be detected. It sounded awesome, but there was not even the slightest hint of overdrive.
I raised the gain trim, but still no grind. To make sure it's working I hit the second channel and holy smokes that is what happens when you push a recording console way past 11 and the unpleasant distortion is so strong it is getting unpleasant distortion on its own and two wrongs make a right. That is fuzz. No other word for it.
So I opened up the little fella and poked around the innards. Nice. Obviously hand made. And that little transformer in there is cute. Not too much else going on, which makes the two trim pots easy to find.
Labeling them would have been a nice touch, but I found out which is which - because one was dimed all the way and one was set to 0. I turned them both to something I deemed more reasonable and went back to playing.
The fuzz side got a bit more friendly, but on the low gain side, I could not make it distort at all.
That 24V thing really gives it some headroom, it seems.
Well, at some point a massive facepalm was due. Two knobs. The pedal is british. The british are driving on the wrong side of the road and they use Orange amps, where the controls are left handed, too.
I did assume that the right button was 'on/off' while the left button was 'moar!'.
I went outside and got into the passenger seat of my car, pretending to hold a steering wheel -- and made wroom wroom noises for a while until my brain realigned, upon which I went back to the Broadcast and managed to use it right (which was now left) for the first time.
Now everything made perfect sense. There is still plenty of headroom, but you can sense that this pedal is meant to be used with a guitar rather than a bass.
Set to low gain, so that the amount of dirt is controlled by the playing dynamics, it is hard to play in the low registers without audible distortion, while struggling to get some hair in the upper registers.

At first glance, this did not look very useful to me. But hey, It's a pedal with two foot switches. The higher gain setting was a ton of fun once I tamed it down a lot (well it was fun when dimed, too - only not very useful for my purposes). The lower gain setting with the gain reduced even more cleared up nearly completely.
Please forgive me If I have to resort to audiophile vocabulary here, but I felt that with the Broadcast set to super low gain, my sound tidied up in the higher spectrum while the mids saw a hint of focus. It's one of those effects where you are not entirely sure if you can hear them and then you shut it off and it suddenly becomes apparent because the change in sound is there.
Depending on what you have in your signal chain I think many bass sounds could actually benefit from having a clean Broadcast on the pedalboard.
 
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However, I was not entirely able to make up my mind if I prefer a clean broadcast in my signal chain to no broadcast in my signal chain.
The highs of the Noble are such a sweet treat, there is no real reason to touch them. Or is there?
I'll have to flop forth and back a couple times more to make up my mind.

However.
Setting up for low gain duty and pitting the Broadcast against the SS/BS Mini on my pedalboard has been an unfair thing to do. This bout was rigged.
The Mini does not only play very well into the BDPG, it also pairs up very nicely with the Ictineo that has taken the place of the UA for a while to see If it's useful in that position.
Every given combination of pedals I use will get a pleasant flavor of dirt thrown in when the Mini gets the nod ... of my foot.
How can you challenge a pedal that's so well integrated into a system like that? By being a pedal that is even better integrated into said system - which, no surprise, the Broadcast is not.
Toying around with the Broadcast netted me some great sounds and I'd absolutely consider it one of the always on pedals on the pedalboard for my stoner rock band. Only I don't have a pedalboard for a stoner rock band because I don't have a stoner rock band.

I will toy around more tomorrow, but the simple fact that I plugged back to the Mini, hit the switch, and all the licks I tried to make sound good with the Broadcast suddenly were flowing from my fingertips without the slightest effort seem to mark the Mini as my kind of pedal.
 
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You write well, el m. Entertaining.

Gonna express respect that you can be cold & clear though all this, rather than fawning & gushing like a little girl at every demo or front-running excuses for things that aren’t ideal.

When’s the full verdict?
 

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