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My preamp journey

@el murdoque & @moon-bass: "Blame not your brother for your lack of restraint, especially if the suggestions prove most true" ought to be a TB Commandment.

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And with the Super 400 and the DMC controller finally shown up, I now have two out of the three boards completed. First, my Bourbon St. board. Small, light, fits in the Tick add-on for my gig bag, and flexible. I live a few blocks from Bourbon, so this, coupled with either a Barefaced 10 or my Hartke combo makes for an easy walk. I can swap out preamps to fit the gig or my mood, and can add a speaker sim with additional EQ for samples and fretless gigs.
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And pedalboard number two. This is my medium sized board. Much more flexible tone wise, more suited to bigger spaces and gigs. Sounds killer, with tons of tubey goodness.

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I see you have 3 preamps on one board (2 of which I own).Do you switch for different songs? I also own a bunch of Synth pedals.I too have that same Disaster Area switcher, how's it working for you.Mine is still unused and I think it's about time I include it. Maybe great minds do think alike after all.
 
I see you have 3 preamps on one board (2 of which I own).Do you switch for different songs? I also own a bunch of Synth pedals.I too have that same Disaster Area switcher, how's it working for you.Mine is still unused and I think it's about time I include it. Maybe great minds do think alike after all.
of course great minds think alike!

The three preamps -

The Oracle is my base sound - it's always on.
The PAX I use when I want a nice thick tone - something with more body and less highs than my "normal" tone
The AMT A is used when I want just a touch of grind - I have it set so that it creates a little bit of OD and fat bottom end for songs that need it. I love that fender tone stack.

The DMC - so far, so good. I just got it over the weekend. It works as designed, but it's not perfect. The biggest issue I have is that it doesn't read the preset names from the C4, rather you have to manually enter them into the DMC. There is a web based tool, but I can't get it to read my DMC - which I think is an issue with my laptop. It would be great if there was an export utility on the C4 and an import ability on the DMC, but otherwise it works great, and having 99 presets on the C4 instead of 6 is a game changer. Even if I don't get the DMC text to work it's still a keeper.
 
of course great minds think alike!

The three preamps -

The Oracle is my base sound - it's always on.
The PAX I use when I want a nice thick tone - something with more body and less highs than my "normal" tone
The AMT A is used when I want just a touch of grind - I have it set so that it creates a little bit of OD and fat bottom end for songs that need it. I love that fender tone stack.

The DMC - so far, so good. I just got it over the weekend. It works as designed, but it's not perfect. The biggest issue I have is that it doesn't read the preset names from the C4, rather you have to manually enter them into the DMC. There is a web based tool, but I can't get it to read my DMC - which I think is an issue with my laptop. It would be great if there was an export utility on the C4 and an import ability on the DMC, but otherwise it works great, and having 99 presets on the C4 instead of 6 is a game changer. Even if I don't get the DMC text to work it's still a keeper.

Same here, now that I have the DMC micro I always regret not bringing it to jams or recording. I have really put off trying to get the names input for everything but have started by organizing them.

Having similar sounds near each other in the banks really helps find what I'm looking for - I have basic Octavers in the lower banks, then moogs, then filters, then leads, then extras/guitar oriented and sequencers near the end. This approach has really made it more fun to go through the sounds on the fly but I'd like the actual words written out eventually. It's a little tough to wrangle at first but for the size and price I don't know how you could do much better!
 
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So, I may actually go back to HPF/LPF - long story short, I live directly across the street from a couple of massive sources of radio waves/EMI - including a broadcast tower for a local radio station and some very, very big lights and a pump station. My gear always buzzes (60hz) at least a little and I often pick up radio stations.

Since I've been using more OD (high gain) pedals, the buzz has gotten intolerable. The fix? An HPF, set slightly above 60hz.

So now, I think I'm going to ditch the analog cab sim and pick up a few of the Broughton LPFs (I already have a couple of the HPFs). The LPFs rarely show up used. And silly me, I had an LPF/HPF combo but sold it when I got the speaker sim.

I am using Broughton RFE for the analog cab sim role. You should try it if you can find one...
 
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I can't imagine my bass signal being so dull as just to plugging into FOH with my bass, a DI, and nothing else. Maybe 20 years ago.

IME, there is close to zero likelihood that if one sends dry signal to FOH, it will come dry from the PA these days.

There will be significant EQing, plus HPF and/or LPF.

Compression/limiting at FOH is a standard too.

Last but not least: many sound engineers apply plugins in their digital mixers to bass as a default (usually Ampeg-based emulation).
 
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IME, there is close to zero likelihood that if one sends dry signal to FOH, it will come dry from the PA these days.

There will be significant EQing, plus HPF and/or LPF.

Compression/limiting at FOH is a standard too.

Last but not least: many sound engineers apply plugins in their digital mixers to bass as a default (usually Ampeg-based emulation).

I have to agree. My home PA system is an active monitor wedge plus a Behringer Flow 8 mixer which cost me a bit more than two hundred bucks.
Even that tiny mixer offers me two FX units, HPF, EQ (one EQ strip with four bands for each channel plus master EQ with 9 parametric bands) and compression. It is surprising how good a sound I can coax from it by plugging my bass directly into the mixer.
 
IME, there is close to zero likelihood that if one sends dry signal to FOH, it will come dry from the PA these days.

There will be significant EQing, plus HPF and/or LPF.

Compression/limiting at FOH is a standard too.

Last but not least: many sound engineers apply plugins in their digital mixers to bass as a default (usually Ampeg-based emulation).
that's assuming you have a decent PA. A lot of the places that I play have great systems, and a lot have crappy systems that pretty much just do vocals - and of course, everything in between.

I'd rather give the FOH a good bass tone that I am happy with rather than have them do what they think it needs. If someone took my tone and added an Ampeg simulation without asking me, I'd be kinda pissed lol.

Aside from that, they need to get my wet signal from effects and OD.
 
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that's assuming you have a decent PA. A lot of the places that I play have great systems, and a lot have crappy systems that pretty much just do vocals - and of course, everything in between.

I'd rather give the FOH a good bass tone that I am happy with rather than have them do what they think it needs.

Understood. I, too, prefer to give to FOH the tone I like. My point was that's it's usually not the end of the world (with decent FOH) if one sends them dry signal...

If someone took my tone and added an Ampeg simulation without asking me, I'd be kinda pissed lol.

that's assuming you know about it...:-)
 
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