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N.B.A. thread

Been 2 days now and i still havent recovered from that devastating collapse and defeat. Sure hope they can put them away tomorrow but for the first time all series i have doubt.

Pierce keeps doing amazing things too bad it was a split second too late. And crazy turn around to end the 3rd in the GSW memphis game. That was a clear foul on Green that should have been 3 free throws cut the lead to 4 i think but doesnt go called and Curry hits that ridiculous shot and theyre back down by 10. Tough luck
 
I actually have nothing against GSW, except for that chump Draymond Green lol But theyre young and have a solid team for years to come. If Lebron can finally bring Cleveland a championship it be nice for that city. He already has his rings, at this point i think thats the only reason he went back home which is admirable in my book.
 
I'll be the first to admit I've paid very little attention to basketball this entire season, and even (uncharacteristically) to the playoffs so far, so perhaps I've missed some drama or something that perhaps recontextualizes this current scenario such that it's a bit more interesting that I'm finding it, but...

Is anyone else really disappointed that we're going into the conference finals with the #1 vs #2 teams? Did it really just play out exactly like a ignorant non-fan would have predicted if they'd seen the brackets ~4 weeks ago? Other than the first round series with the Spurs going to the Game 7 buzzer, have there been any surprises?
 
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Wow did not even realize all the 1s and 2s made it through. As far as any surprise to me atleast since i think the seeding is horrible, yeah i was surprised. But i can see how someone just deciding to tune is sees the matchups as expected. If the trend holds guess itll be GSW vs Atlanta
 
Wow did not even realize all the 1s and 2s made it through. As far as any surprise to me atleast since i think the seeding is horrible, yeah i was surprised. But i can see how someone just deciding to tune is sees the matchups as expected. If the trend holds guess itll be GSW vs Atlanta
I can't see the Hawks getting past the Cavs, especially if Shumpert, Thompson and Delawhatever keep playing this well. Although I'm rooting for Atlanta because of Horford.

My primary and secondary teams are out, so it's down to alma mater affiliations for me. Each of the four remaining teams has a Florida Gator on it (Horford, Miller, Brewer and David Lee, though the latter isn't playing). Miller already has 2 rings, and Brewer technically has one from the Mavs (though he didn't play in the series).
 
I can't see the Hawks getting past the Cavs, especially if Shumpert, Thompson and Delawhatever keep playing this well. Although I'm rooting for Atlanta because of Horford.

My primary and secondary teams are out, so it's down to alma mater affiliations for me. Each of the four remaining teams has a Florida Gator on it (Horford, Miller, Brewer and David Lee, though the latter isn't playing). Miller already has 2 rings, and Brewer technically has one from the Mavs (though he didn't play in the series).

Completely agree with Hawks not getting past the Cavs. As for the Rockets - Warriors match up - sure the Warriors swept us in the regular season 4-0 and by pretty big margins in some of those games but the exact same thing happened last year with Miami/Brooklyn and we all know the out come of that.
 
Yeah i dont mind if Atlanta goes to the finals. It exemplifies team ball and great managment and goes away from the "big 3 trend" from the last few years. But idk if they have enough to beat out LeBron and all the surrounding pieces who have come alive in the playoffs.

And yeah Rockets got swept during the Season by GSW but i dont expect that here. Ultimately though i think memphis taking it to them to start last series woke up the warriors and i dont think theres any stopping them.
 
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That was a good read. And i agree part of the reason i personally somewhat loathe him is because i know he has the talent to just utterly dominate the right way. I was a HUGE fan of his in OKC. You know back where he didnt have the whole shot clock to burn a possesion, the minutes a game to even attempt to draw 20 free throws. It was plug me in, ok instant offense look what i can do.

Reminds me of a article i read a few weeks back where they were calling him the magician. Basically he gives the illusion of being a superstar, either by the box score lovers, or by the occasional sweet crossover or quick pull up. But not really an elite player among the ranks of the top 10 players in the league. Obviously his horrible defense doesnt help. I dont agree with all that but really dug the magician anology. Creates the illusion of a foul, creates the illusion of a walking triple double machine with empty stats, when he can just flat out go out and score over you if he just tried.
 
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That was a good read. And i agree part of the reason i personally somewhat loathe him is because i know he has the talent to just utterly dominate the right way. I was a HUGE fan of his in OKC. You know back where he didnt have the whole shot clock to burn a possesion, the minutes a game to even attempt to draw 20 free throws. It was plug me in, ok instant offense look what i can do.

Reminds me of a article i read a few weeks back where they were calling him the magician. Basically he gives the illusion of being a superstar, either by the box score lovers, or by the occasional sweet crossover or quick pull up. But not really an elite player among the ranks of the top 10 players in the league. Obviously his horrible defense doesnt help. I dont agree with all that but really dug the magician anology. Creates the illusion of a foul, creates the illusion of a walking triple double machine with empty stats, when he can just flat out go out and score over you if he just tried.

Wait, did you really just say Harden is not elite amongst the top 10 players in TODAY's league? Please tell me you meant top 10 of all time. Of course he doesn't even come close to par with the top 10 ever, but he is a top 5 elite player in today's league. I don't even know how you can argue that if you actually watch him play. Also, Harden can't play defense circle-jerk is getting pretty old. Harden has made leaps and bounds in his defense this season compared to the past couple.
 
Wait, did you really just say Harden is not elite amongst the top 10 players in TODAY's league? Please tell me you meant top 10 of all time. Of course he doesn't even come close to par with the top 10 ever, but he is a top 5 elite player in today's league. I don't even know how you can argue that if you actually watch him play. Also, Harden can't play defense circle-jerk is getting pretty old. Harden has made leaps and bounds in his defense this season compared to the past couple.

Oh no my bad maybe i should have made a better job of quoting the parts i was referencing the "magician" article i read. That was all what the article was saying but it was your basic, what i refer to as "skip bayless" approach, just trying to rile up people with nonsense to get hits.

When thinking about it now, in my opinion though im sorry hes not in the top 5. But see i value the 2 way game way more then your average person and how much it means to also be the one who every night takes the defensive assignment of trying to shut down the other teams best player. Leaps and bounds this year sure, but from the atrocious defensive effort of prior years still not good enough to be a great defender. If it makes you feel any better im not sure i even have the reigning mvp Steph Curry in there, but he might be closer.

On to the game tonight, man wish i would have seen it. Graduation season is here and unfortunately i was sitting through some uninspiring speeches lol But looked like the rockets started off hot coming off the momentum of last series, then GSW got hot to make the comeback. Maybe theyll pass a midnite replay here and ill watch what i can.
 
That was a good read. And i agree part of the reason i personally somewhat loathe him is because i know he has the talent to just utterly dominate the right way. I was a HUGE fan of his in OKC. You know back where he didnt have the whole shot clock to burn a possesion, the minutes a game to even attempt to draw 20 free throws. It was plug me in, ok instant offense look what i can do.

Reminds me of a article i read a few weeks back where they were calling him the magician. Basically he gives the illusion of being a superstar, either by the box score lovers, or by the occasional sweet crossover or quick pull up. But not really an elite player among the ranks of the top 10 players in the league. Obviously his horrible defense doesnt help. I dont agree with all that but really dug the magician anology. Creates the illusion of a foul, creates the illusion of a walking triple double machine with empty stats, when he can just flat out go out and score over you if he just tried.

Agree. He's like the new D-Wade: has all the tools to be a truly great player on both ends of the floor, but looks to flop at every opportunity, and takes lots of possessions off on defense...because it's easier than doing it as it was intended. The whole flopping thing turns me off any player, and Harden's are particularly ridiculous. The one against Griffin in that article is how I think of his game. You can call it "gamesmanship" or whatever, but it's lame and anyone who's honest would likely conclude that it's really more like "gaming the system". All IMO, of course. And none of this implies that tons of other players don't do the same at times, even those on teams I like.
 
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Agree. He's like the new D-Wade: has all the tools to be a truly great player on both ends of the floor, but looks to flop at every opportunity, and takes lots of possessions off on defense...because it's easier than doing it as it was intended. The whole flopping thing turns me off any player, and Harden's are particularly ridiculous. The one against Griffin in that article is how I think of his game. You can call it "gamesmanship" or whatever, but it's lame and anyone who's honest would likely conclude that it's really more like "gaming the system". All IMO, of course. And none of this implies that tons of other players don't do the same at times, even those on teams I like.

Yeah I blame the influx of euro players in the 2000's. Now before I get hate replies no I didnt say European players. But the Euro league was the biggest league other then the NBA and most international players played there. Alot of international players that come from huge soccer playing countries. So yeah you have your Spanish, French, Italian players etc etc but also your Argentinians, Brazilians and other Latin american countries sending their best players over there. Now dont get me wrong I'm a soccer fan as well and know that baiting the refs for fouls or "taking dives" are all part of the game and have been for years. So they brought those "strategies" over the to NBA. Sadly you have to just go with it now and consider it part of the game whether you like it or not, just like the Hack-A-Whoever strategy. Slowly they are integrating changes to resolve both issues i think.