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NCAA Week 14

I'm gonna' root for my ugly Huskers to do the impossible this weekend. Go Big Red! Here comes the Pelini Brothers and their ' Amazing Flying Defense Circus ' to the fine folks in Texas. Now if the Huskers could've found an identity on the offensive side of the ball earlier this year, would I feel a little more optimistic for the Huskers chances.
 
Leave that dude alone. This is the only time of the year he comes around the NCAA threads. He'll be gone on Sunday.

-Mike

I have been around all year, but I haven't posted that much in here. I believe that I was around last year to congratulate Florida fans after the SECCG and to discuss it, and after the Utah game too. Check your record there "dude." And if Florida wins next week I'll extend congratulations and wish Florida well in the NC game. I always pull for SEC teams!
 
i would also link to this week's "edsbs the magazine" cover, but... you'll have to check it out yourself. the "cover story" (it's not really a magazine...) is "SIX 7-5 SEC TEAMS TO SPLIT ACC TITLE."

:D:D:D:bawl::D:D:D

(laughing so hard tears stream down face.)


alright, i'll try and do some stats searches on the common opponents florida and alabama played. like eublet said, this doesn't in any way determine who wins on saturday, but it's the best we've got.

Tennessee:

@Florida: 13-23
@Alabama: 10-12

Kentucky:

Florida: 7-41
Alabama: 20-38

LSU:

Florida: 3-13
@Alabama: 15-24

Arkansas:

@Florida: 20-23
@Alabama: 7-35

Miss State:

Florida: 19-29
Alabama: 3-31

South Carolina:

Florida: 14-24
@Alabama: 6-20


someone else will have to track down the yards of offense gained and given up, since i can't find it. also, i didn't put in the chronology, but that's easy enough to see. removing the chronological aspect, it looks like out of the six common opponents, florida performed better against three and alabama performed better against the other three. considering that two of those are the horrible games florida played against arkansas and mississippi state, i'm not too worried, since florida seems to have gotten it together since then.
I can find this info somewhere if I get some time. It wasn't a HUGE difference, but it was what I ment by "indicator", which was a poor choice of wording on my part. From memory, from those common opponents (FIU not included at the time), Bama had on average scored more points, and allowed less. But I think the average difference was less than 3 points. So it is VERY close. It would be easy to average up the scores you posted, but the other source I had also included total offense, defense, turnover margin, sacks, sacks given up, etc. All those numbers where more solidly in Bama's favor than the scoring margin.

Again, poor wording choice on my part. Many of these posts I do are inbetween my day job duties, and I just throw something out there without really explaining it, and it probably comes off as drive-by commentary. I'm very nervous about this game. In fact, I felt better about the SECCG this time last year simply because we were more consistent and Julio was unstoppable. This year...not so much.

I do think Tebow is stoppable, and his will to win is no greater than anyone else's (minority opinion I know). After all, if Snead and McCluster can trump Tebow's will, I'm certain Ingram, Julio and McClain are capable. I think the most important thing here will be the gameplan each team brings. Of course execution is important as well, but a good gameplan is a whole lot easier to execute than a poor one. I think either team could show up with the perfect gameplan and win by 2-3 touchdowns. I also think we could both showup with evenly matched gameplans and this turn into a trench war.
 
This is curious. If you look at the Bama and UF games this past weekend, one team could possibly have been accused of being overconfident and looking ahead. And it wasn't Florida.;)
Agreed. I think Bama could be accused of being over confident in the Iron Bowl, but personally I think that had little to do with the way things went down. Auburn showed up with a good gameplan to get out in front quickly with some big gambles. The biggest was that onside kick, but all those motion plays were very gimmicky, and having a full two weeks to practice them definitely helped their chances of it working. Those first two touchdowns was all Auburn, and they should get credit. We could have done better with the defense, but honestly nothing like that had been tried by them all year. We adjusted, and that stuff quit working completely.

I hate that they hit that 3rd quarter touchdown bomb as it really made the game and the score closer than it should have been, along with the total offense numbers. That was totally Bama's fault, as the play was nothing special. Their corner just burned a strong safety, which is what should be expected to happen.

As for Auburn's total offense versus Bama's (which is the chest beating, moral victory crap I'm hearing from Auburn here), that is very lopsided as well. Bama for the most part had excellent field position in the last 3 quarters, and all our scoring drives really had very low yardage associated with them. They shanked the ball out of bounds to keep it away from Javi, so we started at midfield with no return yardage on a few plays. He also had two big returns. We could have driven the ball further on some of those drives if we had to I believe.

Again, a 19 point scoring deficit over the final 3 quarters is nothing for Auburn to brag about. The early gameplan however is something they can take pride in. Good coaching evidenced there, and that's what Auburn needs to focus on more than anything after the abysmal job of Tubbs the last few years.
 
It's worth noting that given that the Big 12 CG will be played in Dallas - it will be a very pro UT crowd.

Just wait to see how well NU fans travel. My guess is that it will be about 50/50.

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Yes, that's touchdown Jesus in the back.
 
alright, i'll try and do some stats searches on the common opponents florida and alabama played. like eublet said, this doesn't in any way determine who wins on saturday, but it's the best we've got.

Tennessee:

@Florida: 13-23
@Alabama: 10-12

Kentucky:

Florida: 7-41
Alabama: 20-38

LSU:

Florida: 3-13
@Alabama: 15-24

Arkansas:

@Florida: 20-23
@Alabama: 7-35

Miss State:

Florida: 19-29
Alabama: 3-31

South Carolina:

Florida: 14-24
@Alabama: 6-20


someone else will have to track down the yards of offense gained and given up, since i can't find it. also, i didn't put in the chronology, but that's easy enough to see. removing the chronological aspect, it looks like out of the six common opponents, florida performed better against three and alabama performed better against the other three. considering that two of those are the horrible games florida played against arkansas and mississippi state, i'm not too worried, since florida seems to have gotten it together since then.

Hey Brad, you forgot to mention the most important common opponent of 2009: the mighty Golden Panthers of Florida International!

Florida: 3-62

Alabama: 14-40

Gators by a touchdown.
 
Yes, but that was before "the promise".

Besides, none of those guys could do it last year. Especially your big bad unstoppable WR Jones, or the equally unstoppable manwhich DL Cody.

-Mike

Okay, I mean everything I'm about to say as humbly and respectfully to Florida/Tebow as possible.

The promise... That's good drama, but it has very little to do with Florida winning their games. Sure Tebow is trying as hard as he can, but this promise is not something that's in his power to keep. He's not some omnipotent football god that can will his team to win whenever necessary, yet so many Gator fans seem to actually believe that to be true.

Plain fact of the matter is that Florida was better than everyone else last year at other positions besides QB, and they won out the rest of their games. Florida isn't as good this year, and a much softer East division schedule has made it easier for him to "make good" on his promise. Don't get me wrong, as I'm not meaning to take anything away from what Florida has accomplished. Undefeated in the SEC is still amazing. But when it comes crunch time in a game, the fact that Tebow made an emotional promise 14 months ago will do nothing to bail them out. They'll either have the talent and game plan to win, or they'll lose.

This kind of "Promise" stuff is what makes people sick of hearing about Tebow. His word isn't any better than anyone elses if the rest of his team doesn't have the talent and desire to help him back it up.
 
He's not some omnipotent football god that can will his team to win whenever necessary....

:rollno:

Unbeliever....he'll beat you guys again this year and you still won't believe it. Seriously....I know what you mean. This whole "promise" storyline sure makes the season much more sensational though. I'm getting mileage out of it too. :D :D

Sticking to facts, the guys you feel can be the difference for Bama this go around weren't able to last year, so I see no difference this time. Well, we lost Harvin who was playing on a bum ankle. Oh yeah, Murphy is gone too. Mullen too.

-Mike
 
:rollno:

Unbeliever....he'll beat you guys again this year and you still won't believe it. Seriously....I know what you mean. This whole "promise" storyline sure makes the season much more sensational though. I'm getting mileage out of it too. :D :D

Sticking to facts, the guys you feel can be the difference for Bama this go around weren't able to last year, so I see no difference this time. Well, we lost Harvin who was playing on a bum ankle. Oh yeah, Murphy is gone too. Mullen too.

-Mike
Good stuff, Mike.:D One important note: Percy didn't play at all against Bama last year. Murphy had a pretty good game, though.
 
I do think Tebow is stoppable, and his will to win is no greater than anyone else's (minority opinion I know). After all, if Snead and McCluster can trump Tebow's will, I'm certain Ingram, Julio and McClain are capable.
I wouldn't give Snead or McCluster a whole lot of credit--their performances were fairly unremarkable other than Snead connecting on one bomb. Here's the box score:
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/boxscore?gameId=282710057
It was UF's three fumbles (two deep in the Gators' own territory) and the blocked extra point that primarily caused that loss.
 
Julio definitely did his part last year to win the game. Coffee did as well, so hopefully Ingram will be healthy and do better than Coffee did. McElroy is definitely better than Wilson. Bama's defense is better than last years. Still, the inconsistency strikes me.

I see that Carlos Dunlap was arrested for DUI last night. Of course he should be suspended, but we'll see what Meyer does. This really sucks for him, Florida and Bama. I hate playing games without star players. Just like I said last year, you guys are still going on about how Harvin wasn't in the game.