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Never Ordering a Schroeder Cab Again

#81
trickyric said:
or he is pissed and is out considerable money?
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For cabs he paid for and got? Did I miss something?

It seems to me the speakons will not work because the user is using the wrong type 2 connector. Wouldn't that be a reasonable explanation? It also seems the said box would have to be a series converter and we are not hearing from the other side here at all. How do we know there isn't more to this than has been posted? Not any other content from this user might suggest that? Or might suggest he is not a known poster or member of the community with no other reference for who he is?
 
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#84
Red Planet said:
It doesn't work because he is using an incorrect connector. I read the post. Can you reread my post?
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that is a fair point. However I still go back to the consumer trusting the seller and following his direction.
If what he was told is not happening, it's not happening.
Now it also took a long time to get the "box". If the box is really a series converter than the entire deal was kind of a sham from the jump.
Either way it would seem he was played in the original deal.
 
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#85
trickyric said:
that is a fair point. However I still go back to the consumer trusting the seller and following his direction.
If what he was told is not happening, it's not happening.
Now it also took a long time to get the "box". If the box is really a series converter than the entire deal was kind of a sham from the jump.
Either way it would seem he was played in the original deal.
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If we are to believe the OP is giving us the skinny then yes but what if he isn't?

Its sounding more (to me) like he purchased the wrong cabs and Jorg tried to make him a solution and sent it for free. He got it and is using the wrong connectors and now Jorg is the scourge of the universe. I have had zero dealings with Jorg and never used these cabs so I consider myself neutral.

Generally though not in 100 percent of cases known to mankind, when a speakon plug will not go inside a speakon jack one is using an incorrect speakon plug not compatable with the version of jack. Its simple not rocket science. The other .01 percent of the time a speakon will not fit a speakon there may be some trapped smegma inside the connector. :D

Generally a NL4 will not go into an NL2 IIRC in which I believe this is the case in this situation. Judging from what the OP has posted so far I believe he wouldn't know the difference.
 
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Fredrik E. Nilsen said:
Or, there has been some kind of misunderstanding, or OP has left out some vital information. I wouldn’t rule that out.
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Something I have noticed about us humans when we are frustrated and angry we tend to omit some details that don't support our point of view. Not all the time but many times. If we were perfect creatures there would be no need for questioning any of us and all of us would be totally happy or totally insane.
 
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bucephylus said:
Regarding the soft side of this OP, I would have to hear both sides of it. Jorg is a stand up guy, intelligent, and knows his stuff. He has participated here on TB in the past. This is the first post of this kind I’ve ever seen. I suspect the OP either missed or did not understand something Jorg told him.
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I think you are right. We have asked for a photo of the box, so far no photo. Op has stated , after he got the free box and claimed it didn't work, that Jorg sent him a photo of what cable was needed. Have not seen that photo either. Also, title of thread is a little misleading. "Never buy a cab again" sort of implies that there is something wrong with the cabs. As far as I know, the cabs work fine as stand alone units. In fact, the Op had the 15 cab for some time and used it, then ordered another, different cab. I might have missed something, but I don't see where Jorg tried to talk him in to buying two, 4 ohm cabs at the same time. The box thing I have no idea what the tech aspects of it is, but why would Jorg purposely send a defective item in the first place? I understand that the OP is frustrated because he can't run the two cabs together now with his amp, but it just doesn't seem like the Jorg I know who would willfully try to screw up something on purpose with a customer. Of course, I may be totally wrong, but, until we get more info from the OP as requested, I'm sort of scratching my head over this one.
 
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#90
As @Red Planet pointed out, OP's behavior seems a bit odd. Neither of us I don't believe are saying there's something wrong with OP. It seems he doesn't live and die on TB. OP might be the nicest guy in the world... and I'm not trying to put word in anyone's mouth.

As of a moment ago, he hasn't been on since yesterday afternoon (Eastern time). No profile information. Joined a few years back and never posted until recently. He obviously didn't join TB to bash Jorg. Then he runs intothis problem (about 9 months ago?).

Coming out of lurkdom, he posts the same thing as his first post here, twice on the back of a couple other threads, then creates this one. Opening says he rarely posts these things, but did so 3 times in a row, within minutes, as his very first posts here ever. The inconsistency doesn't tell me he's bashing or making things up, but maybe having trouble doin' TB or does not understand the culture, especially in the amps and cabs forum.

Not getting all the information out is very common, here and everywhere. How often have we seen a thread that says something like, "What's the best cab for my 500 Watt amp?"

Jorg has too good of a rep here... there must be another side to the coin.
 
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BadExample said:
As @Red Planet pointed out, OP's behavior seems a bit odd. Neither of us I don't believe are saying there's something wrong with OP. It seems he doesn't live and die on TB. OP might be the nicest guy in the world... and I'm not trying to put word in anyone's mouth.

As of a moment ago, he hasn't been on since yesterday afternoon (Eastern time). No profile information. Joined a few years back and never posted until recently. He obviously didn't join TB to bash Jorg. Then he runs intothis problem (about 9 months ago?).

Coming out of lurkdom, he posts the same thing as his first post here, twice on the back of a couple other threads, then creates this one. Opening says he rarely posts these things, but did so 3 times in a row, within minutes, as his very first posts here ever. The inconsistency doesn't tell me he's bashing or making things up, but maybe having trouble doin' TB or does not understand the culture, especially in the amps and cabs forum.

Not getting all the information out is very common, here and everywhere. How often have we seen a thread that says something like, "What's the best cab for my 500 Watt amp?"

Jorg has too good of a rep here... there must be another side to the coin.
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Also a valid observation.
 
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The OP did not say Never Buy anything. He said "Never Ordering a Schroeder Cab again" . And he was just posting in several threads to get the word of his experience out to more people. He probably has a real life that does not include monitoring TB 24/7. Just because you think someone is a standup guy does not mean he is and if you have never done business with him you know even less about him aside what his fanboys have written. I am not saying anyone is right or wrong here just one Question where is the person with the other side of this story? Wha is no response from him not considered as strange as the OP not being on Since yesterday?
 
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Fredrik E. Nilsen said:
It's only music. It isn't supposed to make sense.
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As it happens, the thing I was trying (running my amp into a power soak resistor as well as a speaker) did sort of make sense. An amp I had at the time was too powerful for a cab I was messing with, and I wanted to make sure I didn't blow it. Speaker + power soak resistor power rating theoretically exceeded the amp's max output at the combined resistance. I cranked it a bit as an experiment to see if the resistor heat sink would heat up. It didn't, then I got bored and did something else. I still have the 100W 8ohm resistor as a momento.
 
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Nighttrain1127 said:
He probably has a real life that does not include monitoring TB 24/7
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Whaaaaaaa? :roflmao::laugh::roflmao:

Pretty much what I was getting at... he's likely not your average "Amps and Caps" participant. He may have been very actively reading in other TB sections, we don't know.

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Wha is no response from him not considered as strange as the OP not being on Since yesterday?
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Not coming back was an observation. After reading the last few posts by @Red Planet I just went and looked at his profile...

I forgot the link to all of his activity:

https://www.talkbass.com/search/16169772/

I'm not saying either party is good, great or horrid. I do think it would be odd if Jorg was such a cruel beast, we'd see more complaints. That leads me to believe there's some communication issues going on.
 
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Nighttrain1127 said:
The OP did not say Never Buy anything. He said "Never Ordering a Schroeder Cab again" . And he was just posting in several threads to get the word of his experience out to more people. He probably has a real life that does not include monitoring TB 24/7. Just because you think someone is a standup guy does not mean he is and if you have never done business with him you know even less about him aside what his fanboys have written. I am not saying anyone is right or wrong here just one Question where is the person with the other side of this story? Wha is no response from him not considered as strange as the OP not being on Since yesterday?
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Well, "ordering " a cab and receiving it seems to imply buying, wouldn't you say ? And, might Jorg have a real life too, that does not include " monitoring TB 24/7 " ? You can't have it both ways, especially if Jorg is not even a member here, and the Op is. I have done business with Jorg many times. I don't consider myself a " fanboy ", but I have corresponded with him on numerous occasions, and, as far as my dealings with him, he has been a " stand up guy ". It seems, if anything in this thread, posters are making character judgments on someone, Jorg, based on what appears to me to be a rant, so far, as we have nothing else to go on except that rant, even after several requests for more info, like photos. Look, I hope it all is one big misunderstanding and everything gets resolved. I would just like to see some more info about this " box ", namely photos, and the photo Jorg himself sent to the Op. If it turns out that Jorg is some sort of Jekyl and Hyde, so be it. However, I'm not ready to lynch him from the tallest tree until I get more info.
 
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