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Double Bass New 2x8 Aguilar cab
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Tombowlus,
Since I like EA Stuff I saved that pic of the CM 208 that you posted.
Here's Johnny only now he's lighter by about 10 lbs.
Ric
Since I like EA Stuff I saved that pic of the CM 208 that you posted.
Here's Johnny only now he's lighter by about 10 lbs.
Ric
Cuz we've all been waiting awhile now.
A few thoughts that I hope the good people at EA read:
It should have a handle on top of the cab so that it's easier to pick up with one hand and schlep. Even a strap handle would do the trick. The Mline whizzy is a cool cab but the handle placement doesn't make sense for something that most people will carry with one hand.
Making a 4ohm version would be great for many users to get max headroom out of the amps we use. This looks a lot like the NL-210 which is only available as an 8ohm cab if I recall correctly.
If it can handle 400 or more watts most people's amps will work better if it's a 4ohm load.
My 2 cents!
A few thoughts that I hope the good people at EA read:
It should have a handle on top of the cab so that it's easier to pick up with one hand and schlep. Even a strap handle would do the trick. The Mline whizzy is a cool cab but the handle placement doesn't make sense for something that most people will carry with one hand.
Making a 4ohm version would be great for many users to get max headroom out of the amps we use. This looks a lot like the NL-210 which is only available as an 8ohm cab if I recall correctly.
If it can handle 400 or more watts most people's amps will work better if it's a 4ohm load.
My 2 cents!
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almost looks like they took the m-line wizzy cab and modified it to hold two 8's and a tweeter. I'm interested to hear how this turns out.
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That's what I was thinking.
After all this time it has to be more than that right?
purely speculating....
but IF they did indeed take the same cabinet used in the m-line wizzy, I'm sure that they at least did some redesigning of the transmission port to get the best sound and efficiency out of those two 8's.
but IF they did indeed take the same cabinet used in the m-line wizzy, I'm sure that they at least did some redesigning of the transmission port to get the best sound and efficiency out of those two 8's.
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It is a completely new design, and not just two 8's in an M-line Wizzy box. It does share some similar dimensions, and it does employ an M-shaped transmission line, but believe me, it's a ground up design based specifically upon making those drivers work well in a small, lightweight box.
Tom.
Phil,
My 2 cents is that all the heat that Neo's generate becomes
more of a problem in a Transmission Line Cabinet and that's why it's takin so long. It's also a whole different beast to use two eights and a compression horn to try and emulate a cabinet that had two eights
two 5 1/2's and one 3 1/4. That's nothing short of magic if they pull it off.
Ric
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All dynamic cone speakers are rather inefficient. Some of the electrical energy from the amplifier is transformed into sound, but much more is lost as heat. So any type of speaker we use, no matter what type of magnet it employs, has to deal with a lot heat. The speaker's voice coil gets hot and some of this heat is transferred to the surrounding air and some is absorbed by the speaker's magnetic structure. Some types of magnets are more tolerant of higher temperatures than others. That has been one of the drawbacks with neodymium magnets in the past, however speaker manufactures like Eminence seem to be doing a better job of solving this problem more recently.
The type of enclosure, transmission line or otherwise, really doesn't have much to do with the high temperature stability of neodymium magnets. I think that EA is just taking the time to get the drivers right here, which they would have to do no matter what type of magnet is used. It's not at all not easy to design a new driver and get it to do what you want it to.
The type of enclosure, transmission line or otherwise, really doesn't have much to do with the high temperature stability of neodymium magnets. I think that EA is just taking the time to get the drivers right here, which they would have to do no matter what type of magnet is used. It's not at all not easy to design a new driver and get it to do what you want it to.
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Yes, Toad-meister. I would use the tilt-riser as a handle, too if I had to, but it's not in an optimal spot for balance nor is it covered in something that is easy on the hands.
I was just putting together a wish list from my dreamy-dream world.
You know. My 2 cents.
I was just putting together a wish list from my dreamy-dream world.
You know. My 2 cents.
See that little thing on the bottom that people use to prop it up?
That's a handle.
I liked the handles on the old style Wizzy that had the epoxy finish. Some people found them uncomfortable, but I found them to be very practical. I despise the side handles on the Wizzy M however. To me, they are very uncomfortable and awkward. Just a poor design all around that mars an otherwise wonderful cab. Unfortunately it looks like the new 208 will use those awful things. At least the side strap handle on the Wizzy 10 is OK.
ps I don't find the tilt back handle to be much use as a carrying handle.
ps I don't find the tilt back handle to be much use as a carrying handle.
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Huh. I carry my VL208s by that thing all the time. Put the short side on my leg and it balances pretty well. I hate all the rest of their handle placements otherwise. Mline is the worst offender.
If I just dropped into this thread at this post, I'd really be wondering what you were referring to
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Hey guys, those specs for the Aguilar 2x8 I posted were found on a translated Euro page. After seeing the pics of the cab at the NAMM show, I'm not so sure that they are accurate.......lets wait and see what Aguilar posts., to be sure.
EA, I bet that they are great cabs, but their marketing technique of being harder to get on the street doesn't work for me.
EA, I bet that they are great cabs, but their marketing technique of being harder to get on the street doesn't work for me.
In maters electronic I'll defer to Bob's knowledge as a engineer.
Based on what Bob tells here then it's quite possible that EA is wrestling with the problem of trying to get a two way cabinet to to emulate the sound of the VL 208 that had 5 speakers and a 3 way design. That's got to be a pretty tricky indeed.
Ric
