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New ampeg speculation - A true B15 Reissue?

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Hey everyone,

We truly appreciate all the interaction surrounding the Heritage B-15. We really trust and rely on the opinions of the TalkBass community. After all, you are arguably the most passionate (and certainly most vocal) Ampeg people out there. We love Ampeg, we love music and we want Ampeg to be everything it should be – and we are working hard to make this happen.

While we plan to save some details for the official launch at NAMM, we wanted to say a few things. I have numbered these to ease the dissection that will likely follow:

1. You know by now it is a limited run of 50 units for the 2010 production year. This number is no accident and is more than a marketing ploy. The Heritage B-15 is a legit, hand-built amp. For years people like you have wanted the real deal. This is it. The limited run reflects the intensely high-quality design. We wanted to keep the quality as high as possible and this limited run reflects our dedication to making this what it should be, the Holy Grail of bass amplification. All 50 units will be available for sale starting January 13, 2011. There will be no pre-sale. First come, first serve for our US dealers. Will we build more? We have sold out of our limited 250 unit run of the Heritage SVT-CL and have started taking orders for 2011 production. If the Heritage B-15 sells well, there is a great possibility that we will continue production.

2. The Heritage B-15 is not a “re-issue” like the B-15R. It is truly inspired by the 1964 B-15NC and 1966 B-15NF. These are two distinct circuit paths, each with their own Baxandall tone stack. As you have seen, there is also a bias switch (1964 cathode and 1966 fixed bias)

3. When using the 1966 bias, the output is 30W RMS. With the 1964 bias, you get 25W RMS.

4. The creation of this amazing amp involved a lot of amazing people. From the start we worked with inventor Jess Oliver on the design. He is exceedingly happy and agreed to write a letter of approval that comes with each Heritage B-15. He is a tough customer to please and I hope you know that anything that gets his seal of approval is the real deal.

5. Highly recommended by Jess, we consulted with Mark Gandenberger of Vintage Blue on the awesome double-baffle cabinet.

6. The Heritage B-15 is being built by renowned amp builder George Metropolous and his team out in Burton, Michigan.

7. The speaker was custom-designed by Eminence. We spent tons of time auditioning all the great speakers from the various B-15 incarnations and came up with a robust design with a massive 109oz ceramic magnet and a 4-inch voice coil. We also used an aluminum dust cover.

Like I have said, we will have more info as time goes on and will chime in here when it makes sense. It’s a tough world to build an amp like this, but we really wanted to show you that we could. This is a labor of love.

Our upcoming announcement (probably not for a while, so take a breather!) about the other two amps you saw in the pics is likely to please many of you.

Until then, we have tons of production pics to share. You can really see the quality from these shots. We will likely post these to Facebook over the coming weeks, but I am sure one of you is likely to share here.
 
Hey everyone,

We truly appreciate all the interaction surrounding the Heritage B-15. We really trust and rely on the opinions of the TalkBass community. After all, you are arguably the most passionate (and certainly most vocal) Ampeg people out there. We love Ampeg, we love music and we want Ampeg to be everything it should be – and we are working hard to make this happen.

While we plan to save some details for the official launch at NAMM, we wanted to say a few things. I have numbered these to ease the dissection that will likely follow:

1. You know by now it is a limited run of 50 units for the 2010 production year. This number is no accident and is more than a marketing ploy. The Heritage B-15 is a legit, hand-built amp. For years people like you have wanted the real deal. This is it. The limited run reflects the intensely high-quality design. We wanted to keep the quality as high as possible and this limited run reflects our dedication to making this what it should be, the Holy Grail of bass amplification. All 50 units will be available for sale starting January 13, 2011. There will be no pre-sale. First come, first serve for our US dealers. Will we build more? We have sold out of our limited 250 unit run of the Heritage SVT-CL and have started taking orders for 2011 production. If the Heritage B-15 sells well, there is a great possibility that we will continue production.

2. The Heritage B-15 is not a “re-issue” like the B-15R. It is truly inspired by the 1964 B-15NC and 1966 B-15NF. These are two distinct circuit paths, each with their own Baxandall tone stack. As you have seen, there is also a bias switch (1964 cathode and 1966 fixed bias)

3. When using the 1966 bias, the output is 30W RMS. With the 1964 bias, you get 25W RMS.

4. The creation of this amazing amp involved a lot of amazing people. From the start we worked with inventor Jess Oliver on the design. He is exceedingly happy and agreed to write a letter of approval that comes with each Heritage B-15. He is a tough customer to please and I hope you know that anything that gets his seal of approval is the real deal.

5. Highly recommended by Jess, we consulted with Mark Gandenberger of Vintage Blue on the awesome double-baffle cabinet.

6. The Heritage B-15 is being built by renowned amp builder George Metropolous and his team out in Burton, Michigan.

7. The speaker was custom-designed by Eminence. We spent tons of time auditioning all the great speakers from the various B-15 incarnations and came up with a robust design with a massive 109oz ceramic magnet and a 4-inch voice coil. We also used an aluminum dust cover.

Like I have said, we will have more info as time goes on and will chime in here when it makes sense. It’s a tough world to build an amp like this, but we really wanted to show you that we could. This is a labor of love.

Our upcoming announcement (probably not for a while, so take a breather!) about the other two amps you saw in the pics is likely to please many of you.

Until then, we have tons of production pics to share. You can really see the quality from these shots. We will likely post these to Facebook over the coming weeks, but I am sure one of you is likely to share here.

Thank you for this info. It clarifies a lot for me, I may be able to get one eventually, or something comparable from Ampeg!
 
Another note of thanks, for making the decision to release at least 50 new units.A labor of Love, indeed.
Also for assembling together, everyone that is involved to bring this to market, another stunning achievement!

The dual circuit design sounds awesome!

Hands down, this is destined to be another "Benchmark" amp.

Currently I have a V4B AV, with matching 610HLF.Also a B15R, with a matching extension cab, and a SVP-CL pre, to lay down the round sound. :)
And these won't be leaving my gear roster anytime soon, if ever.

The new Heritage B15, incarnation is something that I'm really looking forward to.

Way to go Ampeg!
 
1. You know by now it is a limited run of 50 units for the 2010 production year. This number is no accident and is more than a marketing ploy. The Heritage B-15 is a legit, hand-built amp. For years people like you have wanted the real deal. This is it. The limited run reflects the intensely high-quality design. We wanted to keep the quality as high as possible and this limited run reflects our dedication to making this what it should be, the Holy Grail of bass amplification. All 50 units will be available for sale starting January 13, 2011. There will be no pre-sale. First come, first serve for our US dealers. Will we build more? We have sold out of our limited 250 unit run of the Heritage SVT-CL and have started taking orders for 2011 production. If the Heritage B-15 sells well, there is a great possibility that we will continue production.
honestly, i'd have been happy with a pcb version made in china ;) but i do think this is the way to do it...as you said, it's the holy grail of bass amps and there will now be 50 more out in circulation, and i don't see that as a bad thing.

5. Highly recommended by Jess, we consulted with Mark Gandenberger of Vintage Blue on the awesome double-baffle cabinet.
i knew it! mark is a great guy and outstanding craftsman, and if these cabs meet the high standards he has set out to achieve, then they should be good enough for anyone.

7. The speaker was custom-designed by Eminence. We spent tons of time auditioning all the great speakers from the various B-15 incarnations and came up with a robust design with a massive 109oz ceramic magnet and a 4-inch voice coil. We also used an aluminum dust cover.
wow, does it clear the head? ;) i know that delta 15a in my vb cab comes pretty close to not clearing.

Until then, we have tons of production pics to share. You can really see the quality from these shots. We will likely post these to Facebook over the coming weeks, but I am sure one of you is likely to share here.
thanks for taking the time to reply more in depth. it's a marriage killer, but it's a damn nice marriage killer, and if funds were unlimited, i'd order one for sure. i'm sure these will sell in short order. i've been a pretty outspoken critic of the former head idiot, but from what i've seen, you guys are really trying hard to make up for it, so that's all we can ask for at this point.
 
Dear AmpegUSA (sorry I can't name you other than your nickname),

Thanks for these explanations. I guess nobody ever doubted the Heritage B15 is top notch. Nobody. Really.

OK, let's wait until the NAMM show. My personal wish is that you will introduce a "regular" all-tube B15 (I mean, non-Heritage), available to many users without the limited run. Which means do with the B15 what you already do with the SVT-CL and others.

Thanks again,
Jay.
 
2. The Heritage B-15 is not a “re-issue” like the B-15R. It is truly inspired by the 1964 B-15NC and 1966 B-15NF. These are two distinct circuit paths, each with their own Baxandall tone stack. As you have seen, there is also a bias switch (1964 cathode and 1966 fixed bias)

If it's "truly inspired", why would it have a different tone stack?

Original B-15 is a James, not Baxandall, tone stack.
 
It's obvious to me that Ampeg put a lot of thought into this Heritage B-15 and they are trying to reclaim their previous position as the bass amp manufacturer of choice. I have a mint '67 B-15-N and an '02 B-15R/15E and I'm very pleased with both. If the Heritage B-15 sells well there may well be more made to satisfy the demand. If not, there won't. I'm very interested in one and would want and extension cabinet for it. If Ampeg doesn't have them, I know where to go to get one. I'm also still looking for a B-18 and someday I'll find one. Maybe there may even be a Heritage B-18 someday. Retro eveerything seems to be popular again. Look at how well the new Camaro is doing. I personally think a new line of Ampeg Blue Diamond amps with modern power and features as well as vintage power and tone would do well. There is nothing cooler looking, IMHO, that the glowing tubes and logo of an Amger Fliptop. It's industrial, powerful looking, and mesmerizing.

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If it's "truly inspired", why would it have a different tone stack?

Original B-15 is a James, not Baxandall, tone stack.

In the NC the tone circuit is located between the first two pre-amp stages, in the NF the tone circuit is located after the second pre-amp stage. In the case of the NC, the gain lost by inserting the tone stage is made up by the second stage. In the case of the NF, there are two series stages driving a hotter signal into the tone stack. This provides bit more grit at higher volume settings. It amounts to the same thing under normal playing conditions. I assume that these are the two signal paths that AmpegUSA was referring to. It is nice to have the option of one or the other. As is the selectable cathode/fixed bias. It makes the amp a bit more versatile.

Yes, it is a James tone stack. Seems like Baxandall had better PR people than James :smug: .
 
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