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New Bergantino Cabinets!

#41
nostatic said:
Evidently Jim saw the photos of my AE210 :p
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Putting feet on the side so that you could configure it either horizontally or vertically was one of the first things I suggested to Jim after I got my AE210. I think a lot of people were asking about that, which is why he offered the "vertical" AE210. The HD210 is obviously intended to be used in either configuration, and that just makes sense. :cool:
 
#55
lo-freq said:
How'd that go and what tools did you use (bass guitar(s) & amp(s))?
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Man, that cab was a real champ on the gig! It did everything that I thought it would do. It was full, it was clear, it sounded great... What surprised me a little bit was that it seemed to be able to really fill the room and the mix without having to be pushed very hard. That thing was slamming, though I felt like I was barely pushing it (as far as the gain/volume settings on the amp are concerned). Now, granted, I was pushing it with a Mesa/Boogie Fathom (M6), which is a very stout amp, but prior to the show, I tried it with a variety of heads and it was clear with all of them that the HD212 gets very loud and authoritative without having to be pushed too hard (though it could take a lot of juice without complaining, too).

In honor of my 19-year old dog, Gibson, whom I had to have put down last Thursday (that was a rough day...), I played my Gibson Explorer most of the night. 5-string duty was handled by my ash/maple/wenge/wenge 535.

I did not find it a pain to move, but then again, I'm not very sensitive to weight issues, either. All I know is that from a tone/volume/performance perspective, the HD212 is definitely one of the most impressive (passive) cabs I have heard, considering its size. Highly impressed! :bassist: :bassist: :bassist: :cool:
 
#56
tombowlus said:
Man, that cab was a real champ on the gig! It did everything that I thought it would do. It was full, it was clear, it sounded great... What surprised me a little bit was that it seemed to be able to really fill the room and the mix without having to be pushed very hard. That thing was slamming, though I felt like I was barely pushing it (as far as the gain/volume settings on the amp are concerned). Now, granted, I was pushing it with a Mesa/Boogie Fathom (M6), which is a very stout amp, but prior to the show, I tried it with a variety of heads and it was clear with all of them that the HD212 gets very loud and authoritative without having to be pushed too hard (though it could take a lot of juice without complaining, too).

In honor of my 19-year old dog, Gibson, whom I had to have put down last Thursday (that was a rough day...), I played my Gibson Explorer most of the night. 5-string duty was handled by my ash/maple/wenge/wenge 535.

I did not find it a pain to move, but then again, I'm not very sensitive to weight issues, either. All I know is that from a tone/volume/performance perspective, the HD212 is definitely one of the most impressive (passive) cabs I have heard, considering its size. Highly impressed! :bassist: :bassist: :bassist: :cool:
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Hi Tom, great review, will you get a chance to A/B this with an AE212?

Cheers

Steve
 
#57
Snoopygore71 said:
Hi Tom, great review, will you get a chance to A/B this with an AE212?

Cheers

Steve
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Yes, I have done this comparison several times, now. The HD seems a bit louder, overall, and has a stronger low-mid presence. It sounds more full, overall, and seems more eager to give you back some grit/snarl. The AE seems a bit more "Hi-Fi" and sounds more quick/clean/pristine. It seems to have more upper midrange going on, but that could be due in part to the AE having less lower mids than the HD. The high end is fairly similar.
 
#58
tombowlus said:
Yes, I have done this comparison several times, now. The HD seems a bit louder, overall, and has a stronger low-mid presence. It sounds more full, overall, and seems more eager to give you back some grit/snarl. The AE seems a bit more "Hi-Fi" and sounds more quick/clean/pristine. It seems to have more upper midrange going on, but that could be due in part to the AE having less lower mids than the HD. The high end is fairly similar.
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How would you define the weight issue Tom? Is the form factor a help?
 
#59
Snoopygore71 said:
How would you define the weight issue Tom? Is the form factor a help?
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Unless you have been spoiled by a lightweight neo cab that also has a great form factor (like, say the AE212), my guess is that most players are going to be pretty happy with the HD212. The handle placement allows you to hold it in a position where you arms should be naturally stronger, and there is nothing at all cumbersome about the form factor. As far as the weight goes, if you use a cart, and all you have to do is heft it into position, I can't see how it would be a problem. If you carry your cab for blocks without a cart, then my guess is that even an AE212 isn't going to do the trick for you.

Like I said before, lift with your legs, and we're all going to be just fine. :cool:
 
#60
tombowlus said:
Unless you have been spoiled by a lightweight neo cab that also has a great form factor (like, say the AE212), my guess is that most players are going to be pretty happy with the HD212. The handle placement allows you to hold it in a position where you arms should be naturally stronger, and there is nothing at all cumbersome about the form factor. As far as the weight goes, if you use a cart, and all you have to do is heft it into position, I can't see how it would be a problem. If you carry your cab for blocks without a cart, then my guess is that even an AE212 isn't going to do the trick for you.

Like I said before, lift with your legs, and we're all going to be just fine. :cool:
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I've been spoilt by a AE212 and have a cart :D. Have a HT112Er as well and interested to see if this a double of the HT112ER.

Cheers

Steve
 

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