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New Bergantino Neo Line; Pt. 2

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What a about a Tecamp Puma 900???

You know....I forgot about that..I had a 500 and thought it sounded awesome. Of course it was moved due to gas. I'm trying to make myself gas free for a while, so this next purchase is going to be it for a while. And I know we all say that, but I'm serious. I'm stripping everything down and just working on improving my mediocre playing. I've found I get so wrapped up with gear, looking for it, just having too much, it's just a distraction for me personally. I have one cab I love, I just want one good head I like to use with it, I just don't need anything else right now . That's one of the reasons I've been leaning towards the MBBB. Not gonna break the bank, and I loved my LMII, similar so I've heard. If all I'm going to be doing is taking lessons and practicing my ass off, I don't NEED to spend over a grand. Could I? Of course I could. I'm trying to use common sense and sensible planning for once instead of relying on my spontinaity, impulsiveness, and gluttony. :D
 
Nice. Just FYI, the M9/M6 is brutally bright up top. Make sure to experiment with turning down the treble on the amp (significantly), along with dialing down the top end a bit with the graphic, and turning that magnificent tweeter/crossover back up.

There is a very nice Bergantino cover available that I would recommend. A bit pricey, but VERY high quality. You could save a few bucks by having either Tuki or LeCover make a padded cover for you (just make sure to send in exact measurements). My guess is that one of these companies makes the Berg covers (and hence will suggest the Berg cover when you talk with them).

Finally, many small fold up carts available that would work well for you with that cab.
I called LeCover, and they make the Berg covers. They told me that I had to go through Jim Bergantino.
 
What a about a Tecamp Puma 900???

I don't have the Puma, but I do have the TecAmp Black Jag 900. I used it last night with two CN 112's, and it is a great combination. Bass Players in the audience complimented me all night about my tone. They described it as fat, authoritative, punchy, the notes were meaty...I
never had the master past 9:00, and they said that they could feel the pressure hitting them in their chest. They also said that my tone was also clean, but not sterile. I stacked them vertically, horizontally places the tweeters at your ankles and knees. I wish the feet were on the other side of the cab. Very pleased with their performance. The cabs never farted. I played smooth jazz, so I stayed in the low B range all night, and I never felt that the cabs had difficulty producing those notes. Last night I played my MTD AG 5.
 
We’re still in the ‘getting to know each other’ phase. This spot on the floor in this room is where I do all my listening tests. It’s where all cabs sound best and gives me a frame of reference. At this point it doesn’t knock me out like it has some others on the forum but I reckon it will be a keeper. I was expecting the deep bass to be a bit reticent until broken in but it seems pretty full. (That's a good thing). And the cab has less than an hour on it as of this posting. Life changes when your mother-in-law lives with you (and just got out of the hospital).

Tonight it will get its first workout as my band is beginning a series of rehearsals after a nearly two year hiatus. I’ve tried my Eden WT400 and Aguilar TH500 with it and like the results but it was purchased with the Streamliner in mind. Hopefully I will find some synergy between the two. We will see. :)

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COOL rig man! I bet the CN sounds great with fretless bass!

I've got about 12 hrs logged on mine... LOVE it. Check out the definition of this fantastic cab:


Main Entry: C212  [see-en-too-twelv]
Part of Speech: noun
Definition: amazing
Synonyms: alarming, astonishing, awe-inspiring, awful, beautiful, breathtaking, daunting, dreadful, exalted, fearful, fearsome, formidable, frantic, frightening, grand, hairy*, horrible, horrifying, imposing, impressive, intimidating, magnificent, majestic, mean, mind-blowing*, moving, nervous, overwhelming, real gone, shocking, something else, striking, stunning, stupefying, terrible, terrifying, wonderful, wondrous, zero cool

Antonyms: unamazing

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Ken, is this basically just adding a hint of mid scoop? Can't remember what that particular MB filter does.

At that setting, a very slight boost at around 30hz, slight cut around 400 hz, slight boost way up top at 10K. I actually dig it flat, but that setting gets the cab somewhat close to the AE212 with the F500 set flat (that has been my primary gigging rig for a couple years prior to the getting the Aguilar and now the CN212), and that is a very nice tone with a J. Big down low, nice sparkle, plenty of mid mids and upper mids!

Edit: Nice thing about the CN212 with the Markbass heads is you don't need a low mid boost to fatten it up. Per Tom's comments, I bet that Big Bang sounds awesome with this cab.
 
At that setting, a very slight boost at around 30hz, slight cut around 400 hz, slight boost way up top at 10K. I actually dig it flat, but that setting gets the cab somewhat close to the AE212 with the F500 set flat (that has been my primary gigging rig for a couple years prior to the getting the Aguilar and now the CN212), and that is a very nice tone with a J. Big down low, nice sparkle, plenty of mid mids and upper mids!

Edit: Nice thing about the CN212 with the Markbass heads is you don't need a low mid boost to fatten it up. Per Tom's comments, I bet that Big Bang sounds awesome with this cab.

So you are not using a high pass filter to kick out anything below 40hz, which seems to be common here for speakers smaller than 15"? I guess at moderate volume and practicing it is not a problem but in a live rock band mix maybe I will still need to. Cannot wait to find out for myself - my CN212 has been longing for a head with more than 100 watts and my M9 finally arrives tomorrow!
 
So you are not using a high pass filter to kick out anything below 40hz, which seems to be common here for speakers smaller than 15"? I guess at moderate volume and practicing it is not a problem but in a live rock band mix maybe I will still need to. Cannot wait to find out for myself - my CN212 has been longing for a head with more than 100 watts and my M9 finally arrives tomorrow!

Next to 'upper midrange dispersion', IMO, the need for external hi passing is the most overdiscussed, overhyped thing on this board. First, it would have NOTHING to do with cone size... that means nothing these days.

There are a few heads that are very 'unruly' down low (Mesa M6/M9, the older EA iAmps, the early SWR amps) where there seems to be a lot of useless sub 30hz stuff coming out of the amp. A hi pass can be very useful there.

A variable hi pass like the FDeck unit (I have one) is also very nice if you want to change the low end vibe of a cab to a tighter, more sealed sort of thing.

With Genz heads, Markbass heads, etc, there is very nice control of the sub-bass, and even the 'bass boost' stuff like the VPF is controlled nicely way down low (seems to impact that 'mid 30's' region).

IMO and IME. An external hi pass won't do any harm, and in some cases (very small cab with high tuning or a head with poor control of the sub-bass), it can result in a bit better performance and a bit of speaker protection. With a cab like the CN212, unless you have a really problematic head, no need!
 
Next to 'upper midrange dispersion', IMO, the need for external hi passing is the most overdiscussed, overhyped thing on this board. First, it would have NOTHING to do with cone size... that means nothing these days.

There are a few heads that are very 'unruly' down low (Mesa M6/M9, the older EA iAmps, the early SWR amps) where there seems to be a lot of useless sub 30hz stuff coming out of the amp. A hi pass can be very useful there.

A variable hi pass like the FDeck unit (I have one) is also very nice if you want to change the low end vibe of a cab to a tighter, more sealed sort of thing.

With Genz heads, Markbass heads, etc, there is very nice control of the sub-bass, and even the 'bass boost' stuff like the VPF is controlled nicely way down low (seems to impact that 'mid 30's' region).

IMO and IME. An external hi pass won't do any harm, and in some cases (very small cab with high tuning or a head with poor control of the sub-bass), it can result in a bit better performance and a bit of speaker protection. With a cab like the CN212, unless you have a really problematic head, no need!

I have a Ashly SC40 pre with PEQ I am going to try as it has been pretty transparent in the past. When I get tired of carrying the SC40 I will either get a fdeck or just sell my M9. ;) Thanks for the reply
 
I have a Ashly SC40 pre with PEQ I am going to try as it has been pretty transparent in the past. When I get tired of carrying the SC40 I will either get a fdeck or just sell my M9. ;) Thanks for the reply

Sorry, didn't see you had an M9. Yes, the FDeck is a MUST with that head and most cabs. That is one of the heads that REALLY benefits from a nice cut at 35hz (the lowest setting of the FDeck). You won't really hear anything different, but the cones will stop jumping so much.
 
Sorry, didn't see you had an M9. Yes, the FDeck is a MUST with that head and most cabs. That is one of the heads that REALLY benefits from a nice cut at 35hz (the lowest setting of the FDeck). You won't really hear anything different, but the cones will stop jumping so much.

Yep, seems to be the way to go. I was hoping the PEQ would do the job but I it's not really a high pas filter, is it, because just cutting at 35hz is not the same.

Edit: HPF from fdeck ordered
 
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