Don't hold me to the settings on the last pic. I was just seeing what the cab can do at various settings. So many great sounds in that TH500!
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New Bergantino Neo Line; Pt. 2
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Don't hold me to the settings on the last pic. I was just seeing what the cab can do at various settings. So many great sounds in that TH500!
Smart! That was my thinking too. Better to have it and not need it, than to Not have it ...and NEED it. (i.e. 2x12's will always work well) ..and the CN212 is a very easy schlep with Huge performance if called upon.
Doug Parent
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Me three. I find the CN212 is as light as ONE Aguilar GS112 I used to haul around in the day.
The CN212 seemed laughably light to me.
I used to keep an SWR Woringman's 12 around for small gigs.
The CN212 is a little bigger, but very substantially lighter and easier to transport than that old tiny combo box.
And, no offence, but 112 boxes just look funny to me, like a Smart Car or something.
I used to keep an SWR Woringman's 12 around for small gigs.
The CN212 is a little bigger, but very substantially lighter and easier to transport than that old tiny combo box.
And, no offence, but 112 boxes just look funny to me, like a Smart Car or something.
Yup. This cab is the real deal. I could throw out a bunch of adjectives, but the best thing I can say is that it made myself and my band mates better. The concise and articulate tone helped everybody lock in tighter... All while having a nice pillow under everything. This is a great tool for grabbing everybody's ear and saying "hey, keep it right here." It's not a volume thing either even though there can be plenty of that on tap. It's just that everything is there and accounted for and you can dictate what you want to come out. Absolutely outstanding piece of gear and I cannot recommend this highly enough. I'm sold after one rehearsal in a large space. I'm looking forward to getting more familiar with it, but its obviously a winner.
Lol. A funny analogy, but kinda true! Definitely looked a little funny, compared to the bigger cabinets I'm used to. I "downsized" from an Avatar B210/B212 Neo stack to a pair of the CN112s and admit to having been a little worried about volume. However, I took only one cab to my funk band rehearsal last night, just to experiment...
I think I still need to get these cabs broken in, and my single CN112/Shuttle 6 setup still didn't even break a sweat last night keeping up with an 11-piece band rehearsal. I will say that we're all pretty decent at keeping volume in check, but with a 5-piece horn section, there's just naturally some volume to contend with. I didn't even feel like I was pushing that cab at all and it sounded great!
5sg.
Real deal for sure. I'm a big fan.
I've spent a while with this cab now, and have to say I'm really impressed. I've gigged it with a Tfunk head, TH350, and a vintage bassman 100. Also tried it at the house with a few other amps. GAS killer? I think it might be. I am coming from using an Aguilar DB212, which is a fine cab, but I think I like the Berg better.
I definitely say the CN212 and DB212 are in the same family, but there are some noticeable differences. To my ears, the CN has a little more overall volume - that is, it's louder with the same amp, same settings. The CN is a little more muscular, or beefy, or robust than the DB cab. The DB is no slouch, but the CN just sounds more solid all over. The DB cab, to my ears, had a kind of upper mid range thing that was a major part of its voice. Not in a bad way. It really cut thru a mix,,, but the CN's curve seems much more flat to me. I think the CN has a bit more going on down low than the DB. A slightly stronger low mid voice maybe. More punch, and it just kind of fills the bottom out better than the DB. I also think the top end of the CN is a little more sweet and mellow than the DB cab. (note, that when I say top end, I am probably talking about upper mid-range. I generally don't use the tweet). This has to do with that upper mid thing in the DB cab maybe. Upper notes on the CN cab seem to be there, without even hinting at harshness, and they still have the lower harmonics to make them sound full and deep. The CN just seems to sound confident.
The DB cab is one of the nicest cabs I have ever played, and Aguilar does a FINE job with the cab aesthetics... but overall the CN is the winner in my book. CN took a gig or two to open up, and on the first gig I was a little worried. It sounded a little choked, but once it opened up... dang. I think the Aguilar is prices just a little bit higher, but can be had for just a little bit cheaper. Overall,, Sound + weight = a big win for the CN.
I've spent a while with this cab now, and have to say I'm really impressed. I've gigged it with a Tfunk head, TH350, and a vintage bassman 100. Also tried it at the house with a few other amps. GAS killer? I think it might be. I am coming from using an Aguilar DB212, which is a fine cab, but I think I like the Berg better.
I definitely say the CN212 and DB212 are in the same family, but there are some noticeable differences. To my ears, the CN has a little more overall volume - that is, it's louder with the same amp, same settings. The CN is a little more muscular, or beefy, or robust than the DB cab. The DB is no slouch, but the CN just sounds more solid all over. The DB cab, to my ears, had a kind of upper mid range thing that was a major part of its voice. Not in a bad way. It really cut thru a mix,,, but the CN's curve seems much more flat to me. I think the CN has a bit more going on down low than the DB. A slightly stronger low mid voice maybe. More punch, and it just kind of fills the bottom out better than the DB. I also think the top end of the CN is a little more sweet and mellow than the DB cab. (note, that when I say top end, I am probably talking about upper mid-range. I generally don't use the tweet). This has to do with that upper mid thing in the DB cab maybe. Upper notes on the CN cab seem to be there, without even hinting at harshness, and they still have the lower harmonics to make them sound full and deep. The CN just seems to sound confident.
The DB cab is one of the nicest cabs I have ever played, and Aguilar does a FINE job with the cab aesthetics... but overall the CN is the winner in my book. CN took a gig or two to open up, and on the first gig I was a little worried. It sounded a little choked, but once it opened up... dang. I think the Aguilar is prices just a little bit higher, but can be had for just a little bit cheaper. Overall,, Sound + weight = a big win for the CN.
Doug Parent
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Just wondering what the overall consensus is for break in on these drivers that Jim is using in the CN series? I've done a number of low volume gigs but really nothing where I was really pushing it. One or two gigs? 10? Just curious.
One gig at the most. Surrounds just need to loosen up a bit... takes a few hours for 90% of the effect to hit IME.
Agreed, after my first gig, the next gig with my CN212 was like; WOW! This is Reeeeeaaaalllly GOOD now!
Doug Parent
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Apologizing in advance for this derail but I respect your guys experience and input. Any comments as to the differences between a GK 410 and Berg AE410? I would think the voicing would be similar.
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