New Dingwall John Taylor Signature

[Gluvhand]

maybe I missed this but what exactly will the Neve preamp do that other preamps won't do?

More importantly, will it help me grow a better mullet?

The Nagel-esqe design of the pink bass is very nice. The other colors that flash in the JT Dingwall video are equally visually beautiful. I'm not sure if the bass is really something worth purchasing unless you're a fan of either him or Dingwall but I'm certain you can get your 80s fix with the visually stunning guitar.

I'd say the bass is sorta mixing the sounds of the sb 1000 and the visuals and drop d of the Kubicki.

It does seem hard to visualize paunchy 50+ year olds prancing around a stage with a pink guitar as the price puts the instrument in the realm of those financially secure.

I get your point but it's not pink. It's red. In name and to my eyes. Or not.

 

[singlemalt]

You just need to have your leather pants let out a bit.

 

[sleddogn]

i'd rock it in Rio or anywhere for that matter, lol

 

[ModuMan]

Since the cool Cranberry Pearl (it is!) is not going to be available in the future I am pretty much only looking at the black one I guess.

That said, if the bridge and the pre-amp are going to be available on combustions in the future... I really dig the 12th fret inlay but it's going to come down to how much the later production runs of the JT are.

 

[rumblinbass]

Finally the eq is the thing that has piqued many interest but if the lows are set at 20Hz that feels really too low

I wouldn't get too wrapped up in that.
There is no standard way of spec'ing or describing shelving eq's. I have seen them spec'ed at the frequency at which it reaches max boost/cut level, 1dB down from max boost/cut, 3dB down from max boost/cut, and half of max boost/cut. I have even seen them spec'ed differently in the same EQ.

 

[silky smoove]

Finally the eq is the thing that has piqued many interest but if the lows are set at 20Hz that feels really too low

Much like the Glockenklang's treble pot being set at 18khz but still providing a useful high frequency boost, I'm guessing the Neve's bass pot being set at 20hz will still provide a useful low frequency boost or cut. I've not confirmed my Glockenklang, and I'm just speculating on the Neve, but I'm guessing, given the frequencies involved, that these are not your typical shelving filter. Instead they're likely a peaking filter with a low Q value (i.e. they're very wide about the center frequency) that reaches to either side of the band pretty effectively.

 

[MingusBass]

Just a clownish money grab when John Taylor's been playing Dingwalls for the last few years

Yes, let's make a fuschia pink, fanned fret, signature bass for a bass player's bass player, whose band's popularity peaked in the 1980s. But we'll only make 82! What a clownish money grab where they limit the amount of money they could make.

 

[krispn]

My Basswitch ‘Bass’ freq is set at 33Hz (I think) and it’s perfectly functional - just interested to hear how the RND guys have applied their take on a bass eq. I’m confident they have a better vision than I when it comes to designing such a unit.

 

[Les Fret]

Having a 4 string Dingwall is kinda like eating diet Oreo's.

And the pinstripe isn't straight. It would bug my OCD.

I hear what you are saying. Fanned frets on a four string bass makes less sense (to me anyway). But the bass looks great.

 

[Lowendtech]

I hear what you are saying. Fanned frets on a four string bass makes less sense (to me anyway). But the bass looks great.

So if you don’t need a B string, the concept of the physical aspect of fanned frets no longer applies? Asking for a friend.

 

[singlemalt]

All my five string Dingwall basses ended up strung E-C.

 

[Les Fret]

So if you don’t need a B string, the concept of the physical aspect of fanned frets no longer applies? Asking for a friend.

On a normal fretted 4 string the E string has enough tension. So you don’t really need a 36 or 37. With a B string or high C string it’s different, then the scale difference has more benefits. B strings are usually too loose and high C strings too tight. That ‘problem’ is solved with fanned frets.

 

[Ethereal Thorn]

Nonsense

Perfect for drop C tuning or even tuning Bead

 

[Ethereal Thorn]

Waiting for the one-piece bridge to be released for the combustions/ng’s. This brings me hope.

I can’t wait to judge what the neve preamp sounds like through my iPhone speakers.

I agree I hate the current bridges on the combustion and Ng series

 

[krispn]

On a normal fretted 4 string the E string has enough tension. So you don’t really need a 36 or 37. With a B string or high C string it’s different, then the scale difference has more benefits. B strings are usually too loose and high C strings too tight. That ‘problem’ is solved with fanned frets.

I think multi scale is about evenness across all strings and not just about a B string. I had a Super P and all the strings felt easier to play across the entire fret board. Now that’s the a combination of mandolin frets etc but the tension of each string also felt great. I’m not saying it’s better or worse than a standard 4 string but there was an ease to playing which made the whole experience feel delightful.

Whether you benefit from a multi scale 4 string I don’t know but they’re certainly fun and easy to play.

 

[silky smoove]

On a normal fretted 4 string the E string has enough tension.

Sure, but the rest of the strings do bizarre things like the typical higher tension D string. Balance across the strings is the goal, not just tension on the lowest pitch.

 

[Lowendtech]

On a normal fretted 4 string the E string has enough tension. So you don’t really need a 36 or 37. With a B string or high C string it’s different, then the scale difference has more benefits. B strings are usually too loose and high C strings too tight. That ‘problem’ is solved with fanned frets.

But it applies to all the strings. Not just the ones on either side of the fretboard. Yes, they may receive the greatest individual benefit, but they aren’t the only ones affected.
Along with the optimized tension across all the strings, I’ve never met a four string DW that had a single dead spot or wolf tone anywhere, on any neck. Whereas, on a parallel fretted neck, there is almost always one somewhere (to varying degrees depending on manufacturer skill) that’s usually very annoying (to me anyway).

 

[Les Fret]

But it applies to all the strings. Not just the ones on either side of the fretboard. Yes, they may receive the greatest individual benefit, but they aren’t the only ones affected.
Along with the optimized tension across all the strings, I’ve never met a four string DW that had a single dead spot or wolf tone anywhere, on any neck. Whereas, on a parallel fretted neck, there is almost always one somewhere (to varying degrees depending on manufacturer skill) that’s usually very annoying.

Yes I know, But it has the most effect on the B and high C strings. Personally I don't have any problem with normal fretted four strings, so for me the disadvantages of fanned frets don't outweigh the (smaller) advantages on a four string. But each his own of course...

 

[BassDudeSA]

I think it’s great to see these limited models even though we’re now in the era of the flip market and these models become quite hard to get. My understanding is that they all sold out because they went to dealers rather than private buyers. Bass Direct in the U.K. had 10 but I now believe they’re all provisionally sold.

I was lucky enough to get one (pre-sale). For those mad that they never even saw before it was too late, well Duran Duran had been pumping these on Facebook and Instagram (probably elsewhere too) for about two weeks prior, announcing the exact date they would be put on sale (April 13th). With that said, somehow the sale went live the day before catching some people off guard, though there was an announcement on FB and Insta saying that they were now on sale. Funny thing though, another member of my band is also a bass player and he was ready to buy one too, and while he was checking out the specs I put in my order and got one. Literally minutes later when he was ready to buy one they were sold out. I have no idea how they rationed these out, but certainly some went straight to authorized dealers and some went up to the general public where I bought mine.

As for me, I've been a huge JT fan for decades and will be seeing him again May 31st here in Seattle. I've never owned an Aria, though I regularly play my US Peavey Cirrus 4-string with my band. Looking forward to sometime between July and September when these are being shipped out! This will be my first Dingwall.

 

[zuma]

Thanks for sharing @BassDudeSA , I didn't realize they weren't shipping til much later.