Thanks for the explain.
I will try and compare the EHB 1005ms and SRMS805 myself after lockdown period.
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Thanks for the explain.
I will try and compare the EHB 1005ms and SRMS805 myself after lockdown period.
Now you've just successfully made me think of getting a pair of Bartolini P46CBC, which would brighten up the 1005MS darker sounds due to the chambered body.
I have both basses. Made a video comparing them and will be doing a follow up video hopefully sometime this week with more sound clips of both
. Afterwards, going to swap out the pickups on the 1005MS for some Aguilar DCB-D4's in another video and compare the sounds there.
Whether or not chambering alters the overall tone in a noticeable way could be it's own thread. In the EHB's case the goal of chambering seems to be reducing weight and not purposefully imparting a different tone.
Are the EHB 1005's BH2 pickups wired in series, while the BH2 on the SRMS 805 are wired in parallel ?
When playing my EHB unplugged, I can hear the added sound from the chamber which is more-or-less similar to the sound that comes out of the f-hole when I play my Ibanez SRH505 semi-hollow body unplugged. The added sound is definitely not heard when I play my solid body basses. Although, I'm not sure whether the added sound could actually be captured by the magnetic pickups as it is can be captured by under saddles piezo on the SRH.
I heard that the pickup shape in the EHB1005s is is the same as the fanned fret BH2s. Does anyone have the pickup measurements for the BH2 pickups used in the EHB1005 straight fret model?
Also, in some of the 1005 pics the pickups look slightly off center with the strings. (More pickup sticking out on the G string side.) This would matter if swapping the pickups out for ones with pole pieces. Can anyone confirm or deny how centered the pickups are with the strings?
Also, in some of the 1005 pics the pickups look slightly off center with the strings. (More pickup sticking out on the G string side.) This would matter if swapping the pickups out for ones with pole pieces. Can anyone confirm or deny how centered the pickups are with the strings?
I don't have first hand measurement, but usually, the Bartolini BH2 pickups Ibanez puts on for its 5 string parallel fret models, are the ones with the size of Bartolini MK pickups (which are replaceable with Bartolini P2 size pickups).
For anyone interested, I talked to nordstrand rep today who said the zen blade model in six string is p4 shaped and will drop in to 1005ms.
That is what I thought but then was told that a P4 shape would be the closest drop in for an EHB1005 parallel fret model (with a small gap on the sides). Just trying to get confirmation of that from someone who can actually measure the pickups. I am thinking about ordering the bass but want to be really really sure that I can swap out those pickups for some big splits. I have barts in a couple of basses and I am finding that they are not my flavor. The big splits in the 1505 sound amazing in every clip I have heard.
These chambers probably won't alter the sound in a way that it's clearly audible. That said, my EHB1500 sounds more 'organic' and 'resonant' then my SR1200-VNF that sports Nordstrand Big Singles.
Probably the person who told you about the P4 shape was either generalizing or confused between parallel fret EHB1005 and fanned fret / multi-scale EHB1005MS.
Heads up, no affiliation - hopefully this means Sweetwater is getting theirs soon:
Ibanez EHB1505MS 5-String Tropical Seafloor Flat Headless Multiscale Bass w/ GigBag + Free Ship (73) | C&M Music Center - Kenner | Reverb
Ibanez EHB1505MS 5-String Tropical Seafloor Flat Headless Multiscale Bass w/ GigBag + Free Ship (73) | C&M Music Center - Kenner | Reverb
Got this email this morning 05/12/2020 7:04am PST
Hey ,
Got your message about the Bass! You are second in line actually, we just haven't gotten any of them yet. All the virus stuff is slowing down the release date of a lot of new products.
Nick Kochanek
Sales Engineer
Sweetwater Sound Inc.
5501 U.S. Hwy 30 W
Fort Wayne, IN
www.sweetwater.com
Call or text me at:
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Hey ,
Got your message about the Bass! You are second in line actually, we just haven't gotten any of them yet. All the virus stuff is slowing down the release date of a lot of new products.
Nick Kochanek
Sales Engineer
Sweetwater Sound Inc.
5501 U.S. Hwy 30 W
Fort Wayne, IN
www.sweetwater.com
Call or text me at:
(260) 247-6851
I did a similar thing replacing the Bart BH2 with Nord Zen Blades in my Ibanez SRMS805 and was quite pleased with the tonal improvement.
From various examples I've seen/heard, adding chambering to a body will give it a fuller, more resonant tone with stronger fundamentals. The more space you add to the chambering (including making the body deeper to create more space), the more pronouced the effect will be. We can hear this in the same line of guitars/basses that has model variants based on how much space there is in the chambered semi-hollow body, such as Rob Allen's Deep model vs the MB-2 and Mouse models. But the wood used will impart its tone too so you can either add more, attack, punch, and definition to balance out the tone, or soften and warm it up even more.
In the case of the EHB series, I'm pretty sure making the weight lighter was the main reason for the chambering, and then they picked woods and pickups that would balance out the tone. But in the case of the EHB100X line, perhaps they erred on the side of making it too warm.
