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New mesa subway amps and cabs!

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Bass player friend of mine sat in giving me a chance to sit out in the crowd about 25-30 feet away. WD800/Subway 212. Without PA support that little Subway 212 filled the entire area with defined punchy thick low end that was crystal clear. At first I thought the bass was still in the PA, but the guy on the board took it out. That was a lot of bass guitar on the dance floor. I'm finding that I can push this cabinet harder than my previous 212 cab ("B") and it retains it's composure. I'm sure the 215 would be deeper and louder, and I was considering the 215 for awhile, but so far I've had zero issues with this little bomb. It sounds bigger than it looks.
 
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Das Jugghead said:
Not to draw this thread off-topic but would you mind telling us what stand you are using and how you like it? I'm an absolute believer in elevating my cabinets but haven't found anything I trust so far. I built a wood stand to hold my cabinets but it is bulky and heavy.

Many thanks in advance!
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The stand I have is linked below. It is very sturdy but when I first set it up it would rattle at certain frequencies (go figure ;)) due to the play in the adjustable legs. I wrapped ~ 3 layers of duct tape around the end of each inner leg (the end that goes inside the outer leg) and that took care of that problem while still allowing the legs to slide. Since making that modification I am very happy with that stand, which is ~ 13 lbs and folds down relatively compactly into a T-shape.

FWIW the wooden rack on top is a custom unit that was originally built to sit on a Hartke 410. I stuck the mat under that just so it is snug on top of the narrower GK cab. It holds two basses and two beverages :thumbsup:

Quik-Lok WS540 Heavy Duty T Stand:
https://www.musiciansfriend.com/acc...duty-t-stand/450089000000000?source=3TEM5KTBK
 
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agedhorse said:
I provided information on rack shelf mounting of the amp. It's been done with success by several players.
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Andy, I have looked through this massive thread for your information on rack mounting the WD800 but with no success
I received my rack ears and my question is is it OK to use a two space rack or should I use a larger case for ventilation..
Thank you
 
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57pbass said:
Andy, I have looked through this massive thread for your information on rack mounting the WD800 but with no success
I received my rack ears and my question is is it OK to use a two space rack or should I use a larger case for ventilation..
Thank you
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The information I provided earlier was for mounting the D-800/800+ using a rack shelf.

For the WD-800, a 2 space rack is fine, a larger rack is unnecessary.
 
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sacahill42 said:
The stand I have is linked below. It is very sturdy but when I first set it up it would rattle at certain frequencies (go figure ;)) due to the play in the adjustable legs. I wrapped ~ 3 layers of duct tape around the end of each inner leg (the end that goes inside the outer leg) and that took care of that problem while still allowing the legs to slide. Since making that modification I am very happy with that stand, which is ~ 13 lbs and folds down relatively compactly into a T-shape.

FWIW the wooden rack on top is a custom unit that was originally built to sit on a Hartke 410. I stuck the mat under that just so it is snug on top of the narrower GK cab. It holds two basses and two beverages :thumbsup:

Quik-Lok WS540 Heavy Duty T Stand:
https://www.musiciansfriend.com/acc...duty-t-stand/450089000000000?source=3TEM5KTBK
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I have this same stand and I love it for lifting my 1x12 off the ground.
 
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sacahill42 said:
The stand I have is linked below. It is very sturdy but when I first set it up it would rattle at certain frequencies (go figure ;)) due to the play in the adjustable legs. I wrapped ~ 3 layers of duct tape around the end of each inner leg (the end that goes inside the outer leg) and that took care of that problem while still allowing the legs to slide. Since making that modification I am very happy with that stand, which is ~ 13 lbs and folds down relatively compactly into a T-shape.

FWIW the wooden rack on top is a custom unit that was originally built to sit on a Hartke 410. I stuck the mat under that just so it is snug on top of the narrower GK cab. It holds two basses and two beverages :thumbsup:

Quik-Lok WS540 Heavy Duty T Stand:
https://www.musiciansfriend.com/acc...duty-t-stand/450089000000000?source=3TEM5KTBK
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Thanks so much!
 
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Finally gave in and picked up a wd800. I am coming from a big block 750 which I love the sound of (gain ~ 1 o’clock, distortion off typically). Any tips on going for a similar sound with the WD? In A/b’ing the two the WD felt a little wimpy compared to the BB until I realized part of the problem was my EQ settings (forgot how a little can go a long way on Mesa EQ). Even after adjust it still wasn’t quite the thunder of the BB750. Cab is a subway 1x12, so thunder is relative (sometimes miss the 4x10 cab I was playing into before), but it still moves a lot of air for one 12inch speaker!
 
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EitherOr said:
Finally gave in and picked up a wd800. I am coming from a big block 750 which I love the sound of (gain ~ 1 o’clock, distortion off typically). Any tips on going for a similar sound with the WD? In A/b’ing the two the WD felt a little wimpy compared to the BB until I realized part of the problem was my EQ settings (forgot how a little can go a long way on Mesa EQ). Even after adjust it still wasn’t quite the thunder of the BB750. Cab is a subway 1x12, so thunder is relative (sometimes miss the 4x10 cab I was playing into before), but it still moves a lot of air for one 12inch speaker!
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The tapers on the Subway eq is quite different from the Big Block, it's more linear throughout the rotation.

Of course, respect the limitations of a single 12" cabinet, but you may find that you get what you perceive you are missing by adding just a couple of dB of boost on the first parametric band centered around 80Hz. A little bit goes a long way.

If you were comparing the WD-800 with the 112 to the BB using a 410, most of the difference is going to be cabinet driven of course.
 
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EitherOr said:
Finally gave in and picked up a wd800. I am coming from a big block 750 which I love the sound of (gain ~ 1 o’clock, distortion off typically). Any tips on going for a similar sound with the WD? In A/b’ing the two the WD felt a little wimpy compared to the BB until I realized part of the problem was my EQ settings (forgot how a little can go a long way on Mesa EQ). Even after adjust it still wasn’t quite the thunder of the BB750. Cab is a subway 1x12, so thunder is relative (sometimes miss the 4x10 cab I was playing into before), but it still moves a lot of air for one 12inch speaker!
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Thanks for tour review, or toi have the chance to compare the tehttps://www.ebay.com/itm/100-Watt-Class-D-Audio-HiFi-Amplifier-Module-100W-2-8-Ohm-4-5-26V-1559/263498421788?hash=item3d p in the same cab
agedhorse said:
The tapers on the Subway eq is quite different from the Big Block, it's more linear throughout the rotation.

Of course, respect the limitations of a single 12" cabinet, but you may find that you get what you perceive you are missing by adding just a couple of dB of boost on the first parametric band centered around 80Hz. A little bit goes a long way.

If you were comparing the WD-800 with the 112 to the BB using a 410, most of the difference is going to be cabinet driven of course.
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Thanks for your review, I have a bb750 () and I am curious of the comparaison but you should try it in the same cab if possible.:-)
 
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Alright, I will be going to Mesa Hollywood this weekend to check out the D800+ (and the WD/new cabs).

Truth be told I really suck at knob adjustments.

That’s probably why I’ve used Mesa for so long, they just sound great plug and play with very small tweaks for bass/venue. I already know that any Subway amp will cover a lot of styles as I move forward in my journey but for now I’m into a quick, punchy Mid forward tone with tight bottom end ala the M6.

Can anyone plz share settings that are in the Carbine territory? It would be deeply appreciated.

Oh and I’ll be using my SW112 & 115, nothing lacking there for sure
 
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Depends on what you consider "mid" and tight. Tweak the HPF to mess with the low end (and switch deep in and out). For the mids, add some low and high mid, then sweep the frequencies around. Pretty much a plug-and-play.

Also try the WD - different sound (comparing set flat on both). Had another gig last night, kind of a logistic pita so I'd typically use all my backup stuff that stays in the car (D800 and H1203 cab). But I've ended up taking the WD out on every gig - just sounds and reacts "right" to me. Ymmv.
 
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Thx nostatic, great way to start: setting both amps flat and listening. I’ll try the other suggestions after that and with the 800+ mess with the Brite switch, Agedhorse said I might like that a bunch.
By “mid forward and tight” I mean like a M6 Carbine, very visceral and quick. Sorry if my discriptors are a bit vague.
The M6 is a not very polite, baked in love or not tone that I myself happened to dig.
The M6 is like a half-crazy girlfriend; sure it makes for some wild nights but do you want to take her everywhere you go?
 
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